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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 12-29-07, 01:15 AM   #1
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My new Cross Check

It's not as ninja a bike as it would seem from the pix. I just haven't recieved my 3M black Scotchlite reflective tape to do all the pinstriping yet.

It's a Surly Cross Check complete, stock with the following modifications:
- the B17 saddle, front rack, Superflash blinkies, L&M Solo light, and computer from my old commuter.
- SKS P35 fenders (with full length mudflaps that have the shop's logo on them, die cut out of a full sheet of reflective material. Pretty slick, and they're good to me at the shop so I don't mind being a billboard for them.)
- Conti Ultra Gatorskin 700 x 28 tires
- Dimension steel bottle cages (and the shop gets more free advertising because they threw in a couple of 750mL bottles with the shop logo.





I've gotta give credit to Rick at Sammamish Valley Cycle for his hard work in doing my Serotta fit, going over frame and component specs with me for hours, and then putting everything together so magnificently today.
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Old 12-29-07, 07:39 AM   #2
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very nice.
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Beautiful!

I see you went with a front rack... why did you chose that over the rear?
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Beautiful!

I see you went with a front rack... why did you chose that over the rear?
In transferring parts from my old bike, the front rack fits fine with some minor bending of the crown mounting strut. I'm not worried about that since I'm only using the front rack as a bag rest by putting a Minoura Swing Grip on and using it to mount the h'bar bag so it rests on that front rack for stability. Kinda how a Carradice bag mounts.

When I tried to transfer the rear rack, it simply didn't fit. It was too short in the struts, since it really was meant for a MTB, and I couldn't get it to level out properly. I love my rack trunk, so I'm getting a new rear rack today after my ride.

Surprisingly for my commute when all I have to carry is lunch and maybe some socks, (or on LD rides where I only need phone, food, and some minimal repair and rain gear) the front rack and h'bar bag are my first choice. The bar bag has a map holder, and it puts all my stuff where I can access it while riding. I can put food in the side mesh pockets, and have my phone within easy reach if I should need it. The rack trunk is there for when I do small grocery runs or need to carry some overnighter gear.
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I must say that I completely dig it. I love those Surly's
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It looks so good in Black, too!
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Nice CC!

I have the exact same front rack on my LHT (one of three racks on the bike). Tubus cargo rear, duos for lowriders on the front, and the nashbar mini front rack. I like having a shelf in the front, but when putting it on the local buses, the swing arm that holds the bike in place needs to sit on the top of the front wheel. Having two front racks lets me have load down low when I need it, and a convenient top shelf for things I need better access to while riding. I also have the matching "mini panniers" that goes with the rack. Overall, very handy!

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Sweet! I love the black frame!
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I took it out for a quick 30 miler this morning, and feel like I could have done 3x that much with no problems.

I might swap out the cassette for a 12-27, and maybe a 34t inner up front, but other than that it rides great! So much easier than shoving the battletank of a commuter I was riding up the hills.
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Very nice!
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Very very succulent right down to its Continentals.
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I've gotta give credit to Rick at Sammamish Valley Cycle for his hard work in doing my Serotta fit, going over frame and component specs with me for hours, and then putting everything together so magnificently today.
Wow, very cool bike. I want to buy/build a new bike for commuting to work (with the occasional detour through the Redmond Watershed) and the Surly Cross Check is on my "short list". I can't wait to hear more trip reports.

Also great feedback on Sammamish Valley Cycle. I've never bought a bike there (I "discovered" them after buying my last bike) but I've bought a few parts and accessories there. They've always been very helpful and patient with my stupid questions.

Did you buy a complete bike from Surley, or a bare frame and then separate components? It seems like data from the Serotta fitting could be used to select the "perfect" stem, cranks, seat, etc.
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It's not as ninja a bike as it would seem from the pix. I just haven't recieved my 3M black Scotchlite reflective tape to do all the pinstriping yet.

It's a Surly Cross Check complete, stock with the following modifications:
- the B17 saddle, front rack, Superflash blinkies, L&M Solo light, and computer from my old commuter.
- SKS P35 fenders (with full length mudflaps that have the shop's logo on them, die cut out of a full sheet of reflective material. Pretty slick, and they're good to me at the shop so I don't mind being a billboard for them.)
- Conti Ultra Gatorskin 700 x 28 tires
- Dimension steel bottle cages (and the shop gets more free advertising because they threw in a couple of 750mL bottles with the shop logo.





I've gotta give credit to Rick at Sammamish Valley Cycle for his hard work in doing my Serotta fit, going over frame and component specs with me for hours, and then putting everything together so magnificently today.
What a beautiful bike. I've seen one of these up close, so I know a little of the pleasure the bike must be giving you. I look forward to reading about the monthly centuries you will be riding on it.
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Awesome!

Nice to finally see it all together, enjoy the new ride.

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Awesome! After my dissertation that will be my gift - probably the LHT but I love the versatility of the Surlys.
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Wow, very cool bike. I want to buy/build a new bike for commuting to work (with the occasional detour through the Redmond Watershed) and the Surly Cross Check is on my "short list". I can't wait to hear more trip reports.
Today was the first commute in on it, and I'm very pleased. It handled 3 RR crossings and a 50yd section of diamond-chipped pavement with ease. I took the longer hilly route to work (roads instead of bike trail) and arrived in the same amount of time. A 9 pound lighter bike with 28mm vs 1.75" tires goes a heck of a lot faster for the same effort.
I am going to drop the gearing a bit on the low end, though. The hill coming up 175th in Woodinville (~8% grade for 0.82miles) was feeling a little rough by the end. I'm thinking a 34t up front and a 12-27 in back will be much better, especially when I start getting into some of the hilly-er long routes around here.


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Also great feedback on Sammamish Valley Cycle. I've never bought a bike there (I "discovered" them after buying my last bike) but I've bought a few parts and accessories there. They've always been very helpful and patient with my stupid questions.
Synth (no longer there) was the first reason I started going to them. He'd fix anything on my old beater commuter, no matter how far out of whack it was. He'd bring it as close back to perfect as it could get, and then charge me under full price. Rick is the guy who did my fit, and there's another guy there (taller guy, short dark hair, I forget his name) who also helped me out with a lot Clydesdale specific questions. He also told me about the Squawk Mtn Loop, which is pure evil: 1180' of gain in 2.25 miles!

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Did you buy a complete bike from Surley, or a bare frame and then separate components? It seems like data from the Serotta fitting could be used to select the "perfect" stem, cranks, seat, etc.
I went with the Cross Check complete. The 175mm cranks stocked on the 62cm were the right size for me. I swapped the saddle out for my Brooks (which is what they put on the Serotta fit bike when we did my fitting) and had the shop put 28mm Conti UltraGatorskins on instead of the stock cross tires it came with. I was going to swap out the bars, but the 46cm Salsa Bell Lap it stocks with is perfect: Short in the forward reach to the hoods, large enough in the drops, and a nice flare to the drops (maybe out to 48 or 49cm).
I really dig the bar-end shifters. They're simple to operate and I don't have to pull my hands fully off the bars to shift. It's comfortable, and unlike my Paramount with d/t shifters, I don't feel sketchy having to reach down off the bars for a shift.
The Tiagra derailleurs, while a lower-end component, are smooth and confident in their shifting. I may wear them out quickly, and they'll be replaced with Ultegra 6500 9spd components, but they feel just as nice as the 105sc components on my Paramount.
The only component that needed changed out to fit the parameters of the Serotta fitting was the stem. The stock stem was way off for me since I ride with my back slightly rounded and my elbows almost at lock-out. The shop just adjusted the cost of the bike for the swap out of the tires (lowered the cost because the stock tires are more expensive) and the stem was an even trade out. After the part swaps were done, Rick took the info from the fitting, adjusted the bike and popped it on a trainer stand for me to test out. Once it was all adjusted, I rolled out the door.
The Serotta fit data could be used for not only building a custom bike on a stock frame, but also for building a custom frame if you wanted to go that route. Thankfully I'm just on the top limit of production frame sizes with being able to fit a 62cm.
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Very very succulent right down to its Continentals.
It was a tough call between the 28mm and 32mm sizes. I'm almost ashamed to say that the choice came down to a matter of aestheics rather than performance...
With the 28mm tire I chose, I can run the SKS P35 fenders with minimal overhang. Had I gone with the 32mm tires, I'd need the P45 fenders which would have a lot of overhang on the sides.
I can't say I'm sad with the performance of the 28mm tires, though. I've got some cruddy pavement and a few RR crossings on the way to work, and they were just fine.
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Finally got my black Scotchlite tape. It matches the frame perfectly so you can't see it during the day.
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