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    A Noob's Dilemna... Trek 7500 or not??

    Hi all,

    This has been a great forum, especially for a Clyde like me.. 6'2", 355 originally, now down to 300 and aiming for 240 by year's end. I've always liked riding and am now ready to get a "real" bike. I've read through tons of posts here and appreciate all the wit, wisdom, and candor. I'm starting with 5-10 mile rides 3 times a week and looking to build from there. All road and ocassionally a paved trail in a Forest Preserve. I found a very nice local shop that has a Trek Multitrack 7500 for $599.00 with lifetime free checkups/service. It has Bontrager SSR Wheelset, that has very few spokes, and I'm a bit nervous about that. I've read that everybody on here recommends lots o' spokes and strong wheels for us beefier sorts of fellas, but will the SSR hold up??? The manager says its very strong and uses some sort of double spoke technology, yadda yadda yadda, but the sales guy recommended I post here to see what your experiences were. So, any help??? I'm looking to purchase this weekend and start riding!

    Also, what should I look for when I purchase the bike in terms of making sure it's "right" i.e. setup/etc? I've never purchased a bike that I didn't put together from a beat up cardboard WalMart box with Engrish instructions...

    I'm also thinking that in my backup pack I should have: CO2 for inflation, spare tube, allen wrenches/etc. Anything else you guys/gals carry as a safety?


    Thanks all, hope to see you on the trail!

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    Don't know about the bike although it sounds like a nice one. The bike shop should help you get it set up pretty good for you. They should also let you ride it around for a test drive too if you haven't yet.

    As far as carry, I carry a lot...more than needed I am sure. I have a rack trunk with side pockets and carry...a spare tube, patch kit, small pump, bike multi tool, adjustable wrench, knife, pepper spray, tire levers, a key chain sized pressure guage, keys, wallet, cell phone, and my camera. Plus 2 frame mounted water bottles.

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    I have no experience with those wheels, but my road bike has Bontrager Selects. These have the same spoke count. I have never had any problems with them, but you have 75# on me. Talk to the manager and ask what they will do if it turns out he was wrong and the wheels won't handle your weight. If he doesn't give you a satisfactory answer, look for something else. That is a good price for that bike, but not something so good you can't pass it up. A lot of people rave about the Jamis Coda

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    Instead of CO2, carry a pump. Pumps don't leak all their pressure and turn out to be empty when you need them. I'd suggest a rack trunk or some other variation rather than a backpack for comfort as well.

    Wheels, well, worst case, you'll wind up buying wheels, it seems that modern wheels are a lot stronger than I thought though! (I ride vintage stuff).
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    I was 305 when I bought my Trek 7500 last season. It served me well all year and I dropped my weight to 275. I think I put over 1000 miles on it - mostly paved / unpaved trails and some rough IL roads. No problems with spokes at all. Good bike overall - just not for long rides , but I did many 30-milers on it.

    Here is the long thread on Trek 7500 - I posted my impressions there too:
    Opinions on Trek 7x00 Hybrids anyone?

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    I have 2300+ miles on my 7300 and it is a great bike. Having started at 375, I would change the wheels and correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think the rims have eyelets, which makes the rim weaker allowing for the spoke to pull through on a weaker rim under a heavier load. The wheels that came with my bike, Alex rims, eventually had some pull through and cracks in the rim and I kept breaking spokes. I eventually bought some Bonty Race Lights when I weighed in at 335 and they were great, very strong and never had a problem with them. Really loved how they rode, but they were just not designed for the 135mm rear spacing, so I found a new set Mavic A119 36 spoke rims with Deore LX hubs on e-Bay for a steal. So far so good on them, have a little of 100 miles and no issues.

    One other thing you want to make sure of is that the front fork can be locked out when you are riding on the road. The suspension forks really suck a lot of energy out of you when riding and will dive on you when you are going up hill\bridge. I did not have the function and replaced mine with a steel fork and love it. I made small changes on my year\model to help ride quality, new saddle, seat post and fork. My longest ride was 75 miles.

    I use the CO2 and have had to use several times. I have a 80 cubic in seat pack that can carry 4 CO2 cartridges, 2 extra tubes, cell phone, tire tool and multi tools and still have some room for some extra stuff if I need to carry it. Don't typically carry all that, but it does fit. Choose the right pump for your situation, it you are going to ride on trails that might give you more opportunity for flats, then you might want to have a hybrid pump that gives you a standard pump plus a CO2 option.
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    Thanks for all the awesome input everybody! I can't wait to get my bike and get out on the road! I'll make one more pass by my shops and keep the thread updated on my next round of decision making.

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    I carry CO2 and a pump. Three cartridges and the inflator. The CO2 is WAY easier and faster. But I like the idea of a backup. Also I use the pump to start inflation getting enough air in the tube to make it easy to handle when putting the tire back on the rim.
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    So I made up my mind and will have my Trek 7500 ready for pickup on Monday morning. I've added a small computer, back rack, pump/etc. and am very excited. The stock seat is a MUST change, as my nether regions are still slightly ouchie from my 2 mile test drive yesterday. After re-reading the large seat threads on the forum, I must say I love the guy who posted about Rocky using his thingies as a speedbag... Unfortunately I know excactly how he feels. =(

    Thanks for all the advice and input. I'm excited to start riding and building up my endurance. I've found a local riding partner 1/4 mile from my house and we're both raring to go! Lots o' miles here we come!

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    Congrats!

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    Another clyde in the stable! Grats man.

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    Well, here she is: Julia. She's a Trek 7500 w/ a back rack, water bottle thingy, pump, 6i computer and about the most beautiful thing I've ever seen, except for the wife and kids, of course. I couldn't wait after I got her home and did 5 miles in 19 minutes and am geeked. I managed a max of 23.1 mph just as I passed my house (I live at the BOTTOM of the hill!) and am amazed at how nice a ride this is. I do have some soreness and will ride this way for a week or so and start making adjustments from there. Padded gloves and bike shorts are on order, as well.

    My personal goal is to ride a century within 12 months and after seeing some of the amazing stories and tesataments to human spirit here, I feel I can achieve that goal. I want to thank you all for being an inspiration and look forward to riding with you, whether on asphalt or on the internet.




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    Quote Originally Posted by billdeebs
    Well, here she is: Julia. She's a Trek 7500 w/ a back rack, water bottle thingy, pump, 6i computer and about the most beautiful thing I've ever seen, except for the wife and kids, of course. I couldn't wait after I got her home and did 5 miles in 19 minutes and am geeked. I managed a max of 23.1 mph just as I passed my house (I live at the BOTTOM of the hill!) and am amazed at how nice a ride this is. I do have some soreness and will ride this way for a week or so and start making adjustments from there. Padded gloves and bike shorts are on order, as well.

    My personal goal is to ride a century within 12 months and after seeing some of the amazing stories and tesataments to human spirit here, I feel I can achieve that goal. I want to thank you all for being an inspiration and look forward to riding with you, whether on asphalt or on the internet.




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    Congrats! I bet you will be doing a metric century long before 12 months.

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    NICE ride! The 7500 is a sweet looking ride, and just looks fast. While I grumbled at my suspension fork going uphills, man do they smooth out the road compared to the #@$!# al fork on my roadie .

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    That's a very nice looking bike, ride it in good health.
    It's all downhill from here. Except the parts that are uphill.

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    More updates!


    I've managed to complete my first 25 miles on the bike. Unfortunately it took me 4 days to do it, but only 1:45 of seat time, so I'm okay with my overall pace, I just don't have the stamina to run long yet. I must say that I've got a much better feel for using the gears to my advantage and now only use the middle front sprocket, whereas the first day I got 'er home I was mashing HARD on the big ring.. Big mistake.. My new top speed is 24.8, and was achieved in about half the distance I achieved my prior top speed.. Gearing is my friend. You guys have it all when you say cadence, less resistance, etc. Words of absolute wisdom!

    One more humorous aside: Since I've never changed a tire on a bike like this, I purchased a spare tube and asked for an instructive lesson prior to leaving the shop with my bike. My regular sales guy/wrench was out, so they gave me the summer intern... He was okay w/ technique, we got the wheel off the bike, the rubber deflated and off and then reinstalled just fine.. Then when it's time to pump the tire back up I asked for the recommended pressures and he said," Just pump it til it's hard and ride it. You'll be fine." He is 5'6', maybe 130 lbs. dripping wet. I chuckled and asked if he had actually LOOKED at me and he said, "Uhm.... Lemmie get my manager, I don't want the wheel to come off and KILL you..." Fortunately the manager there reads these forums (and will probably appreciate that I haven't named the shop yet!) and we had a very nice talk about max tire pressures and I rode away happily..

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    More updates!


    I've managed to complete my first 25 miles on the bike. Unfortunately it took me 4 days to do it, but only 1:45 of seat time, so I'm okay with my overall pace, I just don't have the stamina to run long yet. I must say that I've got a much better feel for using the gears to my advantage and now only use the middle front sprocket, whereas the first day I got 'er home I was mashing HARD on the big ring.. Big mistake.. My new top speed is 24.8, and was achieved in about half the distance I achieved my prior top speed.. Gearing is my friend. You guys have it all when you say cadence, less resistance, etc. Words of absolute wisdom!
    Riding in too high a gear is a common problem among beginners, I'm told. I've done it. I shouldn't have. Congratulations on the bike purchase, and a belated welcome to the clyde stable.

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    Nice bike. It looks exactly like my 7200, but with a different wheel set and paint job.

    Did the 12-pack rack come stock, or is that an add-on? I've got to get me one for my beer runs.
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    billdeebs,

    Welcome!

    Probably a good thing not to blow in the shop here! LOL! The youngsters in most shops just do not have the experience needed to communicate well with older people, wether it be larger frame folks or folks that have flexibility issues.

    I am surprised some of the tricks that I use at the Shop that my Manager has never seen used before! I think he learns more from me than I learn from him.

    I am glad you like the bike. I just got my wife a Trek 7000 and she is loving it. Her last single, (78 Peugeot) she never really understood about shifting gears. This one is much better for that and I see and hear her shifting.

    May I make a few suggestions?

    1) It looks like your saddle is set with the nose too high. This might be causing some pressure in areas that you don't want pressure in. Try and set it up so that your SIT bones are resting on the tail of the saddle. This will place the saddle in either a level position or just a slight downward angle while facing front.

    2) Even though a lot of bikes have a susupension seatposts, they are really not made for folks above 200 lbs. You may be better served with a regular post for now. Of course some folks sware by them so if it's working for you, by all means keep on riding!

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    Quote Originally Posted by billdeebs
    So I made up my mind and will have my Trek 7500 ready for pickup on Monday morning. I've added a small computer, back rack, pump/etc. and am very excited. The stock seat is a MUST change, as my nether regions are still slightly ouchie from my 2 mile test drive yesterday. After re-reading the large seat threads on the forum, I must say I love the guy who posted about Rocky using his thingies as a speedbag... Unfortunately I know excactly how he feels. =(

    Thanks for all the advice and input. I'm excited to start riding and building up my endurance. I've found a local riding partner 1/4 mile from my house and we're both raring to go! Lots o' miles here we come!

    John
    Ditch the suspension seatpost. Unless you like bouncing up and down each pedal stroke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Historian
    Ditch the suspension seatpost. Unless you like bouncing up and down each pedal stroke.
    I know the OEM saddle itself has some suspension built in, does the seatpost have an internal valve/spring mechanism as well? If so, then I'll order a new saddle and post to solve this correct? I've read the plethora of saddle posts and think I'll bite the bullet and go for a B-17 and see what happens. Any recommendations about a stronger seatpost? Thanks for the help!

    Today was another beautiful Chicago area day! Nice winds, cool temps, lots of clouds. I got 13 miles in today and it felt great.. A whole day of shopping at Best Buy, Target, Wal-Mart, MC Sports, and a mini-mart made it quite fun. Who needs car??? =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by billdeebs
    I know the OEM saddle itself has some suspension built in, does the seatpost have an internal valve/spring mechanism as well? If so, then I'll order a new saddle and post to solve this correct? I've read the plethora of saddle posts and think I'll bite the bullet and go for a B-17 and see what happens. Any recommendations about a stronger seatpost? Thanks for the help!

    Today was another beautiful Chicago area day! Nice winds, cool temps, lots of clouds. I got 13 miles in today and it felt great.. A whole day of shopping at Best Buy, Target, Wal-Mart, MC Sports, and a mini-mart made it quite fun. Who needs car??? =)

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    Thompson, for the win! Lighter than carbon and stronger than Limburger cheese smells in the sun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe
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    Thompson, for the win! Lighter than carbon and stronger than Limburger cheese smells in the sun!
    I must say that I love the humor here!! So now, they've got a pile of these things, how do I know if I want the straight/angled/etc? How are they mesured/fitted? Thanks again!

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    If nothing else, get the 410 mm length Mountain bike seatpost of the correct diameter. That will work whether you have standard or compact geometry.

    Get the one that has the same type saddle mount head, as far as the setback goes and you'll be fine.
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    For bike seats, in know that i wouldn't be riding like i am today, ie alot, if i wasn't lucky enough to find this bike seat:

    http://www.derri-air.com/easyseat-bicycle-seat.htm

    Spent a fair amount of money trying differnent seats, but finally found this one in a mail order catalogue, can't find it in a store anywhere, and have put it on my hybrids and MTB and no more "numbohhhhs", but don't get me wrong you will still get sore but nothing like the kind of sore/numbness you will get with the horn type seat!

    Good riding on your new bike!
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