Road Cyclists: What size tire are you running?
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Road Cyclists: What size tire are you running?
So what size tire are you running? I run 700x23 @120 PSI. Just curious to find out. Yes the ride isn't as cushy as some but... I bike on well paved streets (Florida weather doesn't tear streets up with road salt like the north). Also what weight are you? 285 lbs
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Originally Posted by rickyaustin
is riding the skinnier tires as a heavier guy (250+lbs) a problem?
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If you look people will say don't go lower than 700x28 in a lot of threads. I had 700x28. I went to 700x23. I don't think they are worse. The handling on the 23s is very responsive. The problem you run into is you really don't want to run a tire higher than about 125 psi. So if you have to jack a tire up to above 125 to accommodate tire flex then you need the larger tire. The end results is whatever you feel comfortable on. You can't really go lower than 700x23 if you are 200+. That's kind of a suicide mission.
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I have about a dozen bikes, with every size of tire. But, the tire size that seems to work best on battered, broken pavement, with a heavy-ish bike and rider (I blame the bike) is a size 28mm or a size 32 mm.
A good quality size 32mm tire rides as smoothly and as fast as a size 23mm tire, yet absorbs road shock much better, has superior braking power, is safer on wet pavement, and is more stable on turns and over debris and broken pavement, gets half as many flats, and lasts twice as many miles.
A good quality size 32mm tire rides as smoothly and as fast as a size 23mm tire, yet absorbs road shock much better, has superior braking power, is safer on wet pavement, and is more stable on turns and over debris and broken pavement, gets half as many flats, and lasts twice as many miles.
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I run 25 at 100 psi. I like the ride I get from them.
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700x25 Armadillos at 125 psi. I weigh 240. The ride is decent, although not as cushy as my rigid MTB with its 2.0" knobbies at 60 psi. Still, it's good for what I do - mostly commuting on streets and paved bike paths with some cracks and potholes, but not too extreme.
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I ride Michelin Pro Race's brand exclusively. 700x23s at 120 psi, but Michelins seem to run a little wider so they are kind of close to 25s. IMO, Michelin tires rock for Clydes. I have never had issues with blowouts from my weight at 205 in competition to 258 out of competition (way out!!!). I switched to Hutchinsons briefly and was popping them left and right. Im not an abusive rider either. Never have the same issues with Michelins which I replace about every 1500 miles.
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I ride Hutchinson Top speed (came on the bike). So....
700x23 at 110-115 psi
Started riding at 260 now at 242.
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700x23 at 110-115 psi
Started riding at 260 now at 242.
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27 1/4" Forte GT2 Kevlar
90psi
275 lbs
90psi
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240 pounds, and nothing smaller than 700x32 ever again, 35mm for most riding.
. I've used tires as small as 20mm, back when I was speed-obsessed, but they're just not worth the hassle and hard ride. On 700x32 Paselas at 90-95psi, I'm no slower and a lot more comfortable. On another bike I have 700x35s at 75 psi, and they make a difference of less than a minute on a 12-mile course I ride all the time. Even that isn't consistent--the difference depends more on traffic, wind and what I had for breakfast than on the tires.
. I've used tires as small as 20mm, back when I was speed-obsessed, but they're just not worth the hassle and hard ride. On 700x32 Paselas at 90-95psi, I'm no slower and a lot more comfortable. On another bike I have 700x35s at 75 psi, and they make a difference of less than a minute on a 12-mile course I ride all the time. Even that isn't consistent--the difference depends more on traffic, wind and what I had for breakfast than on the tires.
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On my road bike, 700x25 at 120psi
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Originally Posted by Mellow Johnny
I ride Michelin Pro Race's brand exclusively. 700x23s at 120 psi, but Michelins seem to run a little wider so they are kind of close to 25s. IMO, Michelin tires rock for Clydes.....
I won't use anything else - these tires are "Da Bomb".
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I'm 218# and I ride Michelin Krylion Carbons, 700X23 at 120 psi. Very durable tire. The ride used to bother me a bit on my aluminum frame but now that I'm riding steel/carbon everthing's great.
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tires for big boyz
700x32's and looking to go to 35 or 37's.
IMHO Big men need wider tires with more air volume. Its why semi trucks have them since they carry a heavy load. Bicycles are no different. Skinny high pressure tires don't protect your expensive wheels as well as wider tires and your frame and fork are more stressed with the higher road vibes. I know alot of you guys ride skinnies and think they make you faster but you might be surprised at how little your speed is affected by going wider and how much your comfort improves, not to mention no pinch flats and fewer if any flats at all.
IMHO Big men need wider tires with more air volume. Its why semi trucks have them since they carry a heavy load. Bicycles are no different. Skinny high pressure tires don't protect your expensive wheels as well as wider tires and your frame and fork are more stressed with the higher road vibes. I know alot of you guys ride skinnies and think they make you faster but you might be surprised at how little your speed is affected by going wider and how much your comfort improves, not to mention no pinch flats and fewer if any flats at all.
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Or we might have been riding long enough to understand which tires work best for for specific applications and usage - the right tool for the job, rather than listening to old wives tales concerning what 'big men' need. Wider is NOT always the answer any more than skinny is.
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700 X 28 @ 110#
240#
I have not had any problem with the tires. They are the original I got with the bike ~ 1000 miles ago.
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I have not had any problem with the tires. They are the original I got with the bike ~ 1000 miles ago.
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Originally Posted by chipcom
Or we might have been riding long enough to understand which tires work best for for specific applications and usage - the right tool for the job, rather than listening to old wives tales concerning what 'big men' need. Wider is NOT always the answer any more than skinny is.
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^^^ I've ridden tires from 23 to 38 and in my situation, the Michelin Krylion on my road bike have been a perfect addition. On my Hybrid I rotate based on the planned ride and the known road surface. If I know I will be on plush smooth road, I will use the 28's, if the surface is a little more rough, I will put on the 32's or the 35's. I personally don't like the 38's, felt too soft to me and felt like I was having to work harder. Now if I was touring and have a heavy load, I would consider the 38's, but it would probably stay with the 35's. I think it all depends on your road surface and conditions.
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I see you feel strongly about it Charles...but your experience and the experience of others, including myself, differ. Do you really think I just chose the tire size on my road bike by picking a number out of a hat? Do you really think I would continue to ride it nearly 50 miles RT, to and from work, daily, on rough country/city roads, plus use it for centuries and doubles, if I was uncomfortable or breaking spokes or getting flats etc? Do you really think I have not tried multiple tires on multiple bikes over 40+ years and was able to decide what works and what doesn't? If we were talking about loaded touring/commuting I might agree with many of your points, but the OP is talking road bikes...not loaded touring. Clydes CAN and DO ride road bikes on skinny tires.
This is the Clydes forum, which is why I bristle when someone bandies about the same old Clyde stereotypes and superstitions as 'expert' advice. What works best for you is fine, but what works best for you may not work best for myself or others...that is the point I am trying to make - everyone's situation is different and thus require different configurations.
This is the Clydes forum, which is why I bristle when someone bandies about the same old Clyde stereotypes and superstitions as 'expert' advice. What works best for you is fine, but what works best for you may not work best for myself or others...that is the point I am trying to make - everyone's situation is different and thus require different configurations.
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Originally Posted by chipcom
I see you feel strongly about it Charles...but your experience and the experience of others, including myself, differ. Do you really think I just chose the tire size on my road bike by picking a number out of a hat? Do you really think I would continue to ride it nearly 50 miles RT, to and from work, daily, on rough country/city roads, plus use it for centuries and doubles, if I was uncomfortable or breaking spokes or getting flats etc? Do you really think I have not tried multiple tires on multiple bikes over 40+ years and was able to decide what works and what doesn't? If we were talking about loaded touring/commuting I might agree with many of your points, but the OP is talking road bikes...not loaded touring. Clydes CAN and DO ride road bikes on skinny tires.
This is the Clydes forum, which is why I bristle when someone bandies about the same old Clyde stereotypes and superstitions as 'expert' advice. What works best for you is fine, but what works best for you may not work best for myself or others...that is the point I am trying to make - everyone's situation is different and thus require different configurations.
This is the Clydes forum, which is why I bristle when someone bandies about the same old Clyde stereotypes and superstitions as 'expert' advice. What works best for you is fine, but what works best for you may not work best for myself or others...that is the point I am trying to make - everyone's situation is different and thus require different configurations.
I realize I am generalizing but I think what I am saying is correct. More experienced riders can and probably do, get away with running narrower tires and avoid some of the more common problems in doing so. My perspective when posting on the "clyde side" is that many big guys like myself might have been experienced riders back in the day as much lighter riders and are getting back into riding with that perspective. Others might have more consistant experience riding as big men and have learned how far they can push their choice of equipment and remain unaffected. The opinion I am expressing is for the benefit of the first group and for those with no experience riding, who might be saved from frustraition and lose interest, because they chose to ride equipment that is marginal for their experience level or weight. I often refer to myself as carrying a full touring load all the time, as many of my clyde pals do, whether they are 5'5" and 300 lbs. of excess chub or 6'5" and 300 lbs. of solid muscle. All that weight is simular to a fully loaded tour bike not unlike the more common average male rider weight of 180 pounds and 60 pounds of luggage. Weight is weight and tires need to support it. Just trying to help those that might benefit and perhaps cause some to explore the option of going wide, that may have dismissed it, due to racer hype and the super lightweight thinking that seems so common these days in conventional cycling circles.
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