Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Alexandria, VA
Bikes: Firefly custom Road, Ira Ryan custom road bike, Ira Ryan custom fixed gear
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you'll hear about Mavic open pros with ultegra hubs as the standard, with 36 spokes.
I had some for a bit, but had issues with them going out of true wehn i stood to climb.
Edned up with velocity deep Vs, also with ultegra hubs. In my experience, they are noticeably sturdier. I'm running 28 front and 36 rears, and had them hand-made with brass nipples.