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    Properly leveling Avatar Gel saddle?

    I've had ongoing issues with tingling/numbness. I had my sit bones measured and it turns out that according to the ass-o-meter my stock saddle was too narrow. I've since bought this 155mm Avatar Gel, but it hasn't completely cured the problem. I've been tinkering a bit, too, with horizontal positioning, seat post height, etc, so the leveling has inevitably been inconsistent. Mainly I'm not sure just what I should consider level.

    In any case, is this what you would consider level for this saddle? This as illustrated in the photo or should I tilt it downward to compensate for the elevated padding at the back?

    Last edited by imeridian; 11-11-08 at 05:51 PM. Reason: grammar, clarification

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    I have a Selle Italia Flite on the road bike, and a Brooks Swift on the touring bike.
    I run both with the nose about 1cm lower than than the rear.

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    I run my Avatar slightly nose up.

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    Ok, well, thanks for the responses.

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    I like my saddle pointed down a little bit too. It puts a little more pressure on my hands, but my hands can take it better than "the boys". I just move my hands around on the bars more often.
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    So far so good with the saddle level as per the photograph. I rode 3.4 miles and wasn't suddenly tingly once I got off the bike. That's plenty of distance/time for the tingly to present itself. I think it may actually have been more a matter of moving the seat forward more, it seems I may have been inadvertently sliding forward to help shorten the reach to the handlebars (as a result of misunderstanding KOPS I believe I had the saddle back too far).

    My reasoning for posting this question was to ascertain just which level is considered level, as that's the advice given in every saddle/numbness thread, but which is also never defined for cases where the saddle itself isn't flat.

    To me the photo looks like the seat is angled upwards, especially if you look at the rails, but as is apparent it is level front to back. I just want to know, for the sake of having a starting point, common ground, etc, if others view that saddle as level or angled up. I realize it's a matter of personal preference and comfort as to if a saddle is angled upward or downward, but it doesn't appear as though we have any baseline reference for what level actually is to compare that angle to.
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    leveling is personal preference.. lower tilt puts more pressure on your hands.. slight upward tilt takes that pressure off your hands.. I personally like a slight upward tilt..

    You will need to experiment a little to find the sweet spot..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antelope 70cm View Post
    I run my Avatar slightly nose up.
    Same here, I have my Avatar slight up hill. I always felt like I was sliding off when it was level.
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    ...so do you consider the photo above to be level? lol

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    The question was about our own personal preferences, but whether or not after looking at the picture presented we feel the saddle is level.

    My answer is yes, it is definitely level.
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    Sorry I meant to say the question was NOT about our personal preferences.
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    Yay! Thank you!

    I really wasn't trying to make it a trick question, but perhaps the simplicity of the question caused it to appear to be much more complicated than intended, lol.

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    It may be easier to level the saddle by placing a flat object on top (a hardback book) and then using the level. That way you don't have to guess which part of the saddle the level should sit on. If you're comfortable then that may not be necessary, but it's probably a better way of assessing level-ness.

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    The hardback book is a good idea, thanks for the suggestion.

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