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    Quote Originally Posted by Long deKlein View Post
    I've been running Krylion Carbons, but I only get about 1500 miles out of them. At 1K, they're noticeably flat in the center, and by 1500 the Kevlar is showing through. I'm 235#, and run them at 140 PSI. Currently trying Conti 4 Seasons as the Carbons were a bit squirrely on wet pavement, hoping I'll get more miles out of them as well.
    um, I believe Michelin quotes 125psi MAX...I run them around 110/115 front/rear and they ride good. Im 220#...Might be why you get flat spots in middle? That much over pressure would also cause them to ride "stiff" and be squirrely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nymtber View Post
    um, I believe Michelin quotes 125psi MAX...I run them around 110/115 front/rear and they ride good. Im 220#...Might be why you get flat spots in middle? That much over pressure would also cause them to ride "stiff" and be squirrely.
    Actually, Michelin recommends 115 PSI, but I'm with Sheldon Brown on recommended pressure (The Oracle Speaks). I like the feel at 140 PSI, but your point is well taken on reduced mileage. Still, I'm curious to see what happens with the Contis--at 500 miles they appear to be wearing better than the Carbons. When I go through the rest of the Carbons I've got I want to try the Black Chili Conti 4000. Hopefully the price won't have gone through the roof due to the falling dollar by then.

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    I have pretty much no visible wear at all after about 500 miles on a set of Ultra Gatorskins and no blowouts in NYC of all places... take high pressure, available in skinny through at least 28s, and not super heavy.

    I might do 4000S GP Conti's if I get new ones, but for now I'm happy as heck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halthane View Post
    Specialized Armadillos
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    Hutchinson something er-others... not the fusions, but they have a mid price one that isn't bad.

    I really like the conti ultrasports, they last a good while, not as long as some, but they are very inexpensive for the quality, so I get the same or better mile/dollar performance and I really like the way they ride.
    Specialized Armadillos will give you the most miles. I ride a variety of Continental Tires including the Ultragatorskin, 4 seasons, 4K grandprix, depending on the season and road conditions. The SAs are by far the tire with the most wear...a little rough in the ride department.

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    I third or whatever the Continental Ultra Gatorskins. I have over 4K on mine and had no flats until sometime around mile 3800 and that was a tube that split at the seam. The rear is pretty much ridged out but the front has very little wear. These tires have turned miles in Hawaii, Italy, Montenegro, Maryland, California, and Washington state. I did some screaming descents in Sardinia and felt confident the whole time. I'm buying another set.

    BTW, I am 220-230 and use 700X23. It looks and rides more like a 25mm.

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    I commute on gatorskins and have about 2.5 k on my present set with lots of wear left. At 265# plus baggage, they have held up well. I have had flats: Plastic chard, speedometer cable shred and an early AM run in with an angle iron. I'm running 700x28's.

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    I run the Armadillos too. I was thinking of these next, Continental Grand Prix 4-Season with Vectran, Any feed back on these tires?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antelope 70cm View Post
    I run the Armadillos too. I was thinking of these next, Continental Grand Prix 4-Season with Vectran, Any feed back on these tires?
    I just retired my Continental GP 4-seasons back tire. It had 2300 miles on it (plus maybe 300 from the trainer.) I was happy with the flat protection (2 flats over the life of the tire.) I was happy with the ride, grippy in the corners, excellent wet weather tire, and a comfortable ride (but then again, I ride a steel touring bike and I was running the 28mm tire.) I had to replace it because the kevlar bead was breaking and the tire was pulling away from the rim (this happened on a commute home from work.) I made it to the bike shop without a flat. I replace the tire with a Specialized all condition Armadillo - it was the only28mm tire the bike shop had in stock. The armadillo is a much harsher ride than the conti. My GP 4-season tire was the version prior to "vectran." It was a good tire. no complaints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InTheRain View Post
    I just retired my Continental GP 4-seasons back tire. It had 2300 miles on it (plus maybe 300 from the trainer.) I was happy with the flat protection (2 flats over the life of the tire.) I was happy with the ride, grippy in the corners, excellent wet weather tire, and a comfortable ride (but then again, I ride a steel touring bike and I was running the 28mm tire.) I had to replace it because the kevlar bead was breaking and the tire was pulling away from the rim (this happened on a commute home from work.) I made it to the bike shop without a flat. I replace the tire with a Specialized all condition Armadillo - it was the only28mm tire the bike shop had in stock. The armadillo is a much harsher ride than the conti. My GP 4-season tire was the version prior to "vectran." It was a good tire. no complaints.

    Thanks for the feedback. The Armadillo rough ride is why I want to try something else next time. I see Specialized now has the Armadillo technology on other tires in thier line-up now.

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    Just an update. The rear Armadillo I was riding was starting to lose the sidewall. I went to the closest LBS and they had Bontrager Race Lite Hard Case tires. I bought the 25c, got them home and mounted but they were just too narrow for me. They measured closer to my wife's Specialized 23c. Took them back and exchanged for 28c. These measured closer to the Armadillo 25c's I had on the bike. A quick spin around the neighborhood and I like these, definatly not a harsh ride like the Armadillo's.

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