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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 04-30-08, 08:50 AM   #1
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just started biking. my butt hurts from riding

I just started biking yesterday. just got back from hopping on my bike for a first part of the day ride and i notice that my butt is in so much pain from riding that i cannot continue. i have a Specialized Expedition Sport (comfort bike) so even though my seat has a cushiony seat i still hurt alot. i'm guessing i wont be able to do more riding today, think things will get better tomorrow ? are the cusiony seats to be avoided ? i realize that i haven't biked in probably 10 years but the pain is somewhat bad. more so when i'm on the bike.
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Old 04-30-08, 08:56 AM   #2
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It will get better, it takes awhile to get the sit bones toughened up but it will happen.

Give it a rest for a day then get back out there.

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Old 04-30-08, 08:57 AM   #3
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Don't give up yet. A comfort bike is a good start for getting in shape. You are doing 4x the amount of work if you were riding a road bike or touring rig.

The muscles will develop over time. Cushion seats are too be avoided. When you have a seat that is too supple you are going to lose long term comfort.

Here is a great article...It will make sense of what you are experiencing.

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/saddles.html
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Old 04-30-08, 08:58 AM   #4
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I would not have believed it either, but members here will tell you that a thin saddle that supports only your sitting bones (Tom Stormcrowe explained this better) will cause less pain like you describe. My old bike had a slightly wider saddle and every year starting was painful -- apparently because the material of the seat rubs the soft tissue causing the pain. I recently got a new bike, with a new thin leather saddle and while I am not pain free, it's never so bad that I can't ride.
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Old 04-30-08, 09:16 AM   #5
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thank you all.

thin saddle, ok. should it be cushiony? i'll look over Sheldon's website to see if there is good information there. as well as the other one mentioned.

my seat is definitely not thin, and it looks like leather and is thick, so rather cushiony though it feels like the pain is all in one spot instead of both sides. i think though since i have not ridden in over a decade that in the beginning no matter what, i'm going to hurt. i would not be so worried about this were it not for the fact that when i did ride over 10 years ago, a hurting rear end was always an issue. i think the seat i had back then was more closely similiar to the one described in the previous one as being a good one.

<somewhat offtopic below, didn't want to start a new thread>
seeing as Sheldon has passed away it would be good for someone to ask permission to mirror his website. i know there have been alot of concerns about certain copyright laws not allowing or getting in the way of very good material to be published after the death of someone.
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Moosehead, look at a Brooks B67 single rail. Add in a set of cycling shorts, and if you're self conscious about the Lycra, wear a pair of regular shorts over them. The padded shorts will help and the chamois padding helps with sweat management primarily.

Look here....they have a 6 month no questions asked return policy

http://www.wallbike.com/B67.html



As to the padded shorts, go to http://www.aerotechdesigns.com for cycling shorts or preferably, bibs.


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Old 04-30-08, 12:32 PM   #7
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Give it a few weeks. Once the initial pain goes away, your butt will toughen up some and before yuo knpw it you'll be doing 25 miles pain free.

I bought the Specialized Avatar saddle for my Giant Cypress and I absolutely love it!!!
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Old 04-30-08, 06:52 PM   #8
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Moose,

I started last tuesday and I was VERY sore the next day. I decided to ride every other day until things got easier. Cycling shorts have helped greatly in this as well. As everyone else said just give it time.

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Old 04-30-08, 07:44 PM   #9
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Cupcake.

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Everyone's arse has a break in period-just be consistant and follow the advice here. A trip to the LBS to make sure the bike is in correct adjustment and fit may benefit you too. Good luck.
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I can't speak highly enough about this saddle. Specialized Avatar Gel

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I can't speak highly enough about this saddle. Specialized Avatar Gel

Not endorsing this saddle, but this is the concept you need if you ride more than a few minutes. Bike saddles aren't for stiing on like a big chair. What it does is support your "sit" bones so it hold you straight and errect over the pedals. You generate power by making the pedals go around. It's similar to the power generated from running and the most efficient effort is making your legs go straight down from your torso.

If you have a wide seat that restricts this efficient movement, you either will get sore on the inside of your legs from the wide saddle chafing, or your rear end gets sore from constant repositioning.
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You are doing 4x the amount of work if you were riding a road bike or touring rig.

Cushion seats are too be avoided.
i don't know about 4x probably less than 15% but a little bit more.

it is about finding the right amount of cushion. the best seat isn't always the one with the least cushion, believe me, my orginal seat was just too hard i went with a slightly cushiony seat which works well for me now. just test alot and find what works for you.
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Old 04-30-08, 08:31 PM   #13
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ok, i used to be of the understanding that a nice gel type seat was great so the rear, but learned that it is only great for those occasional tripsaround the block.

My new Allez road bike has an Alias seat (thin skinny type seat for racing) and I absolutely love it. I just hopped back on the road bike and have put in over 200 miles since friday and no problems, but I did by a set of Pearl Izumi shorts with a nice thick saddle (think it is the tri athelete model, but would have to check the receipt). These are great and even though they cost about 80 bucks they are worth it. Was gonna go cheap, but so many folks in the road/racing bike section said spend the $$ on the pants and go cheap on a jersey, etc... and man was it worth it.

get a nice skinny seat like the specialized alias seat and a set of Pearl Izumi pants with a thick chamois saddle.

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The right saddle + conditioning your butt will make the difference.

I found my answer in a Brooks saddle. Cushy seats never worked for me but they may work for some. Even if they do - your bike saddle shouldn't be like a couch. Your butt goes numb in a super soft couch after an hour... and it will on a saddle that is too soft.

I like Brooks because while they are hard to the touch, they give just enough when you put a couple hundred pounds on them. They work like a leather hammock. Metal on each end and leather suspended across it.

When I first started, I had 2-3 weeks of pain, and once the pain went away, it never came back. I was up to over 40+ mile rides and not even numbness without bike shorts.

Wallbike.com has a 6 month return policy on Brooks saddles - try one!
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Check for butt pimples they can feel like a wire sticking into your skin. They can get infected.
I ride a Felt with a racing saddle. Wore Two Pair of bike shorts until I got used to it.
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I can't speak highly enough about this saddle. Specialized Avatar Gel

I have this saddle too. I like it. It does come in three sizes I believe. My bike fit guy says go with the middle size unless you know you have abnormally wide or narrow sit bones. One thing I've noticed on this saddle, I've created an ass print on the left side of the saddle in the gel. A small indent and only on the left side. Is this normal? Why not the right side also?
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Probably because you have one leg slightly shorter than the other, just like most of the planet. Your pelvis isn't 100% level. (No ones is), and you exert a tad more pressure on one side than the other.

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I have this saddle too. I like it. It does come in three sizes I believe. My bike fit guy says go with the middle size unless you know you have abnormally wide or narrow sit bones. One thing I've noticed on this saddle, I've created an ass print on the left side of the saddle in the gel. A small indent and only on the left side. Is this normal? Why not the right side also?
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Probably because you have one leg slightly shorter than the other, just like most of the planet. Your pelvis isn't 100% level. (No ones is), and you exert a tad more pressure on one side than the other.
Are you saying I'm unbalanced ... ?
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Well.......if the shoe fits

No, really all of us have a slight difference in lengths between our r and l legs and this results in a slight cant to the r or l on our pelvises. Some more than others.
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Well.......if the shoe fits

No, really all of us have a slight difference in lengths between our r and l legs and this results in a slight cant to the r or l on out pelvises. Some more than others.
Ok, don't mean to hijack the thread but it looks about done anyway. What about the fact that my left leg is dominant and much stronger and flexible than my right due to an injury from the time of the civil war. Do you or anyone out there think this would cause the imbalance or is it just the cant you describe. Also, I tend to get a sore lower right (weaker side) back on hills and sometimes large gears.
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Leg dominance would cause a similar effect. Your dominant leg is likely the longer one as well. I bet you'll find at least a CM difference in actual inseam length.
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