Notices
Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

Chasing Rabbits...

Old 01-14-08, 05:12 PM
  #1  
fc_
phredite
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 320

Bikes: Salsa Casseroll, Surly Long Haul Trucker, Soma Groove

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Chasing Rabbits...

With the temp today in the upper 40s, and some spare time for a quick training ride, I took the opportunity to do my "flat time trial" route (I'm trying to get my avg. speed back up). The entire route is 16.5 miles, starting off on side streets with lots of stop signs, lights, etc. for the first (and last, its an out and back route) 3 3/4 miles, until I hit the "stretch".

I was cruising that stretch (about 5 miles or so each way) pulling a good 16-20 mph during the ride out, turned around for the ride back, taking a bit of a break, and noticed another cyclist pulling a u-turn and heading out the same direction. It didn't take long before he passed without saying a word.

Now, I have to tell you, having people pass without an "on your left", or a hello, or anything, is something that really irks me. Its a courtesy that should be extended to all cyclists, no matter what </rant>.

I let the other cyclist go for a bit, then put the hammer down. Didn't take long for me to catch up, and overtake him, saying "good morning" as I slipped by after waiting for traffic to clear so it was safe to do so (the road has wide enough shoulders coming back, that I didn't draft a bit, I was a few feet off to one side).

Looked back a few times, saw him loosing ground, and either he turned off, or just gave up.

Some days its good to be a clyde! Finished the ride with over a 15 mph avg speed (those stops on the side streets really kill my avg speed)

Anyway, that was my ride today, hope yours were great as well.
fc_ is offline  
Old 01-14-08, 07:50 PM
  #2  
Banned.
 
Mr. Beanz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Upland Ca
Posts: 19,895

Bikes: Lemond Chambery/Cannondale R-900/Trek 8000 MTB/Burley Duet tandem

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 3 Posts
My idea of chasing rabbits is putting the 150 lb guy on a 5,000 ft climb then trying to catch him. Those mtns really kill the average speed!
Mr. Beanz is offline  
Old 01-14-08, 08:18 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
jaxgtr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 6,819

Bikes: Trek Domane SLR 7 AXS, Trek CheckPoint SL7, Trek Emonda ALR, Trek FX 5 Sport

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 750 Post(s)
Liked 1,659 Times in 977 Posts
My idea of chasing rabbits is watch the hounds chase Rusty around the track and hoping I win.
__________________
Brian | 2023 Trek Domane SLR 7 AXS | 2023 Trek CheckPoint SL 7 AXS | 2016 Trek Emonda ALR | 2022 Trek FX Sport 5
Originally Posted by AEO
you should learn to embrace change, and mock it's failings every step of the way.



jaxgtr is offline  
Old 01-14-08, 09:50 PM
  #4  
Out fishing with Annie on his lap, a cigar in one hand and a ginger ale in the other, watching the sunset.
 
Tom Stormcrowe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: South Florida
Posts: 16,057

Bikes: Techna Wheelchair and a Sun EZ 3 Recumbent Trike

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 22 Times in 17 Posts
No wonder you cracked your LeMond
Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz
My idea of chasing rabbits is putting the 150 lb guy on a 5,000 ft climb then trying to catch him. Those mtns really kill the average speed!
__________________
. “He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”- Fredrick Nietzsche

"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." - Immanuel Kant
Tom Stormcrowe is offline  
Old 01-14-08, 10:00 PM
  #5  
Bike Junkie
 
roccobike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: South of Raleigh, North of New Hill, East of Harris Lake, NC
Posts: 9,622

Bikes: Specialized Tarmac, Specialized Roubaix, Giant OCR-C, Specialized Stumpjumper FSR, Stumpjumper Comp, 88 & 92Nishiki Ariel, 87 Centurion Ironman, 92 Paramount, 84 Nishiki Medalist

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 68 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 37 Times in 27 Posts
fc, I love stories like that.
__________________
Roccobike BF Official Thread Terminator
roccobike is offline  
Old 01-14-08, 10:28 PM
  #6  
Banned.
 
Mr. Beanz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Upland Ca
Posts: 19,895

Bikes: Lemond Chambery/Cannondale R-900/Trek 8000 MTB/Burley Duet tandem

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe
No wonder you cracked your LeMond
This is where I chase the rabbits. This is the north side of the mtn. I cracked my frame riding up the opposite side, where I live.....Some of them suckers are too fast though!

Mr. Beanz is offline  
Old 01-14-08, 10:51 PM
  #7  
Getting Less Chunky
 
ChunkyB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 974

Bikes: 2004 Raleigh SuperCourse

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz
This is where I chase the rabbits. This is the north side of the mtn. I cracked my frame riding up the opposite side, where I live.....Some of them suckers are too fast though!
I still can't get over those pics. I hope they let you keep the frame with the warranty stuff (fat chance) because that's a pretty amazing trophy.

Oh, and the only place I chase rabbits is on "Super Mario Galaxy". Anyone who's played it will know what I'm talking about. It gets kind of old.
ChunkyB is offline  
Old 01-14-08, 11:23 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
jaxgtr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 6,819

Bikes: Trek Domane SLR 7 AXS, Trek CheckPoint SL7, Trek Emonda ALR, Trek FX 5 Sport

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 750 Post(s)
Liked 1,659 Times in 977 Posts
wow, that is a great shot Mr. B. Would love to ride something like that one day, but that will never happen livin in the flatlands.
__________________
Brian | 2023 Trek Domane SLR 7 AXS | 2023 Trek CheckPoint SL 7 AXS | 2016 Trek Emonda ALR | 2022 Trek FX Sport 5
Originally Posted by AEO
you should learn to embrace change, and mock it's failings every step of the way.



jaxgtr is offline  
Old 01-14-08, 11:49 PM
  #9  
Banned.
 
Mr. Beanz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Upland Ca
Posts: 19,895

Bikes: Lemond Chambery/Cannondale R-900/Trek 8000 MTB/Burley Duet tandem

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by jaxgtr
wow, that is a great shot Mr. B. Would love to ride something like that one day, but that will never happen livin in the flatlands.
Yeah, it's cool. Most don't appreciate the climbs but it's a totally different side of riding. Takes time to acquire the taste but it's not all that bad like many make it out to be.

We do a forum ride on this climb. Looking at the pic, we climb up for the far left 7 0'clock. Cut across at about 10 O'clock. Then start to climb at 2 O'clock up to 4 O'clock. then up and across to the Village. 33 miles of climbing. Then back down.

It's quite an experience! A pleasant one once you relax and find a groove.

Jax, if you ever come out here, I'm sure the SoCal people will be more than happy to lead you! I'm sure they would tailor a ride to your liking!
Mr. Beanz is offline  
Old 01-15-08, 06:50 AM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
jaxgtr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 6,819

Bikes: Trek Domane SLR 7 AXS, Trek CheckPoint SL7, Trek Emonda ALR, Trek FX 5 Sport

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 750 Post(s)
Liked 1,659 Times in 977 Posts
Only if it's flat. That would kill me at the moment. Riding the bridges 10 times is still not 33 miles of climbing.
__________________
Brian | 2023 Trek Domane SLR 7 AXS | 2023 Trek CheckPoint SL 7 AXS | 2016 Trek Emonda ALR | 2022 Trek FX Sport 5
Originally Posted by AEO
you should learn to embrace change, and mock it's failings every step of the way.



jaxgtr is offline  
Old 01-15-08, 07:18 AM
  #11  
fc_
phredite
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 320

Bikes: Salsa Casseroll, Surly Long Haul Trucker, Soma Groove

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz
This is where I chase the rabbits. This is the north side of the mtn. I cracked my frame riding up the opposite side, where I live.....Some of them suckers are too fast though!



Those must be the billygoat rabbits! Looks like quite a climb.
fc_ is offline  
Old 01-15-08, 08:39 AM
  #12  
Banned.
 
Mr. Beanz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Upland Ca
Posts: 19,895

Bikes: Lemond Chambery/Cannondale R-900/Trek 8000 MTB/Burley Duet tandem

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Mountain goat rabbits!
Mr. Beanz is offline  
Old 01-15-08, 08:51 AM
  #13  
OnTheRoad or AtTheBeach
 
stonecrd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Weston, FL
Posts: 2,170

Bikes: Ridley Noah RS, Scott CR1 Pro

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by fc_
Now, I have to tell you, having people pass without an "on your left", or a hello, or anything, is something that really irks me. Its a courtesy that should be extended to all cyclists, no matter what </rant>.
I don't buy this part. If I am riding at +90% I probably don't want to waste a breath with a call on a pass, in most cases any call out just results in scaring the beejezus out of the other person and results in more bike movement than a silent pass. In any case it does not mean that I am arrogant and feel the other rider is beneath a comment. Sometime I wave, sometimes I nod and sometimes I'm head down in pain.
__________________
The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard and the shallow end is much too large

2013 Noah RS
stonecrd is offline  
Old 01-15-08, 08:57 AM
  #14  
Getting Less Chunky
 
ChunkyB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 974

Bikes: 2004 Raleigh SuperCourse

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz
Mountain goat rabbits!
Are those like rabid mountain goats. I think I'd be riding the other way.
ChunkyB is offline  
Old 01-15-08, 09:03 AM
  #15  
Senior Member
 
Wogster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Toronto (again) Ontario, Canada
Posts: 6,937

Bikes: Old Bike: 1975 Raleigh Delta, New Bike: 2004 Norco Bushpilot

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Originally Posted by stonecrd
I don't buy this part. If I am riding at +90% I probably don't want to waste a breath with a call on a pass, in most cases any call out just results in scaring the beejezus out of the other person and results in more bike movement than a silent pass. In any case it does not mean that I am arrogant and feel the other rider is beneath a comment. Sometime I wave, sometimes I nod and sometimes I'm head down in pain.
I find a ring ring of my bell works just as well, especially when combined with a wide pass....
Wogster is offline  
Old 01-15-08, 09:21 AM
  #16  
fc_
phredite
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 320

Bikes: Salsa Casseroll, Surly Long Haul Trucker, Soma Groove

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Wogsterca
I find a ring ring of my bell works just as well, especially when combined with a wide pass....
Good point, and always an acceptable substitute.
fc_ is offline  
Old 01-15-08, 08:00 PM
  #17  
Really Old Senior Member
 
Bill Kapaun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Mid Willamette Valley, Orygun
Posts: 13,794

Bikes: 87 RockHopper,2008 Specialized Globe. Both upgraded to 9 speeds.

Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1763 Post(s)
Liked 1,218 Times in 842 Posts
" I let the other cyclist go for a bit, then put the hammer down. Didn't take long for me to catch up, and overtake him, saying "good morning" as I slipped by after waiting for traffic to clear so it was safe to do so (the road has wide enough shoulders coming back, that I didn't draft a bit, I was a few feet off to one side).

Looked back a few times, saw him loosing ground, and either he turned off, or just gave up."

I don't see your point. If it irked you that you got passed, why weren't you going faster in the first place?

It "irks" me when I pass someone and then have them speed up and pass me only because of their ego is so fragile! If you don't want to be passed, then stay ahead. Don't play games!
Bill Kapaun is offline  
Old 01-15-08, 08:25 PM
  #18  
Senior Member
 
bfromcolo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Monument, Colorado
Posts: 379
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by fc_
Now, I have to tell you, having people pass without an "on your left", or a hello, or anything, is something that really irks me. Its a courtesy that should be extended to all cyclists, no matter what </rant>.
I completely agree with your sentiment. If you aren't paying attention to what is behind you it can be startling and cause accidents.
bfromcolo is offline  
Old 01-15-08, 09:59 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
 
Wogster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Toronto (again) Ontario, Canada
Posts: 6,937

Bikes: Old Bike: 1975 Raleigh Delta, New Bike: 2004 Norco Bushpilot

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Originally Posted by fc_
I was cruising that stretch (about 5 miles or so each way) pulling a good 16-20 mph during the ride out, turned around for the ride back, taking a bit of a break, and noticed another cyclist pulling a u-turn and heading out the same direction. It didn't take long before he passed without saying a word.

Now, I have to tell you, having people pass without an "on your left", or a hello, or anything, is something that really irks me. Its a courtesy that should be extended to all cyclists, no matter what </rant>.\
Might I suggest one of these:


Cyclists who get hit from behind, usually don't know what is behind them, having a mirror installed and checking it regularly, means you know that other cyclist is behind you, and also means you know soccer mom is there too (not paying attention) and you can always get out of the way, rather then ending up road kill.
Wogster is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.