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Old 10-18-08, 05:42 AM   #1
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Embarrassed At Bike shop

OK I'm a Toad, 6'2" 350Lbs. I went to a fancy bike store yesterday in San Antonio, TX and was pretty humiliated "no sir we can't really sell you a bike, we don't have anything for people like you". I'm sure others have had the same experience so I will cut to the chase. I weight 350, I don't want to weigh that much anymore, I don't want to have surgery. My brother is 56 years old 5' 11" 140 Lbs soaking wet, and a 3:40 marathoner (I'm really proud of him) (we have the same parents, really) I could spend around $1000 on a bike (more if really needed) where should I go, what should I buy?

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Fine a Mom and Pop Bike Shop.
I had some of that with my first visit to a large bike store.
The second shop was where I bought a bike and have service work done.
The guy that sold me a bike weighted 220 lbs.
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Go live with your brother for two weeks and learn his life stile.
Find something to start riding on. Used is best till you get stronger on riding.
It is fun once you get in shape.
My neighbor saw me after I rode for two months. She said "WOW", that bike is good for you.
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Old 10-18-08, 05:51 AM   #3
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Pick yourself up and stop beating yourself up! Those guys were *******s, plain and simple. Go and find another LBS, one that sells to everyone, not just ******!

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Hey free pistol! Welcome...a bunhc of us here have been a embarrased before and told some really yucky things and heavy and on a bike! Read some more posts- especially before and afters! And know shoot you are ready for a bike!

Did you lose a bunch of weight by cycling? Post your pics here! (See Big Scott's post)

Come on over to our Biggest Loser thread - we are rockin and rolling and dropping the LBS!

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Old 10-18-08, 06:14 AM   #5
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OK I'm a Toad, 6'2" 350Lbs. I went to a fancy bike store yesterday in San Antonio, TX and was pretty humiliated "no sir we can't really sell you a bike, we don't have anything for people like you". I'm sure others have had the same experience so I will cut to the chase. I weight 350, I don't want to weigh that much anymore, I don't want to have surgery. My brother is 56 years old 5' 11" 140 Lbs soaking wet, and a 3:40 marathoner (I'm really proud of him) (we have the same parents, really) I could spend around $1000 on a bike (more if really needed) where should I go, what should I buy?

Toad Boy in Del Rio,

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Go to another shop. And send a letter to the owner of the shop that discriminated against you complaining about the service. Back when I was 400 pounds, I was denied service at a Foot Locker store in King of Prussia, PA. Other stores thought my patronage was as good as any other persons', and I took, and continue to take, my money there. I'm sure you'll find a bike shop to help you.

As for a bike, I think the Specialized Hardrock is still considered here as the uber-clyde bike of choice.
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I've heard the story of two shoe salesmen that went to Africa. One came back in a week all dejected and said "Nobody wears shoes over here." The other one sent a message back to the home office that said "Send me some help. Nobody has shoes over here!" Fictional story, I'm sure, but I think that's what you're running into, and it's been seen before. And you don't have to weigh 350, either. Just some of these places have a preconceived idea of what a cyclist is, and if you don't walk in wearing lycra, you're obviously not a potential customer.

Read around on the Clydesdale forum here and try to get an idea of what kind of bike you're interested it and what other people ride. Generally, it's the wheels that give heavier people problems, not the frame itself, so check into the wheel cost while you're at it.

Then go visit another bicycle store or two and see what you find.

Don't assume it's all about your weight, either. One of the biggest stores in town here, I've been in there two or three times and was just pretty well ignored. Then one time I was in there and had about 7 different sales people ask if they could help me. The difference wasn't me, it was how busy the store was. I'm not saying that's the case with your first visit there, but if you walk in other stores and don't have salesmen jumping all over you, don't write 'em off too quickly.
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i am getting back in the bike ride thing after a 25 year break. My wife got me a diamond back outback from dicks sporting goods and i am 275 lbs. and the bike works for me. I had to replace that small hot dog roll shaped seat with a 4x8 sheet of ply wood..lol and now my ass fits... lol all joking aside..
I did replace the seat that came with the unit with a larger seat and it made a difference. I know what you are talking about the humiliation in the bike shop. After riding for a few weeks i felt the need for a set of good bike shorts. Well instead first going to the bike shop and ask them (i did not want them to thing i was looking for a Halloween outfit).. I posted a post on this forum of what i was looking for and a bunch of guys on here told me what to get. So i did a search on the net to see how large those shorts go. (my jeans are a 44-46) well i found out some short company's run to 3xl. The first bike shop i called said that they have some but did not know what size they had on hand. The second shop said that the largest they carry was 2xl. BUT the guy asked me what was my pant size i was and i told him and he said they should fit. Out the door i go to the bike shop. I went to the first shop that did not know what size they had on hand because it was closer to me. Well i walked in and asked the kid to see the Pearl Izumi P.R.O. MICROSENSOR SHORT in 3xl and he thought i was pulling a prank on him... I seen the look on his face like "what the heck is a guy like u doing looking for a set of bike shorts" well the largest size he had was large and i asked him to show me where the dressing room was... YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN HIS FACE AFTER I ASKED HIM ABOUT THE DRESSING ROOM!.. I was just joking with him and i left.
I went to the second shop that had the 2xl's in stock. Walked in and the guy said to me "are you the guy who called about the shorts" i said to myself here we go again they must be all alike! I said yes.. he showed me them and began to tell he that not long ago he himself was looking for a pair of shorts when he was getting back into cycling and they didn't have 3x and tried on the 2xl and they fit. At that point i sensed that the guy was NOT A PRICK and was out for my best interest. I tried them on and they fit. Point is i felt humiliated at the first shop! I will pass that shop to go to the one that made me feel at home. To answer your question i am 275 lbs. and ride a diamondback outlander and the bike holds me.
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Keep looking at different bike shops. You will find one that wants to help you. I found a small bike shop that wanted to listen to me. The others were big name shops and they didn't care!!!!
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HI don't get bummed out

HI,
I weighed a lot as a life long CD, bigger people need stronger bikes, many of the Mountian bikes are weight forgiving when you hit pot holes or bump a curb . I believe the soft-tail bikes help preventspoke damage when hitting a hard bump.
I weighed around 265, not as much as you but still rather large for a bicycle nut.
My local LBS look out for me they invite me to ride with the weekend (C) group(slowest riding group), Get a good soft-tail mountian bike, keep the tires well inflated and ride it every day, pay attention to your fricton points on your back side they sell butter for your butt that help prevents blisters. I found some extra large riding pants that are like walking shorts with pockets and have a nice soft wedge to prevent soreness.
RIde a mile or two for week or so, and then gradually try to increase, do it every day you can.
After a couple months you will see a difference , I ve only lost 10 pounds but I feel great and look healthy. You have to start somewhere, activity changes your mass, you may never wiergh like your brother but you'll be as healthy. PS You Can do it many of the CD's here started riding too..And for goodness sake never buy anything at that first store ever...
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PSPS I find keeping the front tire at a lower pressure than the rear dosen't slow you down and really dampens the vibration my hands bothered me the most when I started riding.
DOn't buy a bike at wally-world or K-mart they can be dangerous due to part failures.

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Here is a good place to begin your bike shopping homework. There are quite a few Clydesdales that posted pics and info about their bikes. you can learn alot from their experiences.
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Either the moron doesn't know bikes or he's too figgin' lazy to look for one! Find naother shop. there are plenty of idiots working in the shops. But there are some good ones too that will be more than willing to help, even if you're spending $15.
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I believe the soft-tail bikes help preventspoke damage when hitting a hard bump.
I'd suggest the hardtail like the one you have in the pic. I just can't see pivoting parts holding up to the constant movement and jarring of the swivels. I'd bet a good rigid mtb and good rims.

I've seen softbeam tandems snap form the constant pouncing of a medium sized woman.
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THAT IS BS!

I rode 10,000 miles while I was 350#'s and I only popped one spoke (OK, I broke a seatpost as well, but I digress). About 7,000 of those miles were on a STOCK Trek 7200 hybrid bike. You can ride, just make sure you get a good wheelset with at least 36 spokes.

I would write your local paper or media and tell them what these jerks said. Put 'em out of business I say.
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There is a Performance Bike shop somewhere out by the airport in San Antonio I visited last summer on vacation. Everyone was nice there. Just keep looking around and don't let it discourage you. We will be your support.
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Toad Boy Recovers

Is this the right thing? The skinny guys at the first shop said that I would have to have special springs put in the forks so they would not break. Is this true?

http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCBkModel.jsp?spid=22087

There is a dealer here in Del Rio that carries them, it looks pretty dilapidated (the dealership) and I did go there first. But maybe they will help.

If I have a pants inseam of 31" what size frame should I get?

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First things first, take everything you learned at that shop and promptly forget it.
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Being 350 pounds you should have just snatched the little jerk up by the shirt collar and shoved one of those bikes up his @$$
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Is this the right thing? The skinny guys at the first shop said that I would have to have special springs put in the forks so they would not break. Is this true?

http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCBkModel.jsp?spid=22087

There is a dealer here in Del Rio that carries them, it looks pretty dilapidated (the dealership) and I did go there first. But maybe they will help.

If I have a pants inseam of 31" what size frame should I get?

Dwight

That' the reason I say go rigid(no shocks, front or rear). Shcoks have weight limits. I am at the top of the limit on my bike and they DO bottom out!

Depends on height too. I am 6'1 and ride a 19.5 mtb. I have a 31-32 inseam and ffel fine. But others with the same inseam but 6 inches shorter may not like the long reach to the handlebars.
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Is this the right thing? The skinny guys at the first shop said that I would have to have special springs put in the forks so they would not break. Is this true?

http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCBkModel.jsp?spid=22087

There is a dealer here in Del Rio that carries them, it looks pretty dilapidated (the dealership) and I did go there first. But maybe they will help.

If I have a pants inseam of 31" what size frame should I get?

Dwight
That is BS about the fork. Your weight isn't riding on the fork! Trek doesn't have any weight limits on their suspension forks, and I can't imagine Specialized does either. The shop is just trying to discourage you because only the very thin, very young, and very affluent ride bikes - or at least so they think.

Ditch that shop NOW.
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first things first, take everything you learned at that shop and promptly forget it.
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Being 350 pounds you should have just snatched the little jerk up by the shirt collar and shoved one of those bikes up his @$$
I love this guy!

Trouble is, every time I loose my temper I feel worse than whatever got me there :-)

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I love this guy!

Trouble is, every time I loose my temper I feel worse than whatever got me there :-)

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OK I'm a Toad, 6'2" 350Lbs. I went to a fancy bike store yesterday in San Antonio, TX and was pretty humiliated "no sir we can't really sell you a bike, we don't have anything for people like you". I'm sure others have had the same experience so I will cut to the chase. I weight 350, I don't want to weigh that much anymore, I don't want to have surgery. My brother is 56 years old 5' 11" 140 Lbs soaking wet, and a 3:40 marathoner (I'm really proud of him) (we have the same parents, really) I could spend around $1000 on a bike (more if really needed) where should I go, what should I buy?

Toad Boy in Del Rio,

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**** that bike shop. They're being *******s needlessly. LOTS of bikes from lots of shops will support your weight without any trouble. But, you'll find, as everyone (clyde or not) does, that you need help with some things as you are getting started out. And, for that you need a shop that wants to help you. It's probably worth wandering around and seeing how you like the reception at shops. When you find one that seems good, see how their bikes are.
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There is a Performance Bike shop somewhere out by the airport in San Antonio I visited last summer on vacation. Everyone was nice there. Just keep looking around and don't let it discourage you. We will be your support.
I think Pistol needs to find a bike shop that's going to 'be with him for the ride', so to speak. I was lucky, the bike shop that I found was very supportive of a 275 pound guy taking up cycling. (They didn't know I didn't know how to ride until after I bought my first bike - I lied because I was so ashamed.) Had I wandered into one of the other local shops, I very well might never have gone as far as I have. If there's a shop that has lots of hybrids/commuter bikes/touring bikes/mountain bikes, he might find he gets a better welcome than at a shop that caters primarily to roadies.
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Freepistol - welcome to the site. I look forward to hearing about your success, it will come. And BTW, you aren't that BIG on this site

1. Ride the bike and see how it feels. I bought a bike from CL for $20.00 when I was commuting between to homes so I didn't have to transport a bike back and forth. It felt comfortable and rode great.
2. Spend as little as possible. Get a used bike.
3. Get a MTB.
4. Don't get caught up in components. As long as they feel smooth and function properly.
5. Once you ride a 1,000 miles total you will have a feel for the type of riding you want to do and what feels good to you on a bike.

By waiting to spend your money on a bike after riding the first 1,000 miles you will make a better decision. If you don't keep with cycling, your out your 20 - 50 dollars. You will have other expenses when you start such as gloves, shorts/bibs, etc. Items you can continue on your new bike. By waiting you will also have lost weight, gained fitness, and flexibility. All of these come into play on getting a bike that feels comfortable. What feels comfortable today may not after the first 1,000 miles.

So get a cheap bike as soon as possible and ride, ride, and ride ("ride lots"). During the first 1,000 miles don't worry about interval training, hill training. or anything else. Slow steady miles until you have built this base. Some say you need to ride the first 1,000 miles each year this way.
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