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Old 07-01-08, 08:20 PM   #1
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Aack! I hate hills!

At 224# and 5' 10", I hate hills. I ride 5 miles early morning and 5 miles evening on the hilly roads in our neighborhood. Takes about 30 minutes.

My wife and I went away for a weekend at a B & B on the Katy Trail and rode 38 miles one day and 20 the morning of the second with no problem since it's nice and level.

Came back home and went for my morning ride. Hills aren't any easier than before I left.

Too bad we just bought this house a year ago. I'd be tempted to move somewhere with level ground.

Okay, done venting. I feel better.

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Old 07-01-08, 08:36 PM   #2
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Hills never get easier, you just go up them faster.
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At 224# and 5' 10", I hate hills. I ride 5 miles early morning and 5 miles evening on the hilly roads in our neighborhood. Takes about 30 minutes.

My wife and I went away for a weekend at a B & B on the Katy Trail ( http://www.bikekatytrail.com/ ) and rode 38 miles one day and 20 the morning of the second with no problem since it's nice and level.

Came back home and went for my morning ride. Hills aren't any easier than before I left.

Too bad we just bought this house a year ago. I'd be tempted to move somewhere with level ground.

Okay, done venting. I feel better.
Move down here. 90 mile ride today. Flat and Wide.
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Old 07-01-08, 09:03 PM   #4
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Move down here. 90 mile ride today. Flat and Wide.

That would require people to voluntarily move to Texas.....
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Man, Tejas has some nice highway riding. Rode Boise City to Wichita Falls about three years ago. Aside from the occasional headwind, I LOVED the highway riding.
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M'eh! 220 lbs aint no excuse. At 220, I was eating up hills and 10,000ft climbs. I'm 6'1 so I'm a little taller but still no excuse. I was on a ride called the Alpine Challenge. I was doing pretty good then some guy about 10 lbs heavier than me but 6 inches shorter passed me. I thought I could keep up with him but he smoked me like a hot sausage!

Aint about the weight, it's about the training!

At 235 lbs attacking the mountains in preperation for a 12,000 ft century!

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I started hiking in Colorado. Then we moved to a house out behind Horsetooth Mountain Park. I could go out my back door, walk 50 yards, and go in a service road at the park. Walk about 300 yards on level ground and start up a steep hill for the next 1500' up or so.

But let me tell you, that was the most marvelous exercise. Every day, rain or shine, snow or heat, I was out there huffing and puffing up that hill. And I lost a fair bit of weight and got where I could really move up it too. Passing a mountain biker when you're hiking and he's pedaling is a mighty fine feeling, let me tell you.

So yeah, you have hills. Think of them as challenges. Build up your legs. Go up 'em fast and then faster. Have a positive outlook towards 'em, they'll make you stronger. Someday, you'll be at some organized ride and be passing all these people that never went on the hills.
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The hills will continue until moral has improved.
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My wife and I went away for a weekend at a B & B on the Katy Trail ( http://www.bikekatytrail.com/ ) and rode 38 miles one day and 20 the morning of the second with no problem since it's nice and level.
Where did you stay on the Katy Trail? My wife and I have talked about going for a vacation there.
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Learn to embrace the pain of climbing - its good for the soul, the heart, and the weight. Look at the hills as an opportunity to discover new levels of self determination. If you set mind and heart to it you can develop a very healthy love/hate relationship with hills.

All that said, there are simple things to do to build up your hill torrence - first make sure you have the right gearing on your bike. So what are you riding for front and rear gearings? are you riding a compact or a triple crankset? If your not doing this you might want to puts some funds into changing it out. I ride 50/36 compact but there are days when I wish my 36 was a 34 tooth instead.

What is the rear cassette spread? I ride an 11-28 SRAM 9-speed cassette and love it. I like the 11 for the 40+ mph downhills and when the road gets really steep I like to be able to sit down and just churn up the hill in my 36- 38 gearing. what was interesting to me is that al lower speeds my 34 -28 combo works out to be 1 mph for every 10 rpms as I get up over 7 mph that starts to diverge some but still - 80 rpms works out to right around 8 miles per hour.

Once you bike is set up properly for climbing hills than its much easier to start working on building the right sets of techniques, muscles (leg and heart), and mental fortitude it takes to enjoy the climb. THe best advise I ever read about how to learn to enjoy the Zen of hill climbing was to just go slow until you can go faster. I don't know about you, but I'm not usually racing to get somewhere so on days when my legs or head aren't there I just go slow until I gt to the top. Other days I really push it hard and when I get to the top of my last climb home (a 1.8 mile limb with gradient of between 6-12%) I'm praying for a red light when I get to the top. But either way - the hills hurt so good

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Where did you stay on the Katy Trail? My wife and I have talked about going for a vacation there.
We stayed in Rocheport about 12 miles west of Columbia at the School House B & B. Neat place with some really nice restaurants. There's a bike shop at the trailhead, and the B & B is bike-friendly with a locking bike shed, and tools.

natbla - I'm running an XT triple on the front - 22/32/42. I try to stay on the middle ring and work the legs instead of going to the stump puller. The rear is an LX 8 cog, but I dont remember the tooth count.
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Convince yourself that you love riding on hills.
I'm bigger than you or Beanz, although 240 sits differently on a 6'6" frame, and I've said it enough times that I finally believe it: "I love riding up hills!" I've yet to do a 10K climbing century like Beanz, but I've done a 7K and a couple of 6K climbing centuries.

The more you tell yourself the lie, the closer it gets to being true.



Or we could give you the Road Cycling forum "encouragement"... HTFU!
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At 224# and 5' 10", I hate hills. I ride 5 miles early morning and 5 miles evening on the hilly roads in our neighborhood. Takes about 30 minutes.
Another thing to check. Is your seat in the right place? Look at this for more details: http://bicycletutor.com/adjust-seat/

If your seat is too low, you'll cause knee pain for bowing your legs out to put your feet on the pedals. But you'll also reduce your power and not be able to get up the hills easily at all. (I see that lots in the bike riders I see around here)

Other than that, all I can say is that they get more possible (not easier but faster as was pointed out) the more you do them. They take leg strength and proper gearing, and a whole lot more fitness than flat ground.
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Climbing is tough but I have learned to like it. Not that I had a choice since there are no flat roads near me. I went for a ride yesterday and just happened to look at my computer at the 4 mile make and noticed I had already climbed 400 feet. So 100 feet per mile gain. Now in CO that is probably nothing but over the weekend I was in Long Island, NY and did a 30 mile ride that only had 212 feet of climbing for the whole ride. I have to tell you that was a very easy and relaxed 30 miles. The more you climb the better you get at it.

BTW, I am 213# @ 5' 8"
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Old 07-02-08, 11:43 AM   #15
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Convince yourself that you love riding on hills.
I'm bigger than you or Beanz, although 240 sits differently on a 6'6" frame, and I've said it enough times that I finally believe it: "I love riding up hills!" I've yet to do a 10K climbing century like Beanz, but I've done a 7K and a couple of 6K climbing centuries.

The more you tell yourself the lie, the closer it gets to being true.



Or we could give you the Road Cycling forum "encouragement"... HTFU!
I'm just too stubborn to let the hill/climb win. Sometimes my legs fail me though.

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Hills rock. You settle in, spin to the top, think about life, the things that are bothering you, etc. Get to the top, feel the accomplishment. Tomorrow, feel the increased strength from the hill climbs.
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Or we could give you the Road Cycling forum "encouragement"... HTFU!
Okay, I have seen this acronym several times. As clean as possible, what does it stand for. I assume I know the last two consonants but can't get the "H" "T" part.
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The founder of the tour de france once said: "Suffering on the bike is noble since it equates to the full evolution of the will"

I think he might have been under the influence of some good french weed but it's inspired me up some (what I consider) nasty hills.
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Okay, I have seen this acronym several times. As clean as possible, what does it stand for. I assume I know the last two consonants but can't get the "H" "T" part.
Harden The F. Up

It's a common one on the road/racing forum when someone starts complaining. As noted though, I only use it on this forum as a joke.
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On my commute home, I always have the wind in my face and a long (although not terribly steep) climb to conquer. Today the wind was 15-20mph plus gusts and I actually had to stop once on the climb. This was only my second commute of this year but it is the first time I have ever had to stop on any ride since I started back up riding last year. I take breaks at times when riding but never on my commute. This was the first time I knew I wasn't going to make it much further without a few minutes to gather myself for the rest of the ride.

So really, I think my hate is misplaced. What I really hate is wind! lol
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Hate hills? Don't ever live in Tennessee. There's this one hill I ride on the way home (~1/2mi long) that I usually shift way down to take and average 10mph on, well last night I decided I wasn't going to let the hill win anymore and didn't shift down at all and was able to average 16mph the whole way. Killed me at the top but I was able to do it. The whole way I was wanting to stop but I kept telling myself 'it burns so good' .

I figure if I keep this up for a while my commute will be fast and easy in no time
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Wind is worse, IMHO.
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