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Old 06-16-07, 05:48 PM   #1
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Conditioning your sit bones..?

I was wondering if any one had any advice/strategies on conditioning your sit bones to a saddle. I have ridden on the road for several years, but this year is my first real effort to get back into road riding. I have a new Serotta that has been custom fitted. The bike and bike fit feels great, but I can get my sit bones to back to where they don't hurt after each ride.

I have tried a plethora of saddles including a Brooks Swift on a previous and ill fitting bike, so I will most likely give several saddles another try. However, my sit bones still complain. I guess the most obvious solution is to just ride more. TIA
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Old 06-16-07, 05:50 PM   #2
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more saddle time and correct fit and position....
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All of the above and it's not so much conditioning the sit bones as developing the Gluteus muscles and leg muscles. As you get stronger, you support more of your weight with your legs and use the saddle more for balance reference than support, although you do still use it.

The Brooks or other leather saddles give you a more compliant "Hammock" effect and provide a comfortable surface without padding deformation rubbing bits that aren't supposed to be rubbed or pressured. The also breathe and move air better than the synthetics and just get more comfortable with age. It sounds weird, a harder saddle being more comfortable than that cushy padded saddle, but it's true!
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Interesting topic here, so would you suggest working out the legs and glutes with weight training? Or would more seat time have the same effect?
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Interesting topic here, so would you suggest working out the legs and glutes with weight training? Or would more seat time have the same effect?
It's all about the saddle time! That develops the specific muscle groups.

As a slight off topic, a lot oc cycling develops the quads more than the adductor muscles (Back of the leg to the Glutes and this can lead to SI joint issues (Sacral region of the spine and the pelvis joining, just below the Lumbar region). Learn stretching exercises like crossing one leg behind the other and stretching in the opposite direction by side bends, equally in both sides of the body to counter this.
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Saddle time and having your wife spank you.....jk
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this can lead to SI joint issues (Sacral region of the spine and the pelvis joining, just below the Lumbar region).
That is an interesting observation. Over the years I have had ongoing issues with my SI joint and L5. I will also try being more diligent with my stretching...
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That is an interesting observation. Over the years I have had ongoing issues with my SI joint and L5. I will also try being more diligent with my stretching...
Just a little tidbit I picked up crewing RAAM last year.....it's a common issue with ultraendurance riders.
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1st ride on a new brooks b17 yesterday.......no pain.....
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After another ride tonight I am thinking that part of my problem is that my saddle is too wide. At the bottom of every stroke I seem to be hitting the back/inner part of my leg on the flare of the saddle. I had a similar experience when I tried Selle An Atomica I am currently riding a 155 Specialized Avatar - maybe it is time to try the 143.... or another saddle
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Interesting topic here, so would you suggest working out the legs and glutes with weight training? Or would more seat time have the same effect?
I think resistance training is good for almost anybody, including cyclists. Personally I train with weights and do stretches because 40 years of a sedentary lifestyle combined with my rapid weight loss has left me with little muscular development, and because as a person with scoliosis, knocked knees, and leg length discrepancy, muscles and good posture help me stabilize my spine, keep me pain-free, and prevent me from looking like Shakespeare's Richard III.
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It's all about the saddle time! That develops the specific muscle groups.

As a slight off topic, a lot oc cycling develops the quads more than the adductor muscles (Back of the leg to the Glutes and this can lead to SI joint issues (Sacral region of the spine and the pelvis joining, just below the Lumbar region). Learn stretching exercises like crossing one leg behind the other and stretching in the opposite direction by side bends, equally in both sides of the body to counter this.
And don't forget to stretch the hamstrings!
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I bought a wider seat with springs and used that for the first few months, after that I was able to switch back to the skinnier saddle no problem and no pain.
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I say try the Brooks 'Swift' again, only this time on your fitted Serotta, providing you ride 'bent over', like on a regular road bike. The Brooks 'Swift' and the 'Professional' favor a more leaned over, aggressive "in the drops" position than the B-17 or the other "B" saddles. If your riding position is more up right, or not as aggressive, like where you're bent over slightly, then by all means get the 'B-17'. If you feel the 'B-17' is too wide for your sit bones, but your riding position still favors a more upright stance, then get the "B-17 N (narrow) which cuts 30 mm off the width, but otherwise stays the same.

Like the other posters said, along with the excellent advice from (his majesty) Mr.Stormcrowe , I would say you need more saddle time to acclimate yourself. By acclimating yourself on a Brooks, then you're eliminating the expensive and time consuming waste of trying out other saddles. Once the leather on a Brooks wears in, or forms to your sit bones, the pressure of your weight will be spread out more evenly over the saddle, decreasing pressure not only in your sit bones, but in the perrenial region of your crotch. The result is a saddle that has been specifically formed for you, and the intracasies of your own personal posterior. In most cases its the saddle that ends all saddles. That, my friend, is why Brooks has a cult following worldwide.

Personally, I use a Brooks 'Pro' on my road bike, with about 8000 miles on it. Its the only saddle I've ever used where I can go on a 50 mile ride without wearing padded cycling shorts. But thats just me.
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I will give the Swift another try and see how things work out. I have a very slight drop form my saddle to handlebars and tend to have a semi aggressive stance. I may try the B17N from Wall Bike just for comparison.

Any tips for setting up the Swift? I seem to remember reading something about leveling the back of the saddle as opposed to the front....
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