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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 12-07-08, 09:07 AM   #1
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Whats the best 700c X 25 size tire for a Clyde?

I've been using a 700c X 28 Gatorskin tires with good results now that I inflate them to 100 psi twice a week to help eliminate pinch flats. These tires are a bit heavy for my smooth pavement fun rides.

As a reward for dropping down to 220 lbs, I'm combining a higher end 32 spoke wheel set with a skinny tire to add enjoyment to my faster rides. What tire would you recommend?

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Old 12-07-08, 09:18 AM   #2
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Nothing wrong with a gatorskin in that size. I ride them myself and I'm 15 lbs. shy of where your at.
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I'd stick with the 28mm and just run 'em a little harder. I have 28mm Conti UGs on my distance bike and I run them at 115psi. They're fast, but more forgiving than a 23 or 25mm.

I've got 25mm Conti UGs on my fixie, and I'm not fond of them. (but I can't fit 28mm tires on that bike)
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700x25 Michelin Lithions

I'm WAYYYY over your weight, and I've never had a pinch flat.
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I'm at 209 and running GP 4000 700x25 at 105 psi for both weekend training runs and dry commuting. They work great.
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I'm 240ish & ride Hutchinson Fusion Comp 700x23 @ 120 psi. The roll nice & are reasonably priced.

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=5420
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I have 2600 miles on my 700*28's Bontrager Race Lite Hardcase on my hybrid. I have had so much success with them, I put the 700*25's on my road bike. I easily have another 1000 to 1500 miles on my 28's and I am 299 lbs.
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When I started at about 250 lbs. I was concerned about my weight and which tire to use so I went with Armadillos. No flats in 2+ years and 2,500 miles. (I don't count the spoke tape that moved and caused 5 flats in a week. That's not tire or hazard related. At 220 lbs I decided to make a change and went to Conti 4000s tires and I love them. It was like having a new bike. Still no flats. I realized that I was probably over thinking things and worrying about non-existent problems. If you get a good durable tire and keep it properly inflated, being a clyde isn't a tire issue. Just enjoy riding and stop over thinking things. Good luck.
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I have 2600 miles on my 700*28's Bontrager Race Lite Hardcase on my hybrid. I have had so much success with them, I put the 700*25's on my road bike. I easily have another 1000 to 1500 miles on my 28's and I am 299 lbs.
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I'm at 209 and running GP 4000 700x25 at 105 psi for both weekend training runs and dry commuting. They work great.
2nd the Conti 4000 and also recommend the Vittoria Rubino Pro's.. Best place to buy the 4000's is..

www.probikekit.com

http://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=Y2081
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Isn't 100psi a little on the low side?

I run 700x23 Vittoria Zaffiro Pros at 130psi and love them. Only one flat in the last 1100 miles which was my fault anyways.
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If you like the Gatorskins, buy a lighter version of the same tire: try either the Continental Grand Prix 4-Season or the Grand Prix 4000 depending on how much weight you want to save and how much durability you're willing to sacrifice.
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The Vredestein Fortezza Tricomp 700x25 are my favorite. I have tried a lot of diffrent
brands and I like these. They roll smooth, resist flats and good to look at. These
tires also come in a good selection of colors too. There may be other brands that are just
as good or better, but these work for me.
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As alternatives to the Gatorskins that are regarded as being somewhat heavy thereby restricting performance somewhat, I suggest 2 tires. One is the Challenge Parigi-Roubaix that is 700x27 and the Vittoria Open Pave Evo CG that is 700x24. These tires are not cheaper than the Gatorskins. They are more expensive and more performance oriented. Categorically, they are 'open tubulars' meaning that they are constructed following the same process as a tubular but unlike a tubular they are kept open. A kevlar bead is attached to their edge so they can fit clincher rims. Being constructed like a tubular, they have a high tpi count (threads per inch) and characteristically are very supple. The tires are built with puncture protection but are not as heavy as the Gatorskins. They can be used on rougher road surfaces. The tubular version of the Vittoria Open Pave is used on the cobblestones of the Paris-Roubaix road race. I have yet to try these tires myself but one of these brands will likely be my next tire purchase.
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The Vittoria Paves are a great tire.. Soft, fast and definitely good in the durability category.. They run about 60-70.00 each so they can be a little pricey to train on..
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I'm 275 lbs, and have been on Hutchinson Top Speed Kevlars all this year, doing over 3,000 miles and no flats. They are affordable [around $18 on sale] and come in both 23 and 25mm widths. I run the 25's at around 100lbs and they do fine. There are better riding tires, but durability is my main concern.
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Isn't 100psi a little on the low side?

I run 700x23 Vittoria Zaffiro Pros at 130psi and love them. Only one flat in the last 1100 miles which was my fault anyways.
This post has a pretty good formula that I've found useful:

tire pressure?
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This post has a pretty good formula that I've found useful:

tire pressure?
Thanks for posting that!

Runs numbers...

Yep, thats in the ballpark. Handy formula to have in case you can't read your tire's sidewall.
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Okay, so I'm 240lbs and about 260lbs with my backpack. So according to the formula, I should be inflating my 23's to 139psi!!?? Won't they blow right off the rims? I'd be afraid to pump them up. I'm running 125psi (sidewall max) rear, and about 120 front. This is my first road bike, so I know nothing. The ride is stiff, but I'm worried about pinch flats. I wanna switch to something larger -- '07 Specialized Sequoia -- but the folks at Specialized said 28's are max. It looks so tight I'm not sure 28's will fit, but, I'm clueless.
Do people inflate way over the sidewall max?
Would 25's be a better way to go, or should I stuff 28's in there? I commute over some wicked bad urban streets (Oakland, CA), but I still want to go smooth and fast. Would the 28's slow me waaay down, or would it be barely noticeable? I'm kinda thinking that 25's would be a good compromise; better ride but still be fast rolling. What's the advice?

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The best performing tire would be the vittoria open pave available at totalcycling.com for $37.31. A good performing tire with great puncture protection would be the michellin krylion carbon for $19.24 at probikekit.com
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As alternatives to the Gatorskins that are regarded as being somewhat heavy thereby restricting performance somewhat, I suggest 2 tires. One is the Challenge Parigi-Roubaix that is 700x27 and the Vittoria Open Pave Evo CG that is 700x24. These tires are not cheaper than the Gatorskins. They are more expensive and more performance oriented. Categorically, they are 'open tubulars' meaning that they are constructed following the same process as a tubular but unlike a tubular they are kept open. A kevlar bead is attached to their edge so they can fit clincher rims. Being constructed like a tubular, they have a high tpi count (threads per inch) and characteristically are very supple. The tires are built with puncture protection but are not as heavy as the Gatorskins. They can be used on rougher road surfaces. The tubular version of the Vittoria Open Pave is used on the cobblestones of the Paris-Roubaix road race. I have yet to try these tires myself but one of these brands will likely be my next tire purchase.
I'm riding Veloflex tires (handmade open tubulars) on one of my bikes. They are the best-riding tire I've ever owned. The bad thing about open tubulars is that they don't last very long.
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Great info, Thanks everyone. The handmade open tubular look ideal for my intended use.

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The best performing tire would be the vittoria open pave available at totalcycling.com for $37.31. A good performing tire with great puncture protection would be the michellin krylion carbon for $19.24 at probikekit.com
Krylions are no more, Michelin discontinued them this year.
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At 230-240lbsa I have no problem running 700x23 GP4000S or Gatorskins. Gatorskins are cheaper and wear longer, GP4000S are a tad lighter, roll better, are a bit more grippy, but wear faster.
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The Vittoria Paves are a great tire.. Soft, fast and definitely good in the durability category.. They run about 60-70.00 each so they can be a little pricey to train on..

I was just looking at these on wiggle.co.uk and they are only $35.
Those UK sites even make it possible to ride tubulars again without needing to make my wife get a 2nd job!
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