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nomo4me 03-17-08 09:35 PM

A clyde's notes on the Selle SMP Pro vs Glider
 
I ordered both of these saddles, figuring I would try the Pro first but wanting to compare it side by side with the cushiest of the 'skinny folk' saddles, the Glider.

I put about 40 miles on the Pro before deciding it wasn't for me. The wide luv groove eliminated any and all numbness but the Pro has flats on either side of the groove that - like most wide saddles, causes irritation at the top of my hamstrings.
Though I had hoped to return the Glider to Rob at 'We keep you cycling.com' for a promised 100% refund (as long as I kept one of the saddles and returned the other unmounted/unridden), I broke down and snapped the booklet tags off of it and mounted it up.

And am I ever glad I did! This saddle is instant nirvana for me :bday::roflmao::beer::love:

It's not as robustly constructed as the Pro but mounted firmly in a Tompson seat post I have every confidence it will bear my 230 lbs with no problem.

In summary, my own anatomy suggests the flat spots atop the Pro make it great for a more upright riding position, while SMP's Evolution/Stratos/Glider saddles are more proper for a drop-bar roadie position.

So I was going to Ebay the Pro, but decided to mount it on my 2007 Trek Fuel EX8 Mtn bike first, a bike which offers a very upright riding position. The Pro feels great on there so there it will stay.

$ 430 for two saddles :eek: but by God numbness and hamstring irritation are a thing of the past for me so I can justify it.

HTH some of my clyde brethern/sisteren.

Mike

BikEthan 03-18-08 10:34 AM

Whatever it takes to keep you on the bike!

Caincando1 03-19-08 06:58 AM

I've been wanting to try them, but couldn't afford one. Maybe someday.

Erwin8r 05-06-13 10:03 AM

Bump. This is good info... Anyone else want to post SMP experiences?

brawlo 05-06-13 03:56 PM

http://www.stevehoggbikefitting.com/...ll-about-smps/

I've linked this somewhere here before. It's a really comprehensive rundown on various SMPs and a bit of info as to why you shouldn't just go off the saddle width for fit.

I run a Composit ATM. I started off with an Extra to see if I liked the shape. I liked the saddle, but it was too padded for comfort when the miles ticked over. I went from there to a Dynamic, which was good, but not quite 100%. I got a Composit for my track bike to try it out but they're no good for wanting to move about on the saddle. I was going to sell it, but after reading the above link, I put the Composit on my roadie and haven't looked back. The only addition is that you need to switch on your lower abs and rotate your pelvis forward a bit when using these saddles. I did a bike fit and despite the saddle being comfortable, I still got a little numbness when on a longer ride. The answer was in the pelvis rotation and all has been great since then.

Erwin8r 05-06-13 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brawlo (Post 15595451)
http://www.stevehoggbikefitting.com/...ll-about-smps/

I've linked this somewhere here before. It's a really comprehensive rundown on various SMPs and a bit of info as to why you shouldn't just go off the saddle width for fit.

I run a Composit ATM. I started off with an Extra to see if I liked the shape. I liked the saddle, but it was too padded for comfort when the miles ticked over. I went from there to a Dynamic, which was good, but not quite 100%. I got a Composit for my track bike to try it out but they're no good for wanting to move about on the saddle. I was going to sell it, but after reading the above link, I put the Composit on my roadie and haven't looked back. The only addition is that you need to switch on your lower abs and rotate your pelvis forward a bit when using these saddles. I did a bike fit and despite the saddle being comfortable, I still got a little numbness when on a longer ride. The answer was in the pelvis rotation and all has been great since then.

Thanks for the feedback. I'm going to give the "Glider" model a shot (similar to a Pro, but narrower). I'll report back... Thanks!

FrenchFit 05-07-13 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erwin8r (Post 15593893)
Bump. This is good info... Anyone else want to post SMP experiences?

I ride the Pro on two fast bikes, one with the stem slammed & 6" of seat post showing. Good for me, though I have a wide frame. Thanks for the post, I might try the Glider if the LBS has a demo.

volosong 05-07-13 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erwin8r (Post 15593893)
... Anyone else want to post SMP experiences?

The only thing I really "hate" about Sella SMP is the nomenclature of their models. Only after much research analyzing their web site specifications, can one make a reasonable decision about which saddle to purchase. Myself? I purchased a Lite 209 several years ago, and have been very happy with it. However, it must be set up properly. One can't just slap it on and off they go. This is important because due to its shape, there is only one sit position. Most saddles are flat and one can scoot back and forth a bit, but not on the SMPs.

I now have three of the Lite 209 saddles on my various bikes and need another one because I'm tired of switching one saddle from bike to bike as I decide which to take one out. (When I'm planning on doing a lot of steep climbing, I'll take the triple. When I want to go fast on flatish terrain, I'll take the Kestrel. When I want to go for hours upon hours, I'll take the Pinarello comfort bike, when I want to do shorter, all-around riding, I'll take the newer Pinarello. Yeah ... too many bikes! These don't include the folder and the hybrid. Will probably sell the triple if I every get around to doing so.)

Not sure why I decided on the Lite 209 model. Probably a good price on eBay. And, I lucked out on the width because a BG Body Fit revealed that the width of the Lite 209 was within the parameters of a saddle that would fit me. The main reason I stick with SMP is because upon the first experience, there was no longer any numbness "down there". That alone is worth it, but I'm curious about trying a Sella Italia Max. Those have a pretty large cut-out and are flat. Kinda wide however, so I don't know if it would really fit for me. Wish a LBS has a rental model to try, but none within 50-60 miles do.

- - - - -

Would like to add that the U.S. mfg rep/importer for SMP are wonderful. That first Lite 209 broke at the front and even though I did not have a receipt, (the eBay purchased one), they took it back and sent me a new one. It wasn't a fast transaction, but they stood behind their product fully. The swap was initiated by a TT fit specialist in Ventura and SMP is located in Oxnard, (sister cities, just across the "river" from each other).

volosong 05-07-13 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brawlo (Post 15595451)
http://www.stevehoggbikefitting.com/...ll-about-smps/

I've linked this somewhere here before. It's a really comprehensive rundown on various SMPs and a bit of info as to why you shouldn't just go off the saddle width for fit.

Thank you for posting this link. Very informative. I dropped a short note of thanks to Steve Hogg also.

sstorkel 05-07-13 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erwin8r (Post 15593893)
Bump. This is good info... Anyone else want to post SMP experiences?

I bought a cheap Selle SMP Extra from Performance Bike 4-5 years ago because I wanted to give the shape a try but didn't want to end up stuck with a $200 saddle if it didn't work for me. Loved it from the beginning and quickly bought another one for my back-up bike.

When I purchased my Cervelo RS, I immediately moved one of the saddles to the new bike, but decided that a high-end bike deserved a better saddle. Went to a local Selle SMP dealer and tried several models on their trainer. Eventually narrowed my choice down to the Lite 209 and the Glider. Picked the Lite 209 because it had slightly more padding, was a touch wider and as result ended up being just a smidgen more comfortable than the Glider. On long distance (50+ mile) rides, the Lite 209 was so much more comfortable than the overly-padded Extra that I realized I probably should have upgraded much sooner! FWIW, I ended up using the Lite 209 on my touring bike when I rode from San Francisco to Los Angeles.

These days I still like the Lite 209 and use it quite a bit, but my preferred saddle is the ISM Adamo Road. For me, the Adamo ends up being slightly more comfortable when my hands are on the drops, just as comfortable everywhere else, and it's quite a bit less expensive than the Lite 209. That said, the Adamo has quite a bit less padding than the Lite 209 so it isn't a saddle for the casual rider. When I get back on the back after the winter off-season, I always find myself riding the Lite 209 exclusively for 3-4 weeks before switching over to the Adamo Road...

Erwin8r 05-07-13 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by volosong (Post 15598115)
The only thing I really "hate" about Sella SMP is the nomenclature of their models. Only after much research analyzing their web site specifications, can one make a reasonable decision about which saddle to purchase. Myself? I purchased a Lite 209 several years ago, and have been very happy with it. However, it must be set up properly. One can't just slap it on and off they go. This is important because due to its shape, there is only one sit position. Most saddles are flat and one can scoot back and forth a bit, but not on the SMPs.

I now have three of the Lite 209 saddles on my various bikes and need another one because I'm tired of switching one saddle from bike to bike as I decide which to take one out. (When I'm planning on doing a lot of steep climbing, I'll take the triple. When I want to go fast on flatish terrain, I'll take the Kestrel. When I want to go for hours upon hours, I'll take the Pinarello comfort bike, when I want to do shorter, all-around riding, I'll take the newer Pinarello. Yeah ... too many bikes! These don't include the folder and the hybrid. Will probably sell the triple if I every get around to doing so.)

Not sure why I decided on the Lite 209 model. Probably a good price on eBay. And, I lucked out on the width because a BG Body Fit revealed that the width of the Lite 209 was within the parameters of a saddle that would fit me. The main reason I stick with SMP is because upon the first experience, there was no longer any numbness "down there". That alone is worth it, but I'm curious about trying a Sella Italia Max. Those have a pretty large cut-out and are flat. Kinda wide however, so I don't know if it would really fit for me. Wish a LBS has a rental model to try, but none within 50-60 miles do.

- - - - -

Would like to add that the U.S. mfg rep/importer for SMP are wonderful. That first Lite 209 broke at the front and even though I did not have a receipt, (the eBay purchased one), they took it back and sent me a new one. It wasn't a fast transaction, but they stood behind their product fully. The swap was initiated by a TT fit specialist in Ventura and SMP is located in Oxnard, (sister cities, just across the "river" from each other).

Volosong, I have an Italia Max SLR you can try--maybe next time we meet I'll bring it along... I'm currently using an Arione on my road bike (trying to see if it will work), and trying to find a Glider at a reasonable price to try...


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