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Old 07-05-07, 09:32 PM   #1
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Finally ordered me a Brooks!!! :)

OK....I've toyed with the idea on and off for well over a year. I finally decided to take the plunge and order a Brooks. Thanks for the kick in the booty, CliftonGK1. I ordered me a B-17 for the Trek 520.

Now...I'm looking to put the trekking bars on.

I need to do some pics to show progression as I've been making some changes (and still have more to do) on my baby.

1) Fenders
2) Paint fenders
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Welcome to the club. I have the sprung model (B-33) because my seat and handlebars are the same level. I was also leary of the small size of the B-17.
I installed fenders and flaps last year.
I really need to get rid of the grip shifters, especially in Florida where you only need 2-3 gears.
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I now have b17's on all my bikes.. I was using a team pro but found it was getting a little uncomfortable on 2+ hour rides.. I put the B17 back on and it is working like a charm..

You will love it..
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I was also leary of the small size of the B-17.
Ironically, my only fear at the moment is that the B-17 is too large. I strongly considered the B-17N.

The current saddle which isn't "bad" is smaller than the B-17 and I was first thinking to match that side. Then I read how B-17 really works for 90% of people and sometimes my seat bothers me a little. Then I thought maybe a slightly wider seat is exactly what I need.

And of course I ordered from Wallbike so I can return it within 6 months if I don't like it.
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Ironically, my only fear at the moment is that the B-17 is too large. I strongly considered the B-17N.

The current saddle which isn't "bad" is smaller than the B-17 and I was first thinking to match that side. Then I read how B-17 really works for 90% of people and sometimes my seat bothers me a little. Then I thought maybe a slightly wider seat is exactly what I need.

And of course I ordered from Wallbike so I can return it within 6 months if I don't like it.
I was worried about the width too but it turned out to be no problem at all. The saddle is incredibly comfortable already and I've only ridden it a few times; the slippery feeling takes a bit to get used to though. I should also maybe mention that I'm an ex-Clydesdale at ~190# now.
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I was worried about the width too but it turned out to be no problem at all. The saddle is incredibly comfortable already and I've only ridden it a few times; the slippery feeling takes a bit to get used to though. I should also maybe mention that I'm an ex-Clydesdale at ~190# now.
Well I know from experience that a saddle too wide is just as uncomfortable as one too small. I guess that's what worried me. My old bike (Trek Navigator 300) was ok with stock saddle. After a year my fat arse killed that saddle. I bought a new one...and got one that was slightly bigger thinking "bigger is more comfortable" and hated it. I returned it after 2 short rides and ended up replacing with a cheapo that was same size as original, and loved it!
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Welcome to the "oh crap, I'll never buy another saddle as long as I live!" Brooks Rider Club

Seriously, the B17 looks too wide, but it's heaven. If it's not heaven the first time you sit on it, it will be after some miles. I think I have around 500 on my B17, and I can't imagine riding something else.
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Do not be scared when you first see the saddle in person. It is not a torture device. It is the strangest thing in the world to be comfortable on.
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Do not be scared when you first see the saddle in person. It is not a torture device. It is the strangest thing in the world to be comfortable on.
I'm not worried anymore. In fact, I wonder why I waited so long.

No I don't....I know exactly why. I was going to take the plunge about a year ago and did some searching here on BF and found some people saying they were really uncomfortable for bigger riders.

In the last year I've seen enough bigger riders talk about them to know what was crap.
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So which model is the one to go for? The B 17? I see there is a bike shop in town that sells them, I'll have to stop by and see if they keep any in stop or just order them.
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So which model is the one to go for? The B 17? I see there is a bike shop in town that sells them, I'll have to stop by and see if they keep any in stop or just order them.
Everybody on bike forums says to order it from www.wallbike.com instead of local places. I know its great to support your local shops, but Wallbikes has a 6 month return policy so you can send it back if it just doesn't work for you. *FYI*

And yes, B-17 standard is apparently the one that is most popular and has fewest returns. But my opinion is it depends on your bike. I think a B-17 would be too skinny for my old Trek Nav300. Its a very upright position and dictates a wider seat.
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Everybody on bike forums says to order it from www.wallbikes.com instead of local places. I know its great to support your local shops, but Wallbikes has a 6 month return policy so you can send it back if it just doesn't work for you. *FYI*

And yes, B-17 standard is apparently the one that is most popular and has fewest returns. But my opinion is it depends on your bike. I think a B-17 would be too skinny for my old Trek Nav300. Its a very upright position and dictates a wider seat.

I was just on wallbike.com and came to this page and scrolled half way down and completely forgot what I was looking for...

http://www.wallbike.com/Brookssaddles.html
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I was just on wallbike.com and came to this page and scrolled half way down and completely forgot what I was looking for...

http://www.wallbike.com/Brookssaddles.html
That should tell ya how comfortable a Brooks is!
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Everybody on bike forums says to order it from www.wallbikes.com instead of local places. I know its great to support your local shops, but Wallbikes has a 6 month return policy so you can send it back if it just doesn't work for you. *FYI*

And yes, B-17 standard is apparently the one that is most popular and has fewest returns. But my opinion is it depends on your bike. I think a B-17 would be too skinny for my old Trek Nav300. Its a very upright position and dictates a wider seat.

The B-17 is a pretty wide seet, its like 170mm wide, I've used the B17 and the Team Pro, got the team on right now since I broke the tension bolt on my B17. I soaked the Team Pro in motor oil for a day or two and now its pretty nice, the the B17 is usually the more comfortable saddle. Mess around with your tilt position, I seem to like the Brooks nose down a bit more then other saddles.
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See, I look at the fancy saddles with the cutouts and gel and foam.....this one is leather and copper rivets. I just can't see how that would be comfy. Than again, if the clyde's say it's comfy, I gotta believe it.

King Termite, Please give a ride report on it when you get it. Also a little info on what saddle you were on would help =)
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See, I look at the fancy saddles with the cutouts and gel and foam.....this one is leather and copper rivets. I just can't see how that would be comfy. Than again, if the clyde's say it's comfy, I gotta believe it.

King Termite, Please give a ride report on it when you get it. Also a little info on what saddle you were on would help =)
I believe that what supposedly makes it so comfy is the fact that it's leather and will conform to your body shape kinda like a horse saddle (I suppose...never ridden horses). Think of it like a leather Tempurpedic saddle.

As far as a ride report....I understand they do take some break in time, so it may be a while before I come in here telling how fantabulous it is.
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Everybody on bike forums says to order it from www.wallbikes.com instead of local places. I know its great to support your local shops, but Wallbikes has a 6 month return policy so you can send it back if it just doesn't work for you. *FYI*

And yes, B-17 standard is apparently the one that is most popular and has fewest returns. But my opinion is it depends on your bike. I think a B-17 would be too skinny for my old Trek Nav300. Its a very upright position and dictates a wider seat.

Check you link for the wallbike.com, it points somewhere else.
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I believe that what supposedly makes it so comfy is the fact that it's leather and will conform to your body shape kinda like a horse saddle (I suppose...never ridden horses). Think of it like a leather Tempurpedic saddle.
They do begin to conform to your sit bones. I've got almost 200 miles on mine and it's getting really comfortable.

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As far as a ride report....I understand they do take some break in time, so it may be a while before I come in here telling how fantabulous it is.
I've said it before, I'll say it again. I think that us big dudes have an easier time breaking in leather saddles simply because we're putting more weight on them. Even with a few applications (top and bottom) of Proofide right when I got mine, it was still a taint-sledge until I had about 50 miles on it. Now I can go out and do 30 miles and it's at least as comfortable as any gel saddle I've had in the past.

The only issue I have is that I do need to oil the rails at the seat clamp, because it's creaking like a cheap matress if I'm bouncing around over bumpy terrain (like that north section of the Burke-Gilman trail where the tree roots are buckling the pavement.)
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Check you link for the wallbike.com, it points somewhere else.
Fixed.

It was wallbike.com, I had wallbikes.com
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The only issue I have is that I do need to oil the rails at the seat clamp, because it's creaking like a cheap matress if I'm bouncing around over bumpy terrain (like that north section of the Burke-Gilman trail where the tree roots are buckling the pavement.)
+1 I have about 100 miles on a B17 now. Still hard but getting better. But the racket this thing makes going uphill on bumps! I thought I had broken something. Guess I will try oiling the rails and see if that helps.
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The only issue I have is that I do need to oil the rails at the seat clamp, because it's creaking like a cheap mattress if I'm bouncing around...
If you think that is bad, imagine the sprung model! I went and bought some grease today because the creaking was driving me nuts.
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I'll chime in, I've had a b17 for a couple of months and I love it. it was as comfortable as anything else I've ridden right away, and now it's the best I've ridden. for me at least, the talk of break in was way over-stated. it was really no big deal.

I also looked at other models and debated but ended up with the b17 because that's what everyone recommends, and I'm glad I did. I was just over-thinking it as I tend to do. I would say go with the b17 first, and once you try it if it's not right look at the other models.

I would say, in general, there is a lot of over-thinking when it comes to the brooks.

I also have a creaking making me nuts, and i thought it was the saddle but it seems to be the suspension seatpost I'm using. if I oil the seatpost it stops, but I have to do it every ride, sometimes twice. makes me crazy.

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they have been making the b17 for over 100 years. I know why....

you can see the b17 in this catalog (look in the 1903 catalog in the heritage/ yesteryear catalog section (flash site, not sure hot to link directly))

http://www.brookssaddles.com/brooksengland.html
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Ironically, my only fear at the moment is that the B-17 is too large. I strongly considered the B-17N.

The current saddle which isn't "bad" is smaller than the B-17 and I was first thinking to match that side. Then I read how B-17 really works for 90% of people and sometimes my seat bothers me a little. Then I thought maybe a slightly wider seat is exactly what I need.

And of course I ordered from Wallbike so I can return it within 6 months if I don't like it.
My 73 Raleigh has a B17N which is very comfortable. My first purchase was a B17 standard that's working out great. I bought a B17N for my fixie/ss that was a little tough at first but is coming around.
I made the mistake of putting my old Forte (cutout in center) saddle on a Schwinn Prelude I'm building out. By the end of my 18 mile round trip commute things were numb that should not be.
I'm trying to decide on a Brooks B17 special or a professional for my Paramount. It actually has a lower bar than saddle.
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