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    Question about a bike for a BIG guy (6'2 400)

    I went to the LBS yesterday to see what type of bikes if any they would have for a guy my size. Now that I have done some research here I think I will test ride some of the others mentioned on this forum. I am mainly looking for a bike to ride around town. One of the bikes they had me ride was the Giant Suede. I really liked the feel of this ride a lot but I am curious what everyone here thinks of its durability for bigger guys? Any similar bikes that you would recommend? Thanks

    http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-us/...le/1272/29326/

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGuyMo View Post
    I went to the LBS yesterday to see what type of bikes if any they would have for a guy my size. Now that I have done some research here I think I will test ride some of the others mentioned on this forum. I am mainly looking for a bike to ride around town. One of the bikes they had me ride was the Giant Suede. I really liked the feel of this ride a lot but I am curious what everyone here thinks of its durability for bigger guys? Any similar bikes that you would recommend? Thanks

    http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-us/...le/1272/29326/
    As has been said before, I know because I said it, most bicycle frames, should be fine, although that one isn't the typical frame shape, still, with people over the 300lb mark becoming more common, especially in North America, most frames are not going to have a problem, the exceptions, will be festooned in warning stickers, labels and it will be clearly stated in the documentation shipped with the bike. This is because, if they don't warn you, and you are injured by a frame failure, you will be yelling "Forget the doctor, somebody get me a lawyer!!!!!"

    A couple of points, first of all wheels, 26" are stronger then 27" or 700C, because of the smaller wheel, the more spokes the better, although 36 spokes seem to be the "sweet spot" where fewer can lead to problems if tension is not kept perfect. There are some 40 spoke wheels, and some tandem wheels are as high as 48 spokes, but they get real expensive real fast.

    Now I do see a couple of issues with this bike, first of all there is only 7 speeds, and there is a front suspension, this creates a couple of issues, first of all there is no really low gear, the lowest is 42x34 tooth, which is around 32 gear inches, which is going to limit your hill climbing ability. The front suspension is going to suck up a lot of power as well, especially climbing hills, Do you see a recurring theme here?

    The critical questions though are, what kind of riding do you want to do, and what kind of budget do you have?

    1) Do you want to be able to ride on narrow forest cow and deer trails?
    2) Do you want to be able to ride on smooth paved bike paths, MUPs and the occasional smooth but unpaved trail?
    3) Do you want to be able to go fast,?
    4) Do you want to be able to do rides where you cover long distances in multi-day trips, carrying everything you need, with you?

    Each of these requires a different kind of bike:

    1) Mountain bike, these are the Jeep of the bicycle world, all have some suspension, they tend to fall into two broad categories, the Hard Tail (Front only), and the Full Suspension, the only suspensions that have a hope of working with a 400lb rider are the air ride suspensions, and you need a fairly high end one, to hold that much pressure.

    2) Hybrid, this is the Honda Civic, Ford Focus of the cycling world, jack of all trades, but master of none.

    3) road racing bike, this is the Ferrari, Porsche, Corvette of the cycling world, speed and light weight are the key, this is the category where your most likely to run into more severe weight limits.

    4) touring bike, this is the Dodge Caravan of the cycling world, able to haul heavy loads, often festooned with racks, and bags.

    5) cyclocross, the SUV of the cycling world, able to handle light off road, but still able to go a little faster.

    Urban bikes, and the Suede is an urban bike, is a variation on the Hybrid, the same bike with a triple crank, and a solid fork would be about perfect. Your weight doesn't slot you into a particular category, your riding style does. Don't try and tell me that a guy of 400lbs can't do one of these, because someone (probably on here), will tell you how they did it.

    If your not sure, and just getting back into it, you can go for the hybrid, and see what develops. If you find yourself wanting to go faster, or go further, or tackle worse and worse trails, you can always get another bike

    I think I am the only one here, who has been here for a while, and has only one bike, something I would like to rectify in then next year or so.

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    +1 forget about any suspension bike, get a rigid frame only.

    +1 Mountain bikes: They usually come with 26 inch wheels, which all things being equal, will be stronger.

    +1 Hybrids are OK, but many come with 700 wheels (not as strong).

    I am from the N+1 school, currently have about 10 bikes of various types, styles, makes and design. I ride a road bike (so called racer) daily, and have a mountain bike and a hybrid that also get routine use.

    I have two Giant Cypresses (low end hybrid). They are good, although I dumped the suspension seat post immediately. No big deal, I picked up a seat post on ebay to replace it. I think the suspension seats look attractive to new riders, but once you start using it, part of every pedal stroke is consumed in the seat. I would rather have my energy go into the crank and turning the wheels.
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    Thanks for the information that has been posted so far. Wogsterca to respond to a couple of your questions that you posted I am primarily looking to ride this bike around town and maybe on an abandoned railroad right of way that is now a very compact crushed gravel trail in town. Information here: http://www.gocolumbiamo.com/Parksand...rks/MKT_Trail/ Ultimately I might like to ride some of the nature areas around here but that will be a ways off and a lot lighter and a different bike. Ideally I would like to keep this purchase around $500 but could maybe go up a bit. Speed is not an issue.

    I am not quite following how the suspension sucks up power, nor do I quite understand a lot of the lingo that I have been reading about, geometry, etc. Could someone point me to a good "Understanding bikes for dummies" post or site?


    Here is what I have test ridden:

    Giant Suede (topic of this post) - This has so far been the most comfortable bike that I have ridden by far. It does come in a 21-speed version, which I haven't test ridden and is about $50 more than the 7 speed. Not only have I found the ride more comfortable but I also feel more confident on this bike than any other so far. This may come after riding a bit longer since I haven't been on a bike in 10 years.

    Trek Navigator 3.0 - Overall I thought this was an OK ride. Still didn't feel a lot of confidence in myself which riding. Unless I find something else and I don't buy the Suede this will likely be my purchase.

    Specialized Hardrock - There are a lot of positive things said about this bike here so I thought I would try it out. I rode the comp disc version since they didn't have the sport in stock but I was told it was essentially the same frame. Of all of the bikes I have ridden I liked this one the least as I felt I was leaning to far forward the whole time. I also found the front suspension to be very soft on this bike.

    Giant Sedona - An ok ride, actually this was the first bike I rode so it took a bit to get back in to the swing on things on it.

    I went to the local Kona dealer just to try a Hoss even though I don't want to spend that much. It isn't a bike they carry and would have to special order it. The last time they had one in the shop was over a year ago.

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    Where you located at? I saw the Mo in your name and was hoping for another missouri clyde

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    The Giant that you posted sounds like the ideal bike for you. If you are going to go on any long rides(50 miles or more), you will want something more efficient, but for getting around town and cruising on Rail trails, the Giant will be great. Some people like to have the option of more gears and would prefer the 21 speed for climbing hills. If the seven speed is an internal hub, it will have the advantage of being able to shift gears while sitting at a light.
    May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view.
    May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. -Edward Abbey

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    Quote Originally Posted by magoolc1 View Post
    Where you located at? I saw the Mo in your name and was hoping for another missouri clyde
    Columbia here and yourself?

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