July 5th Century Ride - should I go for the full 100 or settle for the 1/2 century?
06-22-08, 07:07 PM
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July 5th Century Ride - should I go for the full 100 or settle for the 1/2 century?
I'm looking for some advice as its time to make the decision now that I'm 2 weeks out and definitely under done in training. THis ride is my first century ride that is on my goals for the year. So should I go for the half century, using the logical 2X my normal ride formula, or just try and tough out the 100 miles even though the longest ride I've done in the last month is only 36 miles long?
The Century ride is the Mt. Davis Century here is a short description:
'The LHORBA Mt. Davis Century and Half Century is a fully supported ride that winds through the country roads of Somerset County. Starting south of Johnstown, the century passes near Jennerstown, through Somerset, Garret and Meyersdale before the Mt. Davis summit, and returns through Rockwood, Somerset, and Jenners. The half century follows the same route as the century simply starting and ending in Somerset. Both rides are somewhat hilly and both rides will reach their halfway points at the summit of Mt. Davis. Total climbing is just under 10,000 for the century ride and about 5,500 for the half century (calculated by TopoUSA)."
So I do roughly 2000 feet of climbing each day of commuting (over 16 miles of the total distance) 3-4 days a week. I didn't ride this weekend but last weekend did a 29 mile ride with 3500 feet of climbing. I can schedule a ride next weekend that is 40 miles with 9,000 feet of climbing or a 54 mile one with 6500 feet. But other than that I'll ride 4 days of 16 miles each way this week, and 3 days the week of ride.
So logically I figure I should be scaling back my goal but was wondering if any one has just "done it" on this kind of hard century without the "right" lead up, and how did it go?
So what do you all think, should I HTFU and just do the 100 miles and 10K of climbing or fess up on my training levels and give the 1/2 century a go?
The Century ride is the Mt. Davis Century here is a short description:
'The LHORBA Mt. Davis Century and Half Century is a fully supported ride that winds through the country roads of Somerset County. Starting south of Johnstown, the century passes near Jennerstown, through Somerset, Garret and Meyersdale before the Mt. Davis summit, and returns through Rockwood, Somerset, and Jenners. The half century follows the same route as the century simply starting and ending in Somerset. Both rides are somewhat hilly and both rides will reach their halfway points at the summit of Mt. Davis. Total climbing is just under 10,000 for the century ride and about 5,500 for the half century (calculated by TopoUSA)."
So I do roughly 2000 feet of climbing each day of commuting (over 16 miles of the total distance) 3-4 days a week. I didn't ride this weekend but last weekend did a 29 mile ride with 3500 feet of climbing. I can schedule a ride next weekend that is 40 miles with 9,000 feet of climbing or a 54 mile one with 6500 feet. But other than that I'll ride 4 days of 16 miles each way this week, and 3 days the week of ride.
So logically I figure I should be scaling back my goal but was wondering if any one has just "done it" on this kind of hard century without the "right" lead up, and how did it go?
So what do you all think, should I HTFU and just do the 100 miles and 10K of climbing or fess up on my training levels and give the 1/2 century a go?
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I'm looking for some advice as its time to make the decision now that I'm 2 weeks out and definitely under done in training. THis ride is my first century ride that is on my goals for the year. So should I go for the half century, using the logical 2X my normal ride formula, or just try and tough out the 100 miles even though the longest ride I've done in the last month is only 36 miles long?
The Century ride is the Mt. Davis Century here is a short description:
'The LHORBA Mt. Davis Century and Half Century is a fully supported ride that winds through the country roads of Somerset County. Starting south of Johnstown, the century passes near Jennerstown, through Somerset, Garret and Meyersdale before the Mt. Davis summit, and returns through Rockwood, Somerset, and Jenners. The half century follows the same route as the century simply starting and ending in Somerset. Both rides are somewhat hilly and both rides will reach their halfway points at the summit of Mt. Davis. Total climbing is just under 10,000 for the century ride and about 5,500 for the half century (calculated by TopoUSA)."
So I do roughly 2000 feet of climbing each day of commuting (over 16 miles of the total distance) 3-4 days a week. I didn't ride this weekend but last weekend did a 29 mile ride with 3500 feet of climbing. I can schedule a ride next weekend that is 40 miles with 9,000 feet of climbing or a 54 mile one with 6500 feet. But other than that I'll ride 4 days of 16 miles each way this week, and 3 days the week of ride.
So logically I figure I should be scaling back my goal but was wondering if any one has just "done it" on this kind of hard century without the "right" lead up, and how did it go?
So what do you all think, should I HTFU and just do the 100 miles and 10K of climbing or fess up on my training levels and give the 1/2 century a go?
The Century ride is the Mt. Davis Century here is a short description:
'The LHORBA Mt. Davis Century and Half Century is a fully supported ride that winds through the country roads of Somerset County. Starting south of Johnstown, the century passes near Jennerstown, through Somerset, Garret and Meyersdale before the Mt. Davis summit, and returns through Rockwood, Somerset, and Jenners. The half century follows the same route as the century simply starting and ending in Somerset. Both rides are somewhat hilly and both rides will reach their halfway points at the summit of Mt. Davis. Total climbing is just under 10,000 for the century ride and about 5,500 for the half century (calculated by TopoUSA)."
So I do roughly 2000 feet of climbing each day of commuting (over 16 miles of the total distance) 3-4 days a week. I didn't ride this weekend but last weekend did a 29 mile ride with 3500 feet of climbing. I can schedule a ride next weekend that is 40 miles with 9,000 feet of climbing or a 54 mile one with 6500 feet. But other than that I'll ride 4 days of 16 miles each way this week, and 3 days the week of ride.
So logically I figure I should be scaling back my goal but was wondering if any one has just "done it" on this kind of hard century without the "right" lead up, and how did it go?
So what do you all think, should I HTFU and just do the 100 miles and 10K of climbing or fess up on my training levels and give the 1/2 century a go?
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A century with nearly 10,000 ft and your longest ride is 36? Skip it!
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I'm looking for some advice as its time to make the decision now that I'm 2 weeks out and definitely under done in training. THis ride is my first century ride that is on my goals for the year. So should I go for the half century, using the logical 2X my normal ride formula, or just try and tough out the 100 miles even though the longest ride I've done in the last month is only 36 miles long?
The Century ride is the Mt. Davis Century here is a short description:
'The LHORBA Mt. Davis Century and Half Century is a fully supported ride that winds through the country roads of Somerset County. Starting south of Johnstown, the century passes near Jennerstown, through Somerset, Garret and Meyersdale before the Mt. Davis summit, and returns through Rockwood, Somerset, and Jenners. The half century follows the same route as the century simply starting and ending in Somerset. Both rides are somewhat hilly and both rides will reach their halfway points at the summit of Mt. Davis. Total climbing is just under 10,000’ for the century ride and about 5,500’ for the half century (calculated by TopoUSA)."
So I do roughly 2000 feet of climbing each day of commuting (over 16 miles of the total distance) 3-4 days a week. I didn't ride this weekend but last weekend did a 29 mile ride with 3500 feet of climbing. I can schedule a ride next weekend that is 40 miles with 9,000 feet of climbing or a 54 mile one with 6500 feet. But other than that I'll ride 4 days of 16 miles each way this week, and 3 days the week of ride.
So logically I figure I should be scaling back my goal but was wondering if any one has just "done it" on this kind of hard century without the "right" lead up, and how did it go?
So what do you all think, should I HTFU and just do the 100 miles and 10K of climbing or fess up on my training levels and give the 1/2 century a go?
The Century ride is the Mt. Davis Century here is a short description:
'The LHORBA Mt. Davis Century and Half Century is a fully supported ride that winds through the country roads of Somerset County. Starting south of Johnstown, the century passes near Jennerstown, through Somerset, Garret and Meyersdale before the Mt. Davis summit, and returns through Rockwood, Somerset, and Jenners. The half century follows the same route as the century simply starting and ending in Somerset. Both rides are somewhat hilly and both rides will reach their halfway points at the summit of Mt. Davis. Total climbing is just under 10,000’ for the century ride and about 5,500’ for the half century (calculated by TopoUSA)."
So I do roughly 2000 feet of climbing each day of commuting (over 16 miles of the total distance) 3-4 days a week. I didn't ride this weekend but last weekend did a 29 mile ride with 3500 feet of climbing. I can schedule a ride next weekend that is 40 miles with 9,000 feet of climbing or a 54 mile one with 6500 feet. But other than that I'll ride 4 days of 16 miles each way this week, and 3 days the week of ride.
So logically I figure I should be scaling back my goal but was wondering if any one has just "done it" on this kind of hard century without the "right" lead up, and how did it go?
So what do you all think, should I HTFU and just do the 100 miles and 10K of climbing or fess up on my training levels and give the 1/2 century a go?
06-22-08, 11:56 PM
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100 is going to hurt. I think you should go for the 54 this weekend and see if you feel up for the challenge or not. Is there a 100k option?
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If it's fully support with SAG vehicles, honestly what do you have to worry about? 10,000 ft of climbing is quite a hilly century, but if you got the motivation then go for it. If you can pull it off then that's awesome, I would defiantly recommend you try and get in at least a 50-60 mile ride in the next two weeks.
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I'd be worried about such a big jump in distance and climbing possibly causing an injury when you're not used to those distances yet... If you go for the 100, be careful to 'listen to your body.'
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I'm going to give it a shot
Thanks for the input on this decision. Here's what I'm going to do:
1) I registered for the 100 mile length. There are rest stops every 25 miles and the highest point is at the 50 mile mark so I'll take it in 25 mile increments and see where things end up. It is fully SAGed so we'll see.
2) I'm going to add an extra 15 miles to the ride home two days this week that will put me at ~45 miles for the day those two days.
3) I'll ride the 54 mile ride on Saturday and an easier 35-50 miles on Sunday. That will show me if I can make the full distance
4) The week of the event (next week) I'll do a long ride tuesday and 2 other days of commuting and then rest thursday and Friday to have fresh legs for Saturday.
I'm going up with a friend and should have a fair number of people to ride with and to suffer through. I'm pretty good at just getting things done so we'll see how this goes.
I'll let people know how the prep goes over the next week.
1) I registered for the 100 mile length. There are rest stops every 25 miles and the highest point is at the 50 mile mark so I'll take it in 25 mile increments and see where things end up. It is fully SAGed so we'll see.
2) I'm going to add an extra 15 miles to the ride home two days this week that will put me at ~45 miles for the day those two days.
3) I'll ride the 54 mile ride on Saturday and an easier 35-50 miles on Sunday. That will show me if I can make the full distance
4) The week of the event (next week) I'll do a long ride tuesday and 2 other days of commuting and then rest thursday and Friday to have fresh legs for Saturday.
I'm going up with a friend and should have a fair number of people to ride with and to suffer through. I'm pretty good at just getting things done so we'll see how this goes.
I'll let people know how the prep goes over the next week.
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Thanks for the input on this decision. Here's what I'm going to do:
1) I registered for the 100 mile length. There are rest stops every 25 miles and the highest point is at the 50 mile mark so I'll take it in 25 mile increments and see where things end up. It is fully SAGed so we'll see.
2) I'm going to add an extra 15 miles to the ride home two days this week that will put me at ~45 miles for the day those two days.
3) I'll ride the 54 mile ride on Saturday and an easier 35-50 miles on Sunday. That will show me if I can make the full distance
4) The week of the event (next week) I'll do a long ride tuesday and 2 other days of commuting and then rest thursday and Friday to have fresh legs for Saturday.
I'm going up with a friend and should have a fair number of people to ride with and to suffer through. I'm pretty good at just getting things done so we'll see how this goes.
I'll let people know how the prep goes over the next week.
1) I registered for the 100 mile length. There are rest stops every 25 miles and the highest point is at the 50 mile mark so I'll take it in 25 mile increments and see where things end up. It is fully SAGed so we'll see.
2) I'm going to add an extra 15 miles to the ride home two days this week that will put me at ~45 miles for the day those two days.
3) I'll ride the 54 mile ride on Saturday and an easier 35-50 miles on Sunday. That will show me if I can make the full distance
4) The week of the event (next week) I'll do a long ride tuesday and 2 other days of commuting and then rest thursday and Friday to have fresh legs for Saturday.
I'm going up with a friend and should have a fair number of people to ride with and to suffer through. I'm pretty good at just getting things done so we'll see how this goes.
I'll let people know how the prep goes over the next week.
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How do I add a poll? I actually wanted to use one on the front end but couldn't figure it out.
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Don't forget to post a ride report after the ride!
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If you finish the weekend rides you have scheduled, you'll be fine. Another general rule is you can comfortably do a long ride equal in distance to what you can do on a weekend.
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Update 1 on my "Just In Time" century prep
I extended my ride home today so I had a total of 43 miles for the day (13 in the Am and 30 on the way home). Total elevation gain of just shy of 2900 with all of it in the ride home. I had my heart rate monitor with me today and I only ended up pushing toward my max heart rate for about 15 minutes of the ride. I topped out at 172 bpm well shy of my max of 190 (stress tests are great). The rest of the ride was in a good comfortable zone of between 140-160 with the majority of the climbing right around 150. So that was good.
So operation "Billy Goat Clyde" is underway with a good start. I'll be interested to see how the legs feel tomorrow.
I extended my ride home today so I had a total of 43 miles for the day (13 in the Am and 30 on the way home). Total elevation gain of just shy of 2900 with all of it in the ride home. I had my heart rate monitor with me today and I only ended up pushing toward my max heart rate for about 15 minutes of the ride. I topped out at 172 bpm well shy of my max of 190 (stress tests are great). The rest of the ride was in a good comfortable zone of between 140-160 with the majority of the climbing right around 150. So that was good.
So operation "Billy Goat Clyde" is underway with a good start. I'll be interested to see how the legs feel tomorrow.
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Update 1 on my "Just In Time" century prep
I extended my ride home today so I had a total of 43 miles for the day (13 in the Am and 30 on the way home). Total elevation gain of just shy of 2900 with all of it in the ride home. I had my heart rate monitor with me today and I only ended up pushing toward my max heart rate for about 15 minutes of the ride. I topped out at 172 bpm well shy of my max of 190 (stress tests are great). The rest of the ride was in a good comfortable zone of between 140-160 with the majority of the climbing right around 150. So that was good.
So operation "Billy Goat Clyde" is underway with a good start. I'll be interested to see how the legs feel tomorrow.
I extended my ride home today so I had a total of 43 miles for the day (13 in the Am and 30 on the way home). Total elevation gain of just shy of 2900 with all of it in the ride home. I had my heart rate monitor with me today and I only ended up pushing toward my max heart rate for about 15 minutes of the ride. I topped out at 172 bpm well shy of my max of 190 (stress tests are great). The rest of the ride was in a good comfortable zone of between 140-160 with the majority of the climbing right around 150. So that was good.
So operation "Billy Goat Clyde" is underway with a good start. I'll be interested to see how the legs feel tomorrow.
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Kudos to ya for thinking about it. But, it's not about intensity (as HR measures). It's about endurance (distance and elevation gained over that distance). Plus, even though you did 43-miles for the day, it was really more like a 35-miler because it was split into two rides. You need to get in an 80-miler (stopping only briefly to re-fuel) with 7,500-8,000 feet of climbing soon, or you will suffer (hence my request for pics.) Just being honest.
I expect to suffer regardless of if its the 50 or the 100 distance. But until I'm a wreck from the shorter rides this weekend I will continue to hope I can pull this off. Who knows maybe I can find my inner Stuart O'Grady.
But I will try and remember to pack the camara to take some pictures and have some before during and after pictures taken of me as well.
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if you commute regularly i think you may be surprised at how much you can do...at the same time that 10,000 number would be scaring me if i were you. too bad there is no 64 (100k) option.
you said 50 miles was the high point? what does it look like after that? if it si mostly down hill and you do all the climbing in the first 50 maybe you can make a go at it. liek someone siad, it is supported so what do you have to lose.
you said 50 miles was the high point? what does it look like after that? if it si mostly down hill and you do all the climbing in the first 50 maybe you can make a go at it. liek someone siad, it is supported so what do you have to lose.
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One other note keep in mind it is a RIDE not a RACE if its distance your after. If people walk the climbs faster than you ride them so what you want to finish the 100 you can do it but remember pace pace pace
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One key fact that you mentioned is it looks like you can sign up for the 100, then when you get to that cut-off point, you can switch to the 50. That's what I'd do, sign up for the longer one, and see how I felt when I got to that point. If you're whacked, then you'll know not to go farther, and if you're feeling like superman, go for it.
On the Ride vs Race thing- that's true. But also, they do close the courses at a certain time, and there is a limit to how slow you can go and still have SAG all the way.
On the Ride vs Race thing- that's true. But also, they do close the courses at a certain time, and there is a limit to how slow you can go and still have SAG all the way.
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if you commute regularly i think you may be surprised at how much you can do...at the same time that 10,000 number would be scaring me if i were you. too bad there is no 64 (100k) option.
you said 50 miles was the high point? what does it look like after that? if it si mostly down hill and you do all the climbing in the first 50 maybe you can make a go at it. liek someone siad, it is supported so what do you have to lose.
you said 50 miles was the high point? what does it look like after that? if it si mostly down hill and you do all the climbing in the first 50 maybe you can make a go at it. liek someone siad, it is supported so what do you have to lose.
https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=F...2e45e967&hl=en
I think the 10K number is scary. But we'll see how it goes. Looks like i'll get in that 75-80 mile ride this weekend. That will be a fun time.
Here is the map of the ride:
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Here is the cue sheet
https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=F...2e45e967&hl=en
I think the 10K number is scary. But we'll see how it goes. Looks like i'll get in that 75-80 mile ride this weekend. That will be a fun time.
Here is the map of the ride:
https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=F...2e45e967&hl=en
I think the 10K number is scary. But we'll see how it goes. Looks like i'll get in that 75-80 mile ride this weekend. That will be a fun time.
Here is the map of the ride: