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Old 02-09-08, 11:01 AM   #26
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[Wanna eat, gotta ride]

I love that slogan. Maybe that could be our motto for the Clydes/Athena forum.
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Old 02-09-08, 11:32 AM   #27
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It's not so much the actual calorie count for one of these things so much as it's what those calories are composed of. Doughnuts are bad. I love 'em, but they are sufficiently bad that I'll eat maybe half a dozen a year and acknowledge that's too many. Personally, I'll make my dietary indulgences from better prospects. If you're trying to correct a serious dietary related problem, then incorporating foods like donuts and fried chicken is pretty stupid. It's not about "food police" or "health nazis", rather, making intelligent choices as an adult interested in living a decent life. How long until obesity gets classed as a mental disorder as well as a medical one?



Simple glazed Krispy Kreme donut. Nothing fancy.

Good post with the calorie info, Cast Iron.

Apologies in advance for being long winded. THis is for other folk like myself who have had to, or are, making health-related lifestyle changes. I'd like to add one thing to this that that I think perhaps I read in a fitness column or two somehwere.

Apparently not all calories are created equal. Sure, a calorie is a calorie in terms of energy, but to your body, it's organs and intestines etc, where that calorie comes from is just as significant. While "calories in" vs "calories expended" or needed, is important, the ratio of protein/carb/fat calories is a big deal.

It went on to say the more one eats foods in which a great deal of the calories come from fat, the more the body adapts -- not in a positive way -- to get its calories from fat, and the greater the tendency toward messing up your metabolism, developing insulin resistance and storing these calories as fat.
Apparently these kinds of fat or sugar convert to far more quickly than low-glycemic index foods.

On the other hand, it's reported the more you train your body to get its energy from lower-glycemic-index foods, the better your chances of improving your metabolism and other aspects of general health, etc.

It's not written in stone and no guarantees, and there's a ton of conflicting research out there, but for those trying to make any serious lifestyle changes to improve health or fitness, being careful about how many high-fat things one eats is a good place to start.

Yep, I like the occasional donut treat too, and am trying to get down it to less than a half-dozen per year. That way I can hit the garlic mashed potatoes with less guilt about quantity.



Here's one quick quote from another article on this: "Low-glycemic carbs include oatmeal, buckwheat noodles, buckwheat pancakes, red (new) potatoes, yams, cherries and oranges. They digest slowly, converting more slowly to glucose, the basic energy source of the body. Slower-digesting carbs help make the body less efficient at storing bodyfat than other sources of carbohydrates."

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I don't get the popularity of donuts, actually. My coworkers eat the heck out of them, but I can pass by them without being tempted. I think they are a non-food, like Twinkies or Zingers. I'd rather have a Belgian waffle, myself.
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Good post with the calorie info, Cast Iron.

Apologies in advance for being long winded. THis is for other folk like myself who have had to, or are, making health-related lifestyle changes. I'd like to add one thing to this that that I think perhaps I read in a fitness column or two somehwere.

Apparently not all calories are created equal. Sure, a calorie is a calorie in terms of energy, but to your body, it's organs and intestines etc, where that calorie comes from is just as significant. While "calories in" vs "calories expended" or needed, is important, the ratio of protein/carb/fat calories is a big deal.
A calorie is a calorie, but it depends on what you get with those calories. The donut is basically carbs and fat,
there are no real benefits, just cost. This is why it's often termed empty calories. Now take an apple,
apples contain a lot of fructose (sugar), so your apple may contain the same number of calories, but gives you a nice selection of vitamins and minerals with those calories. Vitamins and minerals you don't now need to get somewhere else, which you would with the donut.

I think really we need to think about the mechanism at work, your body knows what it needs, to keep operating, and that includes carbo0hydrates. The thing is, when your deficient in something, your body will tell you it needs more, so you get hungry and eat, but if you don't eat the right thing, you will still be hungry. So if the body is wanting potassium, then eating a case of 12 boxes of donuts, will still leave you unsatisfied, where as a single banana, might have done the trick. Sometimes I think the body will tell us, eat a banana, but we tell it, no, I'm going to have another donut instead.....
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Fair is a treat day, so yeah, I have my "Australian Battered Potatoes" smothered in pasteurized process cheezy goo. It's one day a year; I'm allowed.
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Donuts are about to get more expensive, as the big sugar refinery in Port Wentworth, GA (near Savannah) exploded and burned.
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Remember, you are what you eat. Doughnuts are round. Pizza is round. Pie is round. Cake is round. Get the idea?

On Krispy Creme- once or twice, I've eaten some fresh ones, and ummmmmm, they were great! But the convenience stores around here sell 'em, and those aren't fresh. And for a while, they had a Krispy Creme in the local Walmart. I picked up a dozen doughnuts one morning to take to work, and they were cold when I picked them up. So yeah, they're great if you get 'em fresh, otherwise, not so hot. My personal favorite is the apple fritters.

They have a Tour De Doughnut in Houston. I think it goes from doughnut shop to doughnut shop. That is Bubba Country (ie, too hot to exercise), so it's a great place for something like that.
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Donuts aren't that bad. If you eat enough of them, you'll win the decathlon:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0b9_1191370215&o=1
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