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    Going from 85 to 120miles

    Well, I am probably crazy to try, but there is an upcoming double metric century the Dr. Bob Breedlove Memorial Ride, and I am going to give it a shot. My longest day was a hilly 85 mile day during RAGBRAI this summer and I expect the upcoming ride to be relatively flat.
    On the 85 miler, I had to pace myself for the first 4 hours as my 9 year old daughter was along. (10 mph is tough to hold

    Anyone else in the area want to join me?

    Any advice on pacing? Do you guys set a speed and try to hold it?

    I will hit a water bottle and sugar free electrolytes (Ultima Mix) plus eating every 2 hours (my RAGBRAI regimen).

    Advice is always welcome.
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    I've jumped from 85 - 105, then up to 125, and from 125 to 206.

    As long as you can pace yourself and you understand how to feed/hydrate over a long day, there's not a lot of difference (IMO) until you hit 150 miles. It's all about making sure you've got the calories coming in along with appropriate liquids and electrolytes.
    I suggest stepping up the every 2 hours to eating small bites pretty consistently. When I did my double this summer, I was pretty much eating for 14 hours; a gel here, a bite or two of Clif Bar there, a pull off my Accelerade bottle to wash it down. But that's just me; everyone's guts are different. Some people on the double were eating burgers and onion rings at the 140 mile stop.

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    I dont have an advice, except take pictures and keep records, I am sure you will do great. The mileage difference is not that big. My biggest jump was from 37 to 98 miles - couldn't really walk for a week or so.
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    I've done a metric, a full century, and most recently 135 in a day this year. It's all about hydration and "spinning to win". If you can do 85 you can do 120, just remember, spin spin spin spin. Make it so that you are doing your least amount of effort possible and you'll have a good ride. For eating, I'd go to every hour, not two, on longer rides it seems to be more effective for me at least.

    Summary, it should be no problem. Go and enjoy it!!

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    The only advice I can offer is:

    Ride Safe & Have Fun !!
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    Never be frightenend to walk out of step with others because you will walk on ground no one else touches

    Remember, hard work pays off later but procastination pays off now!

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    Thanks guys! I am trying to get more miles in the next two weeks than normal. If the weather is very bad, I reserve the right to just do the 60.

    The biggest downer will be the definite lack of pie on the route! On RAGBRAI, you can eat pecan pie and fruit smoothies during the day, drink low cal electrolyte drinks and water, and get along great. I think hitting some carbs a bit more often is a good idea.

    I will report on my trip, and will take a few pics to share. This is sort of my last big event for this year. I'll keep riding, but probably not get in another 80+ ride this year due to time availability and weather.
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    I chose to take a shortcut and do a century. I made it in about 9 hrs including stops. More details later when I have a real keyboard.
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    WOW! Century is cool! Just imagine I am cheering you up at the end

    Good job, man!
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    Now that I'm home with a real keyboard instead of my cell phone, I can give a general ride report.

    The ride started from West Des Moines and headed somewhat south and west for 20 miles. This was the most challenging portion of the ride as it was hilly. The upside was that it was a very beautiful 20 miles with tree lined hills in the distance. I found it hard to pace myself here as some of the hills were steep enough that if I stopped, I wasn't sure I could get moving again. (A recumbent disadvantage.) Spinning was not always possible, so i did resort to mashing once or twice, but about 10 miles in, I started to warm up and spinning got easier.

    The next 15 miles were fairly flat with a roller or two as I headed North (with a 15 mph tailwind). At 35 or so, I had to make my decision (60 or 120) and I went ahead and turned west for the 120. The crosswind was annoying and I was starting to feel the effects of those hills at about 45 miles. I also knew the return trip would be against that 15 mph wind so I looked at the route map and realized I could cut 20 miles by a short cut over to a town 10 miles south of the turnaround point.

    At 45 miles, I stopped for my 3rd rest stop, took off my shoes, and ate a clif bar, a few gel shots, filled water bottles, and tried to get a good rest. Seeing the 120 mile guys coming down the trail, I hopped on the trail and took off hoping that I could find someone for company--no such luck, they were flying against the wind.

    About 5 miles from my impromptu lunch, I grabbed a water bottle, and when I looked down saw a deep hole in the trail right at my 20" front wheel. Yelling "Oh Sheet!", I threw down my feet to do a Fred Flinstone stop and somehow managed to avoid laying it down. After checking my chamois for brown spots, I checked the bike to find my steering was out of alignment. This is an easy fix and continued on. I am certain an upright bike rider would have endoed.

    The trail (it's the Raccoon River Valley Trail) passed through several small towns next, but I was feeling decent so I kept going. I started to notice a bump coming from my rear wheel. I cursed again, got off and checked the rear wheel for true and broken spokes. It looked laterally true, but I think the rim got a flat spot that progressively got worse.

    The last 30 miles were more mental than physical. During a _long_ uphill grade, I started to think that I should call a SAG. That wheel problem became an excuse. I was hurting a bit in the knees and feeling weak, but determination pushed me on. The trail was pretty dead at this point and I was mentally bored. I considered all sorts of giving up scenarios. I suppose this was as much to test my own resolve as anything else.

    When I hit 85 miles (my previous best), I tried to nap on a bench and rest the feet. I suddenly heard "Hey Tom", looked up from my funk to see a group of 3 that I had rode with in the first 20 miles. They were riding the 60 mile loop and had just made it to that point. I hopped back on the bike and caught up in time to enjoy a sandwich, lots of water, and a beer at a local restaurant with them. The last leg of the ride was not fun, but uneventful.

    In the end, I'm glad I did it. My leg and back muscles are sore today, but not bad. Weather permitting, I'll take the kids on a recovery ride today. Thanks for all of your support. This will be the biggest one day of the year for me. Next year, I'll shoot for the double metric right after RAGBRAI when I am very strong.
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    A century is nothing to sneeze at. Plus, it's over a 15% increase from your previous best. Think about it that way, and it really sounds like a long way. I'm sure you'll nail the double metric next season.

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    When I hit 85 miles (my previous best), I tried to nap on a bench and rest the feet. I suddenly heard "Hey Tom", looked up from my funk to see a group of 3 that I had rode with in the first 20 miles. They were riding the 60 mile loop and had just made it to that point. I hopped back on the bike and caught up in time to enjoy a sandwich, lots of water, and a beer at a local restaurant with them. The last leg of the ride was not fun, but uneventful.
    You have to be doing ok if your at 85 miles and people on the 60 mile are just then catching up to you. Might have pushed it a little to hard but if you leave everything on the road then you had a great day.

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    Congratulations on the century. It reads as if it were a lot of fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZombieButcher View Post
    You have to be doing ok if your at 85 miles and people on the 60 mile are just then catching up to you. Might have pushed it a little too hard...
    Just my $0.02 on the nap: Don't do it. Rather than push it really hard between rest stops and then have to take a long break to recover, which allows your muscles to cool down and then you have to start slow to warm up again, just take it easy on the road and do quick little < 10 minute stops. Get off the bike, stretch out a bit, readjust your shoes, take a bio-break, etc. Then get back on and keep pedalling before you're cooled down.

    I'm pretty slow on the road (14-15mph average on my long rides), but I make up for it at the rest stops. Last summer I had the same group pass me between every single rest area because they'd jackrabbit sprint from one to the next, but take 20 minutes or more at each one. Like the tortoise and the hare, I'd come rolling in 5 - 10 minutes after them, but I'd leave 5 minutes before they did. When I did STP this summer, My stoppage time was 01h 15m for 7 stops, including a 15 minute lunch and a 15 minute mid-afternoon break from the heat. So 45m for 5 stops, or 9min each.

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    my longest as a 24 year old was 140 with 3 meal stops averaged about 15 mph. As a 57 year old I've bagged 5 centuries this year and a dozen metric C. My longest in the geezer era is 111. Most centuries I average 17+ mph and 5 minute stop at 33 and 45, 66 (20 min.) and then one more short stop at 90.

    If I drink a bottle every 20 miles, eat an apple or by every 25 and a potato with trimmings at the 66, I am good to go. My Achilles heel is my feet; hotspots at ball and collapsing metatacel joints. I haven't gone further because of my weakness of sole.
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