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Old 07-17-08, 01:24 PM   #1
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Have I ever found a routing system for ya!

http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx

You can DL the cue sheets in .csv and other XML formats, save as an Excel, insert map images using the Print Screen and a Photo program to create the image, and a summary of the data.....and it will upload to GPS as well!


How cool is that? Oh yeah, it's free, too!
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Old 07-17-08, 01:34 PM   #2
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Pretty sweet... but it doesn't include some of the MUPs around here. So it routes around it.
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Old 07-17-08, 01:42 PM   #3
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I've been looking for a better route maker; good find. I tried opening with XML editor, the default option, and none of the three file types were supported, at least they didn't open as maps, suggestions?
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Old 07-17-08, 02:14 PM   #4
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http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx

You can DL the cue sheets in .csv and other XML formats, save as an Excel, insert map images using the Print Screen and a Photo program to create the image, and a summary of the data.....and it will upload to GPS as well!


How cool is that? Oh yeah, it's free, too!
The problem with all of these, is that they use the motor vehicle oriented Google Maps, which means that if your ride includes a trail through a park, it doesn't show the trail, so you need to kind of guess where the trail goes, and that throws off the calculations it does..... What we really need is a mapping system that includes such trails and MUPS. What would also be handy in route planning is for the map to show bike lanes and signed bike routes, and with highways the shoulder width and type. I am thinking a 5 colour scheme here,

Green would be a paved bike trail or MUP,
Green with white dots would be an unpaved trail or MUP.
Cyan would be a road with a bike lane.
Yellow for normal 2 lane roads, and highways with wide paved shoulders,
Yellow with white dots would be a highway with an unpaved shoulder.
Orange would be high traffic arterials and highways without shoulders.
Red would be limited access and prohibited highways.

This would make route planning much easier.
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Old 07-17-08, 02:48 PM   #5
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Dunno about the US and Canada, but Open Street Map coverage in the UK is much better for bikes than google maps.
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Old 07-17-08, 03:40 PM   #6
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Dunno about the US and Canada, but Open Street Map coverage in the UK is much better for bikes than google maps.
It has the trails in a couple of nearby parks, not sure if there is any route mapping other then GPS downloads, if it has an API that might allow someone to mash up something.
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Old 07-17-08, 03:54 PM   #7
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Save the cue sheet as a .csv file in Excel, Make screenshots of the maps, insert them into another page. I used Open Office and GIMP to create these and export to a PDF. The maps THEMSELVES (nOT THESE FILES i HAVE LINKED! tHEY'RE pdf'S) are directly uploadable to either GPS or Google Earth. Granted, it's of more use to a road cyclist and a lot of country roads.

http://www.badongo.com/file/10441897

http://www.badongo.com/file/10441902
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I've been playing with the toaster and can't seem to figure out how to get the thing NOT to use highways...is there a function for it? I don't really want to ride on the turnpike, and yes I know how to "work around" it...
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Just keep your checkpoints real close to avoid highways. It's not perfect by any means, but it has some functionality that the others don't, like GPS upload, etc.
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That's kind of what I figured...still seems like a pretty useful tool though, especially once I bite the bullet and spring for a Garmin Edge...
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I've been using this for about 6 or 7 months to import into my garmin. It's very nice.
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