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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 11-03-08, 10:20 AM   #26
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agave nectar
Yea, preferably the blue stuff, after its been fermented and distilled a few times.

Seriously, the sugar substitutes are formulated to bind to the same receptors that sugar binds to on the taste buds. So when they do that, they will trigger all the same reactions that sugar does (production and secretion of enzymes that digest carbohydrates, etc). So there is some truth to the bit about insulin production and all that. As for the substitutes being better for you, I don't think so. The digestive system has evolved to break down naturally occurring compounds, synthetics don't sit well.

Now, keep in mind, I don't like supplements. Athletes, in general, have the worlds most expensive urine, and I work with enough of them to know. Eating a balanced diet of real food (this means that a can opener, a box, the microwave and the freezer door are usually not involved; pots, pans, the stove, the oven, and the grill almost always are), containing mostly complex carbohydrates from plants and whole grains, a smaller quantity of protein and dairy, and a little lipid, will do more than all the supplement you get from GNC.

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I've made up a nice nightshade casserole - like some?
Sure, what kind of tomatoes did you use? For those who just got lost, tomatoes are in the nightshade family of plants, and were thought to be poisonous until about 100-200 years ago.

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Yea, preferably the blue stuff, after its been fermented and distilled a few times.

Seriously, the sugar substitutes are formulated to bind to the same receptors that sugar binds to on the taste buds. So when they do that, they will trigger all the same reactions that sugar does (production and secretion of enzymes that digest carbohydrates, etc). So there is some truth to the bit about insulin production and all that. As for the substitutes being better for you, I don't think so. The digestive system has evolved to break down naturally occurring compounds, synthetics don't sit well.

Now, keep in mind, I don't like supplements. Athletes, in general, have the worlds most expensive urine, and I work with enough of them to know. Eating a balanced diet of real food (this means that a can opener, a box, the microwave and the freezer door are usually not involved; pots, pans, the stove, the oven, and the grill almost always are), containing mostly complex carbohydrates from plants and whole grains, a smaller quantity of protein and dairy, and a little lipid, will do more than all the supplement you get from GNC.


Sure, what kind of tomatoes did you use? For those who just got lost, tomatoes are in the nightshade family of plants, and were thought to be poisonous until about 100-200 years ago.

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Really, a reasonable amount of a food that contains natural sugars is better for you, then ANY amount of any sugar substitute. The closer a food is to the natural state, the better it is for you, now some foods need some processing -- meats for example need to be treated with heat to eliminate bacteria -- if something doesn't taste good without adding copious amounts of sugar or sugar substitute, then perhaps you should avoid it.

The problem with the typical Americanized diet, is that it counts too much on processed foods, and that processing often includes adding large amounts of sugar, these days represented by highly processed syrup made from corn.
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