Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Results 1 to 17 of 17
  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Marysville, WA
    My Bikes
    Trek Portland/Gary Fisher Hoo Koo E Koo/LeMond Versailles
    Posts
    464
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Nether Region Pain Question (ladies may want to skip this one)

    Ok, I started commuting back in the spring after getting enough into shape to be able to survive the ride without dropping dead of a heart attack. I have dropped 60+ pounds so far, and I commute nearly every single weekday, and frequently ride on the weekend days just for fun. The commute is 6 miles each way. I mention all this because one very common statement I have read in other threads about seat pain is that you just need to ride more and you will adjust. I think by now I can reliably state that I am not going to adjust.

    My current saddle, which came with the bike when I bought it new, is a Selle Italia XO. The dilemma for me is how I am supposed to sit on this thing. I can sit back on my sit bones and keep my butt from hurting, but when I do that my 'nads get a major trashing on the front of the seat. If I slide forward enough to spare the genital abuse, then I am not up on my sit bones and I get butt pain. More often than not I end up getting butt pain because quite frankly any pain is better than scrambled eggs.

    I still tip the scales at around 250 pounds, and that is in the morning before the shower. Once I am dressed and add my loaded backpack I am sure I am up around 270 again when I park my seat on the saddle.

    When I mentioned all this to the guys at my LBS they had no suggestions, and completely discouraged me from my own suggestion of tipping down the front of the saddle. So, I am hoping someone here can share some wisdom. Just what is it that must be done to overcome this tradeoff? Any ideas at all?

  2. #2
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Near Sacramento
    Posts
    4,872
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Likely a different saddle will take care of the entire problem. However, I have no idea what to suggest for you. We're all different down there and what works for me might not work for you. I use a Terry Fly, for whatever that's worth.
    -------

    Some sort of pithy irrelevant one-liner should go here.

  3. #3
    Triathlon in my future??? flip18436572's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Southwest Iowa
    My Bikes
    Junk, that is why I am here. :-)
    Posts
    2,193
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Is your saddle tipped back? Mine is level and I don't have the same problem, but I didn't ever have the same problem.

    Are you wearing bike shorts?

    If so, where are you placing "the boys" when you put on the shorts? That could fix some of your problem, from the little bit you posted.
    2007 Jamis Ventura Comp
    2006 Jamis Explorer 2.0
    2000 Specialized Hardrock (bought used)
    Swim, Bike, Run and sounds like fun

  4. #4
    circus bear ban guzzi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Austin
    My Bikes
    97(?) GT Richochet, 00 Schwinn SuperSport
    Posts
    642
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    uhhh, not to get too graphic but bike shorts, try a new sddle, check the tilt (level works best for me) and if your in bike gear, lift the boys towards your belly before getting on the bike. If its your belly (maybe?) getting in the way and pressing down, DO try angling the seat but just one notch. Worse comes to worse, when I started riding again I had to angle the seat off to one side *just* a bit in order to give the boys some wiggle room under my gut...

    good luck!
    Car Free Life.
    Riding without a brake is like saying that you trust traffic. ~ jonestr

  5. #5
    n00b Caffeind's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Siler City, NC
    My Bikes
    Mt. Shasta Kilimanjaro
    Posts
    10
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I haven't met a saddle yet that didn't make my junk numb. I think next I'll try a hornless saddle and if that doesn't help I'm going to have to go recumbent.

  6. #6
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    5
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I tried tilting my seat nose down just a hair and the pain went away but then my wrists started hurting...I'm guessing from having to hold by butt in the saddle, so i put it back. I recently tried moving the nose to the left a hair like Ban mentioned and so far so good. My next step is to try a new saddle.

  7. #7
    Banned. Mr. Beanz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Upland Ca
    My Bikes
    Lemond Chambery/Cannondale R-900/Trek 8000 MTB/Burley Duet tandem
    Posts
    20,031
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    I think the dude discouraging younot to tilt the seat down is wrong. I know a guy that does double centuries with his saddle tilted bitime. Maybe 40 degrees. Not sure how he does it but it works. for him!

    Another trick is to turn the nose of the saddle a few degrees to either side. I've done it before, seemed to work. But best bet was investing in a good saddle. I have a WTB RocketV on one roadie and a Terry Fly on the other. Both were about $100.

    I just about always have to stand, then insert hand, get a hold of the junk and lift before I sit if I want to be real comfy.

  8. #8
    Senior Member dbikingman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Spokane/Tri-Cities WA
    My Bikes
    mountain bike, road bike
    Posts
    1,332
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I had a similar issue in being rubbed sore. It wasn't the saddle. When I wore bike shorts or Jockey Sport (a type of compression briefs) the added support cured the problem. Since I lost weight it hasn't been an issue.

  9. #9
    DRF aka Thrifty Bill wrk101's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    The NC Mountains
    My Bikes
    Too many to list, all vintage
    Posts
    19,467
    Mentioned
    59 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Probably a side issue, but do you have the problem when you are not wearing the backpack? That can change your positioning. I would get an inexpensive rear rack, and lose the backpack. You can get a rear rack at Nashbar for $10....

  10. #10
    Senior Member cod.peace's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    eastern Massachusetts
    My Bikes
    Rans V-Rex
    Posts
    999
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Caffeind View Post
    I haven't met a saddle yet that didn't make my junk numb. I think next I'll try a hornless saddle and if that doesn't help I'm going to have to go recumbent.
    Come to the dark side... While I haven't yet ridden it (I didn't get the chain on it today after UPS brought it), the seat on my new-to-me 'bent is very comfy. No worries about numb nether regions. For me, it was wrist pain caused, as I discovered after a few doc visits, by mild carpal tunnel that made me go recumbent.
    old steel Specialized Hardrock

  11. #11
    I'm Rad. vXhanz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Florida
    My Bikes
    2008 Allez (Sold), 2009 Surly LHT (Sold), 2014 Motobecane Fantom Cross Pro
    Posts
    365
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I agree with the seat tilt, it's your bike and your body, do what you need to do for comfort. I had numbness for a while and when I tilted the seat down a couple degree's and slid it forward a few millimeters the numbness went away. Make small adjustments until the pain disappears... if that doesn't work, go with a bent as mentioned already.

    V

  12. #12
    Neil_B
    Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
    Probably a side issue, but do you have the problem when you are not wearing the backpack? That can change your positioning. I would get an inexpensive rear rack, and lose the backpack. You can get a rear rack at Nashbar for $10....
    Probably a good idea anyway for commuting.

  13. #13
    Neil_B
    Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by ban guzzi View Post
    uhhh, not to get too graphic but bike shorts, try a new sddle, check the tilt (level works best for me) and if your in bike gear, lift the boys towards your belly before getting on the bike. If its your belly (maybe?) getting in the way and pressing down, DO try angling the seat but just one notch. Worse comes to worse, when I started riding again I had to angle the seat off to one side *just* a bit in order to give the boys some wiggle room under my gut...

    good luck!
    Hmm, angling the saddle nose didn't cause discomfort in itself? I've experimented with angling the nose for a different reason, to help force my crooked pelvis back in line, and it wasn't comfortable at all. (It didn't work in my case.)

  14. #14
    Senior Member scrapmetal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Quartered safe out here
    My Bikes
    197x?? Raleigh rescued from scrap metal; Specialized Roubaix
    Posts
    382
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    +1 for tilting. I adjust the geometry of my saddle over quite a few rides, going up and down, just trying to figure out what works the best.

    The worst nut crusher I experienced was a workout bike in my job's gym. It was unbelievable and there was nothing they could do with it.
    Po všetkém hovno, enem po včelách med.

  15. #15
    circus bear ban guzzi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Austin
    My Bikes
    97(?) GT Richochet, 00 Schwinn SuperSport
    Posts
    642
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by The Historian View Post
    Hmm, angling the saddle nose didn't cause discomfort in itself? I've experimented with angling the nose for a different reason, to help force my crooked pelvis back in line, and it wasn't comfortable at all. (It didn't work in my case.)
    Well, it didn't originally. Now it would. Guess I needed room to breathe more than recliner cush. Now my saddles are dead straight and level on my bikes. Less gut to crowd the twins, now...
    Car Free Life.
    Riding without a brake is like saying that you trust traffic. ~ jonestr

  16. #16
    Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    43
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    A comfy bike saddle

    NOTHING will ever beat my RANS V-Rex seat.....but since I sold the V-Rex (a GREAT bike).....I just ordered and will be putting the following on my road bike:

    www.selleanatomica.com

    Check it out!
    Bob

  17. #17
    fishologist cohophysh's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Pacific Northwest
    My Bikes
    Diamondback MTB; Leader 736R
    Posts
    1,200
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    you might want to look into a seat post that allows for micro adjustments as well.
    We cannot solve problems with the same level of consciousness that created them. A.E.

    1990 Diamond Back MTB
    2007 Leader 736R
    www.cohocyclist.blogspot.com
    http://www.loopd.com/members/cohocyclist/Default.aspx



Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •