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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 12-20-08, 07:48 AM   #1
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Picking a new saddle.

I think I have narrowed down my choice to a few saddles.

Specialized Toupe Gel
Specialized Allianz
Specalized Toupe

Any clydes have any experience with any of these three saddles. I am not set in stone on any of these but I like the sporty look that they have. I have considered a Brooks as well, not so sure about the break in idea though.

Any info is appreciated.
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Old 12-20-08, 08:14 AM   #2
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I tried the Toupe and the Allianz and I didn't care for either one.
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Old 12-20-08, 08:26 AM   #3
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If I recall correctly, your bikes all have Brooks saddles? It is so tempting to buy one from nashbar they are 79.99 and a 10% discount. Also if I decide I do not like it, it can always be sold at a price close to what i pay for it.
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I have a Brooks saddle on my touring bike, but I have the Fizik Arione on my road bike. When I got measured at the Specialized bike shop with there meter, it showed where I should have a 143mm wide saddle. So I bought the Toupe and man did that wear the inside of my crotch raw. The Alias was on the bike as an upgrade that I also made. I'm sorry, I read the type of the saddle wrong, I did not have the Allianz. Anyway I tried the Fizik Arione and the minute I sat on it I knew that was the one and it's only 130mm wide. After putting it on the bike I went 50 miles and came back smiling.
I had a Brooks saddle with 5000 miles on it and it broke. I also had a pretty hard time breaking it in. I decided to try another one and to my surprise it worked right out of the box. I put it back as far as it would go and tilted the nose up 1.5cm and the thing is great. I really cant believe it myself.

Anyway good luck with the new bike and I know how hard it is to get a saddle that works, good luck there as well. I got the B17 Special from Jensen and I think it was $89. I dont buy from Preformance or Nashbar anymore because they charge tax and shipping, so I don't go there anymore.
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Old 12-20-08, 09:10 AM   #5
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the store that i go to has the fizik, I also see a lot of roadies with that saddle. I think that may also be another good option.
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Just because it works for one person, another may hate it. Good luck with your purchase!!!
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I have the Toupe on my Roubaix Pro. It's comfortable. I've ridden numerous centuries with no problems. I'm about 215 lbs.
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i've been checking ebay for deals, if i buy something i'm afraid to pay full price to turn around and not be able to return it.
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Old 12-20-08, 09:49 AM   #9
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The Toupe is pretty hard. I didn't like it. I have the next model down, whatever it is. The shop had a device that gets a pretty good idea of how wide your sit bones are and makes it easier to select the right width saddle.
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Old 12-20-08, 10:51 AM   #10
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I bought, and quickly returned, a Toupe Gel from my LBS. After one 20-mile ride, I had saddle sores for the first time! They put me out of commission for a week! Needless to say, I thought the saddle was a complete piece of junk...

The only saddle I've found that I really liked is the Selle SMP Strike Extra. Performance Bike has them for $110, but they're usually on sale for $99 or less. Use eBay if you want a color other than black. When I bought my new bike frame, I was tempted to upgrade to a lighter, more expensive Selle SMP but decided it wasn't worth the risk to shave another 100-150g off the bike. In any event, I highly recommend the Strike Extra especially when compared to the Specialied Toupe Gel!
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Old 12-20-08, 02:32 PM   #11
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This is frustrating lol, i guess in a good way, I did a 62 mile ride yesterday and the last 10 miles my rear was on fire. Everything else felt great, but once my rear caught fire it messed up my rhythm and i was fidgiting a lot. In turn i started to get fautigued in one leg cause i'd kinda lean to one side or the other.
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Old 12-20-08, 10:54 PM   #12
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A good LBS will let you try it and return it if you don't like it. Can work out much cheaper then ebay. Also, as mentioned above, saddles are a very personal thing. There's no one right answer.
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Old 12-20-08, 10:56 PM   #13
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Man, I've tried so many seats I just about gave up! I've finally got a couple I like. I have a Terry Fly on my MTB and a kuips softer(can't find one on the net, bought it in a group off ebay and it's the only one that worked - go figure!)on my road bike. I have a Specialized that I tried, but it rubbed me raw. Good luck in the search!
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If you can do 50 miles before you start burning, maybe you don't need a new saddle yet. Maybe stand a little more or lower your saddle a few mm. Could be worth a try anyhow, good luck.
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I have played with saddle height and have not had much success. I'm committed to changing just not sure which replacement. I'm gonna go to my LBS and see what they say about demoing some saddles.
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Here in Tucson we have a place called Tri Sports. They offer what they call "Tri before you buy" for saddles. There is a fee for it, but most of it goes toward a saddle if you buy one.

They seem to actually do more online business that local business. If you can't find a local shop that will help you out, you can check them out.
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thanks thats a great link, and definately worth trying out.
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The seat on my Fujin SL2 is completely pain free: http://www.angletechcycles.com/bikes...base/index.htm

But they are pricey.

A lower cost pain free option is here: http://www.bacchettabikes.com/recumb...s/giro20tt.htm

Wedgie seat pain is a choice, not a necessity.
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Here in Tucson we have a place called Tri Sports. They offer what they call "Tri before you buy" for saddles. There is a fee for it, but most of it goes toward a saddle if you buy one.
Competitive Cyclist has a program where they'll ship you a bunch of saddles, let you ride them for a week, then you ship them back. If you buy a saddle from them, they credit some portion of the fee you pay for the demo toward the cost of the new saddle. I recall thinking the program was expensive ($75?) and the credit was a bit low ($35?) but if your LBS doesn't want to help with demos it might not be a bad way to go.

Or you can do what I did: buy several saddles from Performance Bike, test them all, then return the ones you don't like...
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Old 12-28-08, 07:24 PM   #20
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I'm looking at a Brooks B67 for my Hardrock Pro. Any of you guys tried one?
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I looked at saddles for around 2 years. I couldnt find one that would be good for more than 30 miles.and I had a whole box full of tried saddles too.so I decided to get a fitting done. they had a sadle pad, to find your sit bones.when he measured my sit bones he said I was very close to the division betwen one size and th next larger one. so, I tried it and purchased an inform r for around $70.00 after a week I went back and told the guy that did my fit I was still getting a little pain . he took back the original saddle and gave me the next size wider one. and it fits like a dream. I have done a century on it and never get the pain like I used to. and no more sores! sincethat first one I now have the inform rl at $100.00 and its even more comfortable and worth every penny.
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Old 12-28-08, 07:46 PM   #22
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i was measured by a specialized dealer and bought a team toupe, i had a fever and body aches so didn't get to ride friday, and worked all weekend. Monday and Tuesday i'm gonna go for 100k each day.
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good luck, hope it works out for you. rididng without a pain in the .... posteriour, is a wonderful experience. you will love it
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The Toupe came with my Tarmac. I just couldn't get used to it so I went with the Avatar which I rode with all of this year. I may try and switch back to the Toupe now that I've been riding more.
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Old 12-29-08, 02:20 PM   #25
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first long ride today and the saddle didn't cause any issues, i'm gonna cut down a little on tomorrows ride and do 45 miles. I'm a tad sore today, but usually feel that way 30 minutes after a real long ride.
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