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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 03-19-08, 08:09 AM   #76
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I don't know. I don't drink beer, or other alcoholic beverages, other than a few sips when well-meaning friends have tried to get me to start drinking.
No wonder you need all those supplements!
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apologies to anyone who might have seen my post, had too many tabs open
and wasn't paying attention.

btw, I do take Glucosamine which seems to help with my knees which after
running track in H.S. (a long time ago) and years of abuse do a bit more than
just creak.
I'm not sure if its a placebo effect or not but my knees seem to ache less, and make
much less creaking and poping noise since I've been taking it. As an aside, my level
of riding and distance has remained relatively the same as before starting the
Glucosamine so I don't think that the result is due to an increase in activity or mileage.

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I don't see how one could go thru life without a sense of humor...


..and beer of course.

Is beer a supplement?
Could be, for me beer supplements socialization.
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Old 03-19-08, 08:23 AM   #79
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Is beer a supplement?
As a native German I don't think this question needs an answer.
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I don't see how one could go thru life without a sense of humor...


..and beer of course.

Is beer a supplement?
The jury is out on cyclist but for scientist the outlook is bleak
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/18/sc...in&oref=slogin
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Beer is a decent source of recovery carbs though Especially a nice dark German Beer or Belgian Ale
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I had to do a bit of cleanup, let's not get personal here. Debate of the ideas is fine, but no potshots please.
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I don't drink beer!
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I'm sorry

There's always chocolate milk......
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There's always chocolate milk......

Man, I don't know how you do it, but you've got me pegged!
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A nice tall glass of chocolate milk after a long ride is THE BOMB. No kidding. Isn't there a study out there that says something like it is as good for recovery as those sports drinks and gels?
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Yes there is. I have it up on my blog, for one thing. The study was an IU study.
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I don't see how one could go thru life without a sense of humor...

..and beer of course.

Is beer a supplement?
My cousin back in Holland married a German girl and they ended up living in Germany. When his wife got pregnant, the doctor recommended a special low alcohol dark brew called Vitamalt. So in Germany beer IS a supplement... for pregnant women no less

I have tasted the stuff and it is very thick, and tasty.

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My cousin back in Holland married a German girl and they ended up living in Germany. When his wife got pregnant, the doctor recommended a special low alcohol dark brew called Vitamalt. So in Germany beer IS a supplement... for pregnant women no less

I have tasted the stuff and it is very thick, and tasty.

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Vitamalt (Vitamalz) is completely alcohol free. Yes, it shares contents that of a beer, but has no alcohol at all. I used to drink that stuff too. Good taste.

But a glass of wine once in a while is supposedly also a good supplement for a pregnant woman. As everything in life, everything in moderation.

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Seems to be slightly more popular as a supplement for MTBers post-ride, than for roadies, but as Floyd has possibly experienced, a post-ride Amstel could cost you a title... ;-)


Oh, supplements ...

Presence of Dog -- good for mood, encourages regular walking or running and ball sports

Bike supplement -- good for rolling and pedaling

Wife supplement -- encouraging home repair and painting activities

Kids supplement* -- where do we start?
* nutritional value completely negated when combined with World of Warcraft supplement

Other supplements:

Fish oil -- GNC or any good fishy burp variety
Emergen-C effervescent multi-vitamin, as needed
B complex as needed (but never in conjunction with Emergen-C)
Occasional alphalipoic acid and COQ10

MSM -- No longer. I used to take methylsulfonomethane MSM for my knees; it certainly helped the pain when I was overweight, and helped keep some hard-on-the-knees activities more pain-free. With that advantage, I then lost 20 lbs and now rarely think about the knees.

I don't take MSM anymore since I have little need. Not sure if there were any side effects beyond a little 'gas' and maybe some aggravation of allergies (possible for some since it is an organosulfur compound.)

Work stress supplement -- good for raising unhealthy cortisol levels and triglycerides, ruining effect of most of above supplements.

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My cousin back in Holland married a German girl and they ended up living in Germany. When his wife got pregnant, the doctor recommended a special low alcohol dark brew called Vitamalt. So in Germany beer IS a supplement... for pregnant women no less

I have tasted the stuff and it is very thick, and tasty.

Happy riding,
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When my (ex)wife was pregnant with my son the Dr recommended a beer
every now and again ( I think he said once a week was good ).

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A great supplement I found by ways of another cyclist was Mona-Vie. Its a natural blend of 19 of the most potent fruits in the world, including the main ingredient which is the acai berry (aka: the superfood). ITS A FRUIT JUICE, ALL NATURAL TASTES GOOD, AND NO WEIRD SIDE EFFECTS, HEADACHES OR FUNNY FEELINGS. It does contain glucosamine which has helped me sleep allot better after centuries and keep my 2 bad shoulders from being as sore. I am not trying to spam or whatever but like in my signature I am a independent distributer for Mona-Vie, I signed up to be in order to allow me to order my own stuff at wholesale. Anyone who wants this product I will show you how to set up as a distributer to by it cheaper and deal with it through the company. Just PM and I will show you were to go. Best part about this product is they make some awesome GELS. Also a good little training secret I have learned from some top athletes is to mix cytomax and Mona-Vie together, it tastes good and gives you the ultimate nutritional drink. Like I said I am not trying to sale you stuff, just showing you were to go to get a a good product, that has shown some good benefits to me and my buddies.
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Old 03-27-08, 02:35 PM   #93
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I would like to add a couple of things to this discussion if I might.Being as I mainly admin a site about supplements.

I would like to add the major things you will need are:
  • Multivitamin
  • Protein
  • ZMA

I could go into a long list of other things but of course the multivitamin is a good source to balance out anything you don't have in your body already. A good diet of lean proteins, Complex carbs and limited fats or at least fats from fish.

I heard one poster state about drinking a tall glass of chocolate milk after a hard ride. This is a very good practice and even one that could be supplemented with more protein in the form of a protein shake mixed with a simple carb. For one thing you will be replinishing your spent glygogen with the simple carbs, and after a hard ride where the largest muscles in your body have really been working hard protein fills the gap here and is used almost immediately after training. It is sent to work to repair the damage done on a cellular level.

Lastly, let me speak on ZMA (Zinc monomethionine aspartate and Magnesium Aspartate)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZMA_(supplement)
http://www.illpumpyouup.com/optimum-...0-capsules.htm

ZMA is an excellent supplement to use at night for recovery. I have used it since it came on the market. Not only does it help me sleep but science has proven it helps in increasing strength levels, Testosterone levels and IGF-1 levels.

I cannot say enough about ZMA
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Just a note about Glucosamine and Condroitin. I have had the pleasure(?) of having two knee surgeries in the last 4 years - primarily wear and tear issues due to a clyde body and a life (now 40 years old) of skiing and team sports early in life. Fortunately, I had access to one the best othopaedic surgeons in the country. After my 2005 surgery - he said not to bother with supplements for my joints. After my second, in 2007, he highly encouraged glucosamine and chondroitin. He stated that the research had recently come in that the benefit is definitely there. By the way, I skied 10 weeks after my last surgery, and have had a great 2007-2008 season.
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