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    So......how many of you have discovered the joys......

    of pushing through the burn!


    It seems that as soon as I get my legs at max muscle burn after warm up, and continue to push,


    1. The burn goes away
    2. I get a massive endorphin dump and catch a high like few ever experience....better than drugs (and I know this to be true!)
    3. My legs open up, circulation wise
    4. and lastly, it seems like I can then ride forever!




    True confession time: Are you an endorphin junkie too?
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    I am! Around here it's after the first couple hill's then I'm feeling it and I could ride all night. I ride now about 15-20 miles a night, which is more then half up hill, away from the lake. Last weekend I did the Kal Haven trail the whole 35 miles and back for the first time and it felt great.

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    Either that, or I love pain!

    I get 1 through 3, but seem to miss 4. If I'm pushing hard, I only have about an hour in me before they just fall apart. Well except last sunday. I did the "leg torture" or "Roca Rollers" route, and while the first 10 miles were absolute pain, everything after that was a blast. I probably could have pulled off a century that day, even doing it on that route (3 "laps" would have done it..) after I pushed through the pain.

    There's a hill that follows a long, fast stretch of MUP on my "long way home". I always am just SPENT after blasting down 3 miles of wonderful MUP, but somehow I push on that hill every time, and every time I just love it.

    This cycling thing, it's like drugs!

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    Ben, it generally takes me 8-10 miles to just warm up the leg muscles and then I do the "Push to burn and beyond". Try that, just for grins and gigglers and see if you can hit that last stage that way!
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    It is when the legs feel like dead weight and my lungs are burning that I have problems. I think I could deal with the burn or the lungs, but both kill me. I also can't find a comfort to stand with the hand bars I am using right now. Need to put on drops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JumboRider View Post
    It is when the legs feel like dead weight and my lungs are burning that I have problems. I think I could deal with the burn or the lungs, but both kill me. I also can't find a comfort to stand with the hand bars I am using right now. Need to put on drops.
    All of this will come with time and better condition, Jumbo, I promise ya!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe View Post

    1. The burn goes away
    2. I get a massive endorphin dump and catch a high like few ever experience....better than drugs (and I know this to be true!)
    3. My legs open up, circulation wise
    4. and lastly, it seems like I can then ride forever!
    1-3: Yes, definitely.
    4: Yes, but only if I don't stop longer than 5 or 10 minutes. If I let my legs cool down, I'm doomed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe View Post
    True confession time: Are you an endorphin junkie too?
    +infinity

    Long climbs do it for me every time.
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    12,00ft of climbing, most of it in the first 74 miles of the 114. Does that count? 3 years ago, I did similar rides and felt the joy. This year I was just happy to make it! Plan on doing more big rides in 08 so I must start training. That's where the joy comes in!

    I'm the orange guy! Next year, the guy in the yellow will be Ronjon!


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    Quote Originally Posted by keithm0 View Post
    1-3: Yes, definitely.
    4: Yes, but only if I don't stop longer than 5 or 10 minutes. If I let my legs cool down, I'm doomed.
    I take a 2 or 3 minute stop and drink break every 10 miles or so and that gives me a second wind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    12,00ft of climbing, most of it in the first 74 miles of the 114. Does that count? 3 years ago, I did similar rides and felt the joy. This year I was just happy to make it! Plan on doing more big rides in 08 so I must start training. That's where the joy comes in!

    I'm the orange guy! Next year, the guy in the yellow will be Ronjon!


    I'll be on the ride, but the picture will be of me faaaaar behind you.
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    I don't know about my "maximum burn", but after I have gone about 6 miles pushing it, I suddenly feel renewed and actually resent when I have to stop riding and go to work. I don't go as far as some of you folks. . . yet, but I'm working on it. Usually between 12 and 24 miles each weekday.

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    Hi my name is Paul and I am an endorphin addict.

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    No. Pain=Stop and rest for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronjon10 View Post
    I'll be on the ride, but the picture will be of me faaaaar behind you.

    Dude, you underestimate yourself! I saw you climb up Lil GMR and you were flying. I've seen many of your comments of being a slow climber, I don't think so. Cage some of that climbing fury, pace yourself and you will be much faster overall at the end of the ride.

    3 years ago when I did my best on the Bear, I didn't sprint at all, not once. I did a nice consistent effort throughout the entire ride. I had thin racer dudes flying by me at mile 10. Yeah they were fast. I was really surprised when I flew by them at mile 40-60. Many of them were suffering while I rode by them pushing my 220 lb bod up the mtn at a nice consistent pace.

    It was a timed event listed for SERIOUS riders only. I was seriously shocked when I placed at 123 of the 400 riders. SO the guys that pass you at mile 20 look like fast climbers, but when is all said and done, who is the fast climber at the end of the ride?

    Next year I plan to do even better than 3 years ago. I'd bet you can kick azz on the rides too with some strategy. You might get passed at 40 but might pass them back at 50. I actually feel stronger at the late climbing miles. I'd bet you can do the same as we are both big engine riders!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    Dude, you underestimate yourself! I saw you climb up Lil GMR and you were flying. I've seen many of your comments of being a slow climber, I don't think so. Cage some of that climbing fury, pace yourself and you will be much faster overall at the end of the ride.

    3 years ago when I did my best on the Bear, I didn't sprint at all, not once. I did a nice consistent effort throughout the entire ride. I had thin racer dudes flying by me at mile 10. Yeah they were fast. I was really surprised when I flew by them at mile 40-60. Many of them were suffering while I rode by them pushing my 220 lb bod up the mtn at a nice consistent pace.

    It was a timed event listed for SERIOUS riders only. I was seriously shocked when I placed at 123 of the 400 riders. SO the guys that pass you at mile 20 look like fast climbers, but when is all said and done, who is the fast climber at the end of the ride?

    Next year I plan to do even better than 3 years ago. I'd bet you can kick azz on the rides too with some strategy. You might get passed at 40 but might pass them back at 50. I actually feel stronger at the late climbing miles. I'd bet you can do the same as we are both big engine riders!

    To be honest, that's why I've been doing these flat base rides. It's not only building endurance, but it's teaching me the benefit of an evenly paced ride. I'm knocking out 60-80 mile rides with moderate effort, never busting into the high heart rate zones, and finishing the rides with energy to spare, feeling great, rather than burnt out and occassionally bloodied

    Now I just need to translate these steady efforts into the hills and I'll be good to go I think.

    Thanks btw
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronjon10 View Post
    To be honest, that's why I've been doing these flat base rides. It's not only building endurance, but it's teaching me the benefit of an evenly paced ride. I'm knocking out 60-80 mile rides with moderate effort, never busting into the high heart rate zones, and finishing the rides with energy to spare, feeling great, rather than burnt out and occassionally bloodied

    Now I just need to translate these steady efforts into the hills and I'll be good to go I think.

    Thanks btw
    I met a really lean racer dude a few years back. Dude was in fabulous shape. He explained to me how he reached excellent form while riding 60 mile moderate paced rides. I thought he was joking but he never picked up the pace eventhough I knew he could smoke me. Part of the game is discipline, and he had it!

    It's good that you're a man with a plan!

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    NO PAIN NO GAIN!!!! It is a lot better once you push past!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe View Post
    True confession time: Are you an endorphin junkie too?
    yeah, I'm an endorphin junkie. I love the feeling I get when the endorphins kick in, it's amazing how good you can feel after the pain you endure .
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    I love it when I find new trails and just reach the hill and can see the rolling hills waiting for me; crisp clear open road with the breeze hitting on my face, Its just amazing.

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    It seems that as soon as I get my legs at max muscle burn after warm up, and continue to push,


    1. The burn goes away
    2. I get a massive endorphin dump and catch a high like few ever experience....better than drugs (and I know this to be true!)
    3. My legs open up, circulation wise
    4. and lastly, it seems like I can then ride forever!




    True confession time: Are you an endorphin junkie too?
    I think so. It takes me a few miles to get warmed up, too, but once I do, it seems like I can push and push and push all I want, and I can just recover in no time, no matter how big the hill.

    Although, I tried riding once this week... only I forgot that I hadn't eaten anything yet that day... I was reminded around mile 19. I'm not doing THAT again... especially since I was still six miles from home! Worst ride home ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe View Post
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    1. The burn goes away
    2. I get a massive endorphin dump and catch a high like few ever experience....better than drugs (and I know this to be true!)
    3. My legs open up, circulation wise
    4. and lastly, it seems like I can then ride forever!




    True confession time: Are you an endorphin junkie too?
    I've ridden for 7 years and never experienced that. I'm going out and try it today. I report back tonight.
    It's better to cycle through life than to drive by it.

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    Cannot believe what I am reading...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    I met a really lean racer dude a few years back. Dude was in fabulous shape. He explained to me how he reached excellent form while riding 60 mile moderate paced rides. I thought he was joking but he never picked up the pace eventhough I knew he could smoke me. Part of the game is discipline, and he had it!

    It's good that you're a man with a plan!
    The same level of stamina can be reached in much less time of what he did in whatever x amount of time doing the 60 mile runs. I bet you this, must be boring as hell to do the same deal for 60 miles. In running this is called junk miles, what a waste of time...

    Got to say it; been there, done that.

    The example of the race of landing a better place than others is totally off... A good workout routine would have landed you on a higher spot. Many factors come into play; nutrition, recovery, over-training, etc.

    No pain, no gain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazpr View Post
    The same level of stamina can be reached in much less time of what he did in whatever x amount of time doing the 60 mile runs. I bet you this, must be boring as hell to do the same deal for 60 miles. In running this is called junk miles, what a waste of time...

    Got to say it; been there, done that.

    The example of the race of landing a better place than others is totally off... A good workout routine would have landed you on a higher spot. Many factors come into play; nutrition, recovery, over-training, etc.

    No pain, no gain.
    I probably didn't explain myself correctly. I meant doing 60 mile fat burning recovery type rides mixed in with hard training rides. Alternating days on the bike. Riding one day up a mtn. 5,000ft 40 mile ride followed by a 40-60 mile flat fatburning ride is not boring at all. And hardly what I would consider junk miles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JumboRider View Post
    It is when the legs feel like dead weight and my lungs are burning that I have problems. I think I could deal with the burn or the lungs, but both kill me. I also can't find a comfort to stand with the hand bars I am using right now. Need to put on drops.
    Hurrah! JumboRider is back! Jumbo, we need an update on your riding. Terrierman, it's time for another thread about Jumbo and Big Liberty Blue.

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