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Old 08-07-07, 08:40 PM   #1
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Let's find a bike for Becky...

I like this one... what's your opinions?

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/bik/390417747.html

The C&V boys have given it the thumbs up, so far. I'm going to go look at it. It should be light. It's double butted Chromoly. It's early early 80's Japanese (I'm pretty sure).

I like it because I have a feeling it's undervalued and is probably going to be a nice bike.

Don't know what's on it, and don't know if I can put a triple on it without a lot of hassle. It would be nice for Becky to have a triple since she's having trouble with her knees.

Anyway, scout around for good Becky bikes. And then when I find a good candidate, we can all talk about what it needs to suit Becky!

Fans of modern bikes will have their chance to tell Becky why they're so much better, make some recommendations and we'll see what she thinks.

Sound like fun?

Remember, this is for a spare* bike, since hers is not doing well. But, I can't really see her doing RAGBRAI next year without a road bike... but what do I know? I've never even seen* a bike event.
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I presume you are talking about that Mixte? If so, it'd be a nice bike. A step through frame and with that double top tube design, it's be a solid bike, as well, unlike the "Womans" road bike of the 70's and 80's that were as flexible as al dente spaghetti. Kind of like a precursor to Compact Geometry.....
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No! That's too small for Becky. I was thinking of the Zebra....

You think the geometry should be more relaxed? I was under the impression that those early Japanese bikes weren't real aggressive...
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Oh! I'm not sure about Becky's height, so I just took a guess which bike you were looking at.......50/50 odds!

The Zebra will be likely a Sports/Touring geometry and pretty comfortable as well, if she needs a 58 cm frame. Depending on torso length, the Top tube may or may not be a little long though since women on average have more leg length and less torso as compared to a man. Just something to consider there.
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Yes, Tom's right, Becky. I may not be able to judge a good bike for you because I have shorter legs than torso length. Are you long legged?

I'm a little over 5'8", and my bikes are 55cm, 56cm, and 23", but the 23" one is a little too big, but rideable. Becky's 5"11, so I figure a 58 is a good size... but the top tube is a question. I have a strong preference for touring geometry. I think everyone feels ok on a touring geometry, don't they?
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Yes, Tom's right, Becky. I may not be able to judge a good bike for you because I have shorter legs than torso length. Are you long legged?

I'm a little over 5'8", and my bikes are 55cm, 56cm, and 23", but the 23" one is a little too big, but rideable. Becky's 5"11, so I figure a 58 is a good size... but the top tube is a question. I have a strong preference for touring geometry. I think everyone feels ok on a touring geometry, don't they?
The older style frames are more relaxed anyways. Worst case you could mess with stem length. So I wouldn't worry too much.
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Here's a list: http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/bik/391196707.html

Here's a mixte touring frame. They changed the handlebars but they could be changed back.
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/bik/390750768.html


This is a nice deal: http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/bik/390728734.html
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Some ebay stuff close to Minneapolis.
This would be nice with some work: http://cgi.ebay.com/SCHWINN-World-Sp...QQcmdZViewItem


This one is still at $9.99:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Maruishi-Excelle...QQcmdZViewItem
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Actually, there's a chance that it may be a World Sport.

I picked up a World Sport early in my bike hunt that was too big for something like $20. Then I saw a guy who was selling a world sport fixie because it was a little too small, but he would also consider just selling the frame, since he was going to build another. I emailed him, and essentially gave him my World Sport, and he was going to give me the smaller frame. I told him not to worry about it if he never got around to it, but he just sent me an email asking if I still wanted the parts. Don't know if the frame is coming my way, but if it is... it's in the range the bike shop said Becky rides.

But we'll see if the guy can actually get the bikes over here before he goes back to college..

Those Motobecanes scare me to work with. I've heard French bikes have their own set of issues.
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Oh! That Maruisihi looks interesting. I have to look up St. Michael.
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I like this one... what's your opinions?

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/bik/390417747.html

The C&V boys have given it the thumbs up, so far. I'm going to go look at it. It should be light. It's double butted Chromoly. It's early early 80's Japanese (I'm pretty sure).

I like it because I have a feeling it's undervalued and is probably going to be a nice bike.

Don't know what's on it, and don't know if I can put a triple on it without a lot of hassle. It would be nice for Becky to have a triple since she's having trouble with her knees.

Anyway, scout around for good Becky bikes. And then when I find a good candidate, we can all talk about what it needs to suit Becky!

Fans of modern bikes will have their chance to tell Becky why they're so much better, make some recommendations and we'll see what she thinks.

Sound like fun?

Remember, this is for a spare* bike, since hers is not doing well. But, I can't really see her doing RAGBRAI next year without a road bike... but what do I know? I've never even seen* a bike event.
Hi Solveg,

This is a lovely idea, and I admire you for your selflessness, but I'd like to urge caution here. If you fit a bike to Becky now, it may not fit her when she loses a chunk of weight. I had this happen to me - my Navigator has an 18" inch frame, my Trek 7.5 fx - when it gets here - will have a 20". I'm more cramped on my Navigator than I was six months ago.
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Hi Solveg,

This is a lovely idea, and I admire you for your selflessness, but I'd like to urge caution here. If you fit a bike to Becky now, it may not fit her when she loses a chunk of weight. I had this happen to me - my Navigator has an 18" inch frame, my Trek 7.5 fx - when it gets here - will have a 20". I'm more cramped on my Navigator than I was six months ago.
??? really! I wonder why? How much weight do you think would make you prefer a different sized bike? That is very, very interesting.

I wonder if that's why I don't like my old Bridgestone now and I did when I was in my 20's and 135 lbs?

Becky, what do you think so far about all this?

(P.S: No selflessness here. It's an excuse to bike hunt, and Becky's paying for it!)
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??? really! I wonder why? How much weight do you think would make you prefer a different sized bike? That is very, very interesting.

I wonder if that's why I don't like my old Bridgestone now and I did when I was in my 20's and 135 lbs?

Becky, what do you think so far about all this?

(P.S: No selflessness here. It's an excuse to bike hunt, and Becky's paying for it!)
I'm not sure it's entirely the weight loss. Some of it might be due to my generally improved physical condition. If I recall correctly, Becky is well over 300 pounds. As she loses weight, her body is going to become more limber and stronger. She will be able to reach further to grab the bars without excess getting in the way.

She might not need a change in frame size, but she might. So that's why I urge caution.
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On the other hand, the Zebra only costs $90 (half if you get BOTH for $90), so it would be easy to recycle it back onto CL if it no longer fits Becky soon.

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Hi Solveg,

This is a lovely idea, and I admire you for your selflessness, but I'd like to urge caution here. If you fit a bike to Becky now, it may not fit her when she loses a chunk of weight. I had this happen to me - my Navigator has an 18" inch frame, my Trek 7.5 fx - when it gets here - will have a 20". I'm more cramped on my Navigator than I was six months ago.

+1, When I started back, I was not comfortable on any frame above..21" (Road) now I can handle a 23" even though it's slightly cramped in the standover. And thats just the change from 280 to 220lbs.
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On the other hand, the Zebra only costs $90 (half if you get BOTH for $90), so it would be easy to recycle it back onto CL if it no longer fits Becky soon.

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oh wow... I wake up and check the forum to find THIS!

I wasn't sure about putting all this out in public view, but hey... maybe there's another tall woman out there who will find this thread helpful. So here goes - I'm 5'11", fairly typical leg/torso proportions, I think (32" inseam). Historian is right - I've already noticed that I'm more comfortable stretching out a bit than I was when I first started riding, but I've still got about 200 lbs to lose, so I'm sure that will change even more. My Venture has handlebars that adjust to be tipped forward/back, and I've moved them from their most upright position (when I started riding) to about halfway to their forward-most/lowest angle, which puts them slightly higher than the seat.

My LBS (and solveg too) recommended that I try out some road bikes before deciding on a size, but I'm not sure I'd be able to judge that at all well, since I've never ridden one before! They're all going to feel weird. LBS said 55-57 cm, but since that's what solveg takes (5'8" but long torso), I wouldn't be surprised if one size larger was more appropriate for me. Is it correct that if the bike's too BIG, you can put risers on the handlebars to compensate? Or do you use risers if the bike's too small?

I definitely see this as a first road bike - I may fall in love with it and not want to change, but I'd rather experiment and possibly "grow out of" a used (but strong) bike than an expensive new one. If it doesn't fit, can always sell it again on CL.
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Riser if it's too small, a shorter stem in length if too long.

If the standover is too high, about the only way to address that is add some leg length somehow......or wear 1970's vintage platform shoes, or Gene Simmons boots.

EDIT: 55-57, huh? OK, then a 58 should be tolerable as the TT length will be very close to the same.
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Is it correct that if the bike's too BIG, you can put risers on the handlebars to compensate? Or do you use risers if the bike's too small?
Info about sizing and such here (Rivendell bikes). They preach you can adjust a bike that's too big much easier than you can one that is too small.
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I definitely see this as a first road bike - I may fall in love with it and not want to change, but I'd rather experiment and possibly "grow out of" a used (but strong) bike than an expensive new one. If it doesn't fit, can always sell it again on CL.
When I decided to look into a road bike, I did some "good" test rides. I rode my Trek Navigator for about a year when I decided to look into a road bike. When I test rode some, I gave them 10-20 mile test rides.

You will likely find, like me, that a steel touring bike has the best feel for a larger rider. I ended up with a Trek 520.
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I think you need to pay attention to tire size until weight gets down some.

Read this geek thread to see why
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I actually thought about you when I wrote that, and thought, "Awww, East Hill won't care..." and it was too much work to write "the C&V boys and East Hill".
Just teasin'. Over there, I'm happy to be 'one of the boys' .

Becky (and all the other Athenas and Clydes), I think both as you lose weight, and gain experience on a bike, you will become more comfortable on a bigger bike than you thought possible. My first bike, a lovely Specialized Dolce Elite, is a 44cm WSD. As I've biked more and more, I've discovered that I can ride anything up to a 48cm in the vintage steel bikes I own. Beyond that I'm in negative standover territory . I am extremely comfortable stretched out, and ride in the drops virtually the entire time, unlike most of the other women with whom I ride.

The mixte that's for sale could be a good compromise for you. They have very relaxed geometry compared to other road bikes, you don't have to worry about standover issues, and you don't have to strain to throw your leg over the top tube.

I'd say (unless the mixte is sized more for a small person like me) that either the Zebra or the mixte would work quite well, and it would be easy to recover your money if and when you came to sell.

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I think I'll skip the Zebra...

It would be nice to find something with a triple already on it. I've found on my SR that some of these old bikes are really hard to find parts for, and impossible to just adapt, and Becky needs a triple. I'll still try and get over there just to see what's on the bike.

Becky, I'm sorry if you hadn't planned on taking this public! It never occurred to me that bike shopping shouldn't be a group event!!!! I've already learned a lot* about it.

Anyway, if you don't respond to this thread again, we'll just let it fade away. Or you can ask tom to delete it forever! Or if you don't mind and were just surprised, then post here once more.
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This thread is a good idea. It puts more eyes out there to find things.
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It's fine I'm getting really excited about it - just a little self-conscious about being the center of attention! I suppose I can get used to it... lol

I actually spent a little time on the Minneapolis CL last night... in spite of a long list, good stuff doesn't pop up every day, does it?
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I actually spent a little time on the Minneapolis CL last night... in spite of a long list, good stuff doesn't pop up every day, does it?

No, but sometimes you nab some good stuff! Keep an eye on the CL and eBay finds thread in the Classic & Vintage forum, and you'll see .

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