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    My Clyde Bike Build

    Not sure if this is an interest to any of you here or not, But I'll start this and see if it gathers any traction.

    A few changes in my life has knocked me back to my old self and I am back on my bikes and
    I even have a new job in a Bike Shop after being out of Cycling now for 7 years. I am loving it
    again as I have in the past.

    This all started out with me buying a Nashbar Steel MTB Frame that came with a Free Seatpost!
    http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?c...Frames%2FBikes

    I spent a few days pouring over what parts I had in my bins, (Few except for a Brooks B-17,
    and some Platform pedals with SPD on the other side), some deals I found locally, and what
    I could buy on-line.

    So far this is what I have for the Bike Build:

    Nashbar Frame in a 21 inch Frame
    Nashbar Seat post and seat post binder
    Brooks B-17 Honey Brown Saddle (used)
    Carbon Fiber Front Fork with Disc Brake and canti drops
    Cane Creek S-3 1 1/8 Threadless Headset, Black
    Shimano LX Treking Crank set, 48/36/26T triple (2006), Black Arms
    Shimano ES71 Bottom Bracket
    Nashbar Rodeo Pedals, SPD and Platform
    Vuelta Crosser x II ATB Wheelset, with Michelin blackwalls 26x1.95

    As of 30 April 2007 this is all I have on hand and ready for my build.

    I am pondering what the rest of the bike will be like. I have aspirations that this will
    be a fast Canalpath and groomed trail ride, occasional Commuting Duty and Grand Paw
    duty at times with a Kid Back trailer.

    My vision is to have mostly a BLACK components hung on the rest of the frame.
    I have not finalized my handlebars or stem yet, but I could either go Flat bar or Road bars.

    The Frame has been fully prepped, inspected for alignment and is perfect, and the Seat
    post binder has been drilled out and a Seat Binder Allen installed. I did this to ensure the
    security of the Brooks saddle once installed. The paint quality is better than I ever expected
    for the price paid for this frame.

    Tonights project is to hang the Bottom Bracket and install the crank, as well as mocking
    up the fork and wheelset to envision what the bike will look like when it's finished.
    If I have the time, I'll take a few shots and try and upload them for you to see.

    I'll be working a deal or two with the Shop I am at to see what other "BUYS" I can get.

    After setting up a few Disc brakes over the weekend, I think I will be going with
    VID BB5's front and rear. Not sure if I'll stay with 160 MM rotors or go with slightly
    larger ones at 185 MM.

    Derailleurs will be a mix (I think). Looking at a long cage SRAM X7 in black and maybe
    an LX or Deore front Derailleur. I want to ensure that when I buy my stuff, that when
    I get to the final area of "FIT" which I will do at the shop, that only the Stem and handlebar
    election will need to be made.

    So... Is there any interest in following something like this?

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    Definitely! I have a huge itch to build up a Surly, but right now the fundage doesn't permit it. Well, the fundage DOES permit it, but the better half has stated that if I get another new bike, I had better drive it home in her new minivan .

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdinger
    I have a huge itch to build up a Surly, but right now the fundage doesn't permit it.
    I got to build one up last year & it is the best ride I've ever had...commute every day on it, a great pleasure indeed...
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    This is what I've heard! A riding buddy just built up a Karate Monkey, and he can't get off of it. It's a SS 29er MTB build, and it's a beaut. What's funny is he has some seriously HOT road bikes (Bianchi Volpe and Giro), but I think he's barely touched them since the KM was finished. Apparently it's "perfect" for him.

    Must.. resist...

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    Surly makes some nice Frames. I just didn't want to spend that much, when I needed so many parts to build it. Now 7 years ago, it wouldn't have been an issue. I had spare parts out the ying-yang. But my Son's Scout troop hit me up a few times to help out needy kids for parts and service and away went my parts!

    I should have waited and went with the 853 Tube Set Frame they have, that is what I really wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ang1sgt
    I should have waited and went with the 853 Tube Set Frame they have, that is what I really wanted.
    I'd like to get one of the 853s too. But the one you got is a great deal. I got the same model last summer and built it up as single-speed. Eventually, though, I put gears on it because I've been using it to go the grocery store and the hills are tough with two panniers filled with groceries.
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    As Promised, some Picks of the Clyde bike I am building:

    Rear Half

    Front Carbon Fiber Fork and Wheel

    The Brooks Leather Saddle

    Rear Triangle and Wheel set with LX Cassette

    Shimano LX Treking Crank

    I really like the way it's coming together. I am short of funs, so I've got to barter for a few more parts.
    The Cane Creek headset will be going on Wednesday night I hope, but I will not cut the steerer until such time as I have the final ride position just right. I intend to have a full "FIT" Session with my LBS Owner.

    I hope you enjoy these pics.

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    very nice build - you're going to love it when it's ready to ride...

    well done
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdinger
    Must.. resist...
    yes, altho resistance is futile...

    It took me over a year to save up for my Surly LHT build - right at $ 1400 bucks but it was worth the wait. BTW, I've only got 2 bikes - an 02 Giant Boulder steel MTB and the Surly so my favorite wife was understanding about my Surly obsession. And since I ride it to work every day, I've probably saved half of what it cost me in gasoline since last November.
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    WOW that's a beaut already! I'm curious about two things, the spokes and the crank! What are you using for spokes, and do you know the model # of that crankset? I'd love to replace the stocker on my Trek with one of those!

    Quote Originally Posted by ang1sgt
    As Promised, some Picks of the Clyde bike I am building:

    Rear Half

    Front Carbon Fiber Fork and Wheel

    The Brooks Leather Saddle

    Rear Triangle and Wheel set with LX Cassette

    Shimano LX Treking Crank

    I really like the way it's coming together. I am short of funs, so I've got to barter for a few more parts.
    The Cane Creek headset will be going on Wednesday night I hope, but I will not cut the steerer until such time as I have the final ride position just right. I intend to have a full "FIT" Session with my LBS Owner.

    I hope you enjoy these pics.

    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by centexwoody
    yes, altho resistance is futile...

    It took me over a year to save up for my Surly LHT build - right at $ 1400 bucks but it was worth the wait. BTW, I've only got 2 bikes - an 02 Giant Boulder steel MTB and the Surly so my favorite wife was understanding about my Surly obsession. And since I ride it to work every day, I've probably saved half of what it cost me in gasoline since last November.
    I've eyed the LHT since I started riding. It's just so.. awesome. How do you like it compared to the Cross-Check, or did you even compare? I've been lusting over a cross check as of late.. but it'll have to wait a year or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdinger
    WOW that's a beaut already! I'm curious about two things, the spokes and the crank! What are you using for spokes, and do you know the model # of that crankset? I'd love to replace the stocker on my Trek with one of those!
    Thanks for the compliments! I really do like the look and the way it's going together.

    The Crank is a 2006 MY Shimano LX FC-M572, It has slight higher gearing that a normal ATB crank and I figured that going with a MTB crank on the road and fast fire roads, this would be better than a Road crank.
    I have a Shimano ES71, 68x118 size Bottom Bracket in it which is the XT Level BB. It's so smooth!

    The wheels I bought as a set from a LBS here. I got a deal on them for about $170 complete with the Michelins tires and tubes. They are a flat bladed spoke specifically made for the rim. I talked with a few other mechanics on these new style rims and they told me they should work fine for me even at 250 lbs. The rims came with 2 sets of replacement spokes, and I'll carry those in my tool kit.

    Every single part I tried to spec out for strength vs. Price vs. the final look of the bike. So many bikes short change you on some hidden part on the bike. The crank is a perfect example. It is hard to beat the LX Cranks, and at a blow out price of $65 at Nashbar for last years crank verses $170 for this years, I figure I still made out. Might not be the new stuff, but few will notice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdinger
    How do you like it compared to the Cross-Check, or did you even compare?
    Yes, I compared them cuz I figured I would get a Cross-Check originally. But the LHT in a 62 cm will take the same large tires as the CC so I went with the slightly more relaxed frame geometry. I think the LHT in sizes smaller than a 58 or 56 won't take Fatties Fit Fine ultra-wide tires so folks who want that option will choose the CC. I only know this because another local guy rides a Cross-Check in a 48 and he said the tire width issue was what shifted him from the LHT to the CC.

    The CC also has a higher BB but in my case I didn't figure to need that on a commuter/touring bike since I've already got a steel MTB for off-road. At 6'4", 230lbs and 'fitted' for a 68 cm bike (LOL), the LHT was the biggest d**n frame I could find short of a custom and I just put a stem riser extension on it. Now it's tall enough that sometimes I think I shouldn't even bother looking it up at work because there aren't many who could manage to get on it to ride away...
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    After some careful consideration I think I am getting closer to finalizing my parts.
    I was discussing my desire for comfort the other night at the Bike Shop and I am going to be going with a small diameter MTB style bar. The one I think I want has a slight RETRO look.
    This will allow me to use a shorter stem length and a little less rise too. I'll be using a Bontrager Stem

    Like this one.

    I like the look of both products and the Bar harkens back to my first MTB with the Bullhorn Bars that it had.
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    Interesting bar, is that the one off the Trek Soho?

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    I have not seen the Soho, but you are correct in that, at least that is what the spec sheet states. It's an interesting looking bar, and that is why I've chosen it. I want folks to look at this bike and ask "WHY" did you do that. For most of the parts I do have an answer for them, some I don't! LOL!
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    Can't really tell from this angle...but it is the same.

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    Far from a bike and components expert here, but when did that ever stop me from commenting before?

    1. Great looking bike there. Love that color.
    2. My Coda has an 11-32 cassette too. The rear derailer is Shimano Deore XT. It works flawlessly and seems very positive and smooth in action.
    3. Have you considered an adjustable stem?

    Beautuful build, hope you love riding it as much as building it.
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    I'm too big for their frames. being 6'7" and wanting to get into cycling affordably is impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terrierman
    Beautuful build, hope you love riding it as much as building it.
    This build is something that I've wanted to do for many years and I am so close to having it done that I am going nutz trying to finish it up. I am just a little short of funds, but I think I found a means to get that figured out quick. I am hoping for a first shake down run by the time I leave for Washington DC on the 14th of May. If that goes well, the bike may be coming down with me for a ride that I love doing down there, and that is the Mt Vernon Trail from Alexandria down to Mt Vernon.

    On the Adjustable Stem. I did give that a thought, but I want to minimize joints and fittings to a minimum. I will have some adjustment with the Bar due to it's design.

    The Funny thing is, that once it is done, it will be really close to the Trek SOHO except with a Chromoly frame, ATB style tires, and the Carbon Fiber Fork. If it's half the fun that I think it will be, it will be a keeper.

    I'll report to you all on it's final weight also. I am not a gram shaver. I figure it will be in the same weight as my old Trek 970 and if it is, I'll be a happy camper.

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    Not too much to report this weekend. It looks like due to family stuff going on (Mother's Day, Wife's Birthday, ect..) that I won't make my goal of getting the bike down in time for my Washington DC Trip.

    At lunch on Thursday I did get the headset pressed in and rough dimensions for cutting the steerer tube. I am still waiting before I cut it for a proper fit session with the Shop Owner.

    I worked the shop on Saturday and had another fun day. Did mostly maintenance work and a few Bike Builds. I built up a nice WSD Pilot 1.2 that I could see my Daughter riding to be sure. Of course if I buy one Adult Child a new bike, I'll have to buy them all one, and that won't happen!

    After doing my "chores" I spent part of Sunday afternoon searching for parts in the catologs at the shop. Part of me wants to wait and get the new 08 Shimano XT stuff, but I do like the New SRAM Stuff. I just have to get off my duff and just order the stuff and I think that is going to be today.

    I rode a few bikes with the parts I want on them and I know it will work for my needs. I'll be ordering I hope!

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    Nice build. I love the color. I am looking for a bike now but wont be serious untl mid summer. I might go that direction as well. I would need help. I have not built any bikes accept when i was a kid i did a ton of bmx builds. Im looking to make a fast/comfortable road/charity ride bike. Cant wait to see yours done.

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    Great job!

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    Quote Originally Posted by magoolc1
    Nice build. I love the color. I am looking for a bike now but wont be serious untl mid summer. I might go that direction as well. I would need help. I have not built any bikes accept when i was a kid i did a ton of bmx builds. Im looking to make a fast/comfortable road/charity ride bike. Cant wait to see yours done.
    If you built up a BMX, then short of a few tools, you have the basics down for building any bike. Some of the stuff you can get a shop to do for you pretty cheap. Things like the Bottom Bracket and Headset can be installed at home, but you need special tools to do it.

    It WILL be more expensive than buying a massed produced bike. Even with some of my parts that will be bought with a discount at the Shop, this bike will still be almost $700 when I am done. BUT... there will be parts in this bike that NO Bike at that price point will have in them. The headset and the Bottom Bracket are two places that many bikes are lacking in. They are also two of the parts that get a great deal of abuse on a bike for folks our size also. An XT BB and a $70 retail Headset will be many times better than the stuff they put into a bike at this price point.

    I almost pushed too hard to get this bike done this week. I was going to make some short cuts and substitutions that would have helped me meet my goals, but I would have had to go back and change things. I want to ride this puppy so bad! I need to do it right so I'll wait and do it right.

    The Color. I am VERY pleased with this color! Reminds me of my Schwinn Paramount that I had in the early 70's. This frame is a little darker, and with the wheels and fork it makes it stand out even more. The one nice thing is that once I am done, it would be very easy to swap it all over to the Nashbar Signature 853 tube MTB Frame. It's a possibility!

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    UPDATE

    Sorry for the slow progress on this. I just got back from Washington DC where I went to my Uncle's Internment at Arlington National Cemetery. A wonderful ceremony, and a bit of healing for the whole family.

    Parts were placed on order to finish off the drivetrain and I'll be checking in with the shop today to see if they are in. There are a TON of things to install and align before my first ride. Before I left I did mount the fork and a stem so I could rough in the position of the handlebars. The Cane Creek Headset is a beauty and was a cinch to install! I have the bike up in the garage now with the wheels and tires mounted. She's looking very good and the weight seems to be in line with what I thought it would be. My goal still is to have this come in at a weight less than my old Trek 970 and it seems to be on target for that.

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