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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 08-01-07, 09:19 PM   #1
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I think I want a hardtail, Thoughts?

Hey guys, I am looking to get back into the sport and I am leaning heavily towards a hardtail, but the catch is I would like to get something nice. I almost decided on a Kona Hoss Deluxe, but the local dealers are not very helpful, and the closest good dealer is 100 miles away. even the local dealer is about 20 miles away. So anyways I have been researching the local LBS scene and just about everyone is recommending the Specialized line of bikes. I was also fortunate to speak to the Specialized sales rep about their products. He assured me that their bike frames would be fine with my size and weight (6'0" 260) He said that the entire bike would work well, but if I as worried about it I should simply swap the wheels and everything else would be fine.

So, I am looking at the Stumpjumper Comp. I want a high end bike with high end components.I think that the parts on the Stumpy are superior to those on the Rockhoper line. I also feel that a hardtail is going to be fine for the kind of riding I will be doing.

I live at the top of a hill so I will be riding up hill on ever ride I will ever be taking. I also will be doing some off road stuff, but no major drops or any huge jumps. I will, assuming I can get enough stamina going, be heading to Tahoe with my bike to do some down hilling next year. I used to go every sumer about 15 years ago. I road it on a Hardtail back then also.

So what do you guys think. Will the Stumpy be OK for me? What else would you recommend assuming the Hoss D is out? Should I re think my no FS idea? I can get a basic SC Heckler for the same money as the stumpy, but they will have to upgrade the shock to a coil for me. Thanks to any who are willing to help.

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Old 08-01-07, 09:23 PM   #2
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I'd say a hardtail is just the ticket, unless you are getting into extreme downhilling and big air! Rear suspension just sucks up your powerstroke on the pedal and adds weight and breakable parts into the mix. I'd also suggest a rigid fork, unless you are going to be doing a lot of off road stuff.
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Old 08-01-07, 09:29 PM   #3
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I had an o5 Stumpjumper comp and the first day out I had 3 flats as the spokes lost their tension on the back wheel with my 240 lbs on them. I had the wheels retensioned and they were ok.
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Old 08-01-07, 09:34 PM   #4
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I went from a full suspension mountain bike to a 29er hard tail. I want to get a full suspension again. Hard tails are just more work over the same trails, even with BIG wheels.

If you have plenty of money, and want a hard tail. Why not look at a full suspension with a rear lockout. That way when you go to Tahoe it will be much more fun on the downhill.

A hard tail isn't too bad, until you get spoiled with that rear end soaking up all the little roots and rocks!!!
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Old 08-02-07, 12:42 AM   #5
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I have a 97 S-Works M2 frame. I've tried to ride that sucker into the ground with no luck. It's still a fantastic bike. Geometry is perfect in my opinion. Can't go wrong with the specialized hard tails. The stumpy frames they're selling now probably outclass mine by a long shot.

Make sure you get a decent front fork and prepare to kill that rear wheel once every year or so if you're riding off road.
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Old 08-02-07, 12:56 AM   #6
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I don't think you can go wrong with Specialized hardtails. If I wasn't planning to custom build my next MTB (Santa Cruz Chameleon or Ellsworth Specialist, probably), I'd be looking very seriously at the Stumpjumper Comp.

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Old 08-02-07, 06:18 AM   #7
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Stumpies are great bikes and I wish I sold them! The only recommendation I would make is to look for an upgrade to a Marzocchi fork. These have superior strength and seem to hold up much better for larger folks.

On my recent build I went with a Carbon front fork on a fixed steel frame and I love it.
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Old 08-02-07, 09:47 AM   #8
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As a full suspension to hardtail convert, I will say I love the hardtail.
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Old 08-02-07, 09:56 AM   #9
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I ride the road more than the mountains these days, but I live about a mile from the Tahoe National Forest and still get up there a few times a year. One of my mountain bikes is a 15-year-old Bridgestone that's not only a hardtail, but also has a rigid fork. It's the bike I learned on, and I still ride it about half the time. If I could keep only one MB, that would be the one--it's fun, challenging, interesting and requires some skill and effort over technical terrain. There's almost nothing to break, either. I'm sure I'm slower than I am on my full sus bike, but I'm just riding around anyway--what difference does it make?
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Old 08-02-07, 10:06 AM   #10
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I taco'd the front wheel on a Stumpjumper. They're definitely not clyde-worthy. Swap out the wheelset on most production 'racing' hardtails with something bomb-proof (32-spoke Mavic 819 + XT hubs) and you're rocking.
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Old 08-02-07, 11:14 AM   #11
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i love my Felt Q720. it is a hardtail with hydraulic disc brakes, Rocksshox Dart2 fork (with lockout), and @ under $1000, its been a great bike for me.

i don't ride hardcore offroad but i get it dirty sometimes and so far other than 1-2 flats its been a great ride.

BONUS: it's ugly and no one can read the funky Felt logo so it isnt attractive to bike theives.
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Old 08-02-07, 12:06 PM   #12
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I taco'd the front wheel on a Stumpjumper. They're definitely not clyde-worthy. Swap out the wheelset on most production 'racing' hardtails with something bomb-proof (32-spoke Mavic 819 + XT hubs) and you're rocking.
I don't know what they stock on the Stumpie these days, but 17 years ago when I bought mine, they had Specialized 26 x 1.5" double wall 32h rims.
Here it is 17 years later, and I'm only on my 2nd front wheel (replaced with a stock wheel) and my 3rd rear wheel (replaced with a 32h XC717/XT combo.)
If what you're saying is true (that the Stumpie isn't a clyde ride) then a lot has changed with it. I've not seen the light side of 225 pounds for at least 15 years, and I've beat the snot out of my Stumpjumper... It's still in great condition.
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Old 08-02-07, 02:56 PM   #13
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Stumpies are great bikes and I wish I sold them! The only recommendation I would make is to look for an upgrade to a Marzocchi fork. These have superior strength and seem to hold up much better for larger folks.

On my recent build I went with a Carbon front fork on a fixed steel frame and I love it.
I bought a Marzocchi Atom Bomb in '98. It's lasted 10 years. They're like the Thomson of suspension, very well made and Clyde friendly.

I just remembered that I have a '96 steel stumpjumper frame on ice!!! It was the last year you could get a stumpjumper in steel. That is going to be my next mtb.

Just traded my '92 Bridgestone MB5 for an old lugged Schwinn road frame of the same era.
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I have a Specialized Stumpjumper and LOVE it.
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