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    Triathlon in my future??? flip18436572's Avatar
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    Merry Christmas LBS

    I took my bike in for service on Saturday, and they did a lot of work for me and discounted some of the parts and labor for me. I try and do this right before Christmas, to give them a little business before Christmas, and to also drop off some 12 oz. presents. This year has been a very poor year for me, but here is what they received from me yesterday.

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    What have you done for your LBS lately??????
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    There is only one guy that works on my bike at the LBS and I took him a six pack of Fat Tire last week. Fat Tire is my favorite beer, but I think in this case it is especially appropriate.

    It is always good to take care of the people who take care of you.

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    I like that idea and the tip of the hat to you. The owner of my little shop here really struggles to keep the doors open. I had mentioned that I wanted to try other brand bikes out before deciding on the Specialized Roubauix as my next road bike. He offered his entire markup to make NOTHING on the bike to keep my business. Man, how can you NOT be a little loyal to the LBS. I do get a 10% across the board discount on any merchandise including the bike.
    So, I ordered my 09 Specialized Roubaix from him and told him that 10% would be a fair enough discount.
    I don't think my LBS folks drink. Anybody has other suggestions? I though about eating establishment gift certificates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gapwedge View Post
    I don't think my LBS folks drink. Anybody has other suggestions? I though about eating establishment gift certificates.
    I have taken cookies that my wife baked. I Did it for two reasons. 1) The took care of me and I wanted to take care of them. 2) I didn't want the cookies lying around I would have eaten them myself.

    I imagine they would like something to nibble on while they are working. Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by </intolerance> View Post
    I have taken cookies that my wife baked. I Did it for two reasons. 1) The took care of me and I wanted to take care of them. 2) I didn't want the cookies lying around I would have eaten them myself.

    I imagine they would like something to nibble on while they are working. Just a thought.
    Great idea. Just baked some chocolate chip for them. I will deliver them tomorrow.
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    During the summer, I drop off our vegetables from our little garden. We dropped off tomatos, squash, cucumbers, green peppers and some rhubarb. The owner was happy, but I am not sure if he was able to keep it all to himself or not.

    Try a fruit type basket or something similar. Just an idea.
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    I bought some tools and a new computer, both probably have a decent mark-up but I like this idea of giving away our extra Christmas cookies. My wife and I spent most the weekend baking and even after giving tins of cookies to our neighboors we still have 11 dozen cookies left over.

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    I tipped my LBS guy $20.00 for his great service, he inspired me to get a road bike, when i thought i was to fat for it. Helped me and continues to help me everytime i walk in the store.

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    I need to do the same for mine. There are a couple guys there who are downright stellar, and do great work. I'm off work tomorrow at noon, maybe I'll take the LHT and throw a 12-er on the rack for them

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    Great Idea. Yesterday, I dropped a C-Note on a set of Kenda small block eight mtn bike tires and other gee gaws. I feel the same way about giving them the biz during the Xmas push. But I had not thought about the tip. Shame on me. They treat me really well. I need to reward, beyond my commerce.

    I am gonna bake some brownies and wrap a 6-Pack of Becks and walk in tomorrow. I figure that way I am covered if any of them are on 12 Steps.

    Thanks for the idea.

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    I took my LBS a bag of goodies from Trader Joes - they loved them. I think they appreciated my picking up and paying for my wifes new Sequoia also.
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    $20 tip to a guy that built my rear tandem wheel but slipped in 3 POS spokes that broke after I specifically ordered DT Swiss. Fixed it myself.

    $10 tip to the guy that installed my BB incorrectly. My buddy fixed it fer me!

    $26 tip to the guy that swapped components on my Lemond. Installed the headset incorrectly. Fixed it myself. Same guy charged me for new cables. Turns out one was kinked and wouldn't shift properly. My bud fixed that too.


    My bud is a mechanic at a shop that does great work. Think I'm done wasting my time and money going to shops, paying for service and tipping a bunch of half arsed mechanics at high end shops! I'm staying with my bud now, he's a real mechanic.


    The guy that built the tandem wheel moved to another highend shop. The shop was closed when I took the wheel back. SURPRISE on me! He's a highly rec'd mechanic and wheel builder in another forum. Believe me, when his buds point others towrds his services, I alert them of his shotty work with the intent of saving them some mone too! ...Guy has been nothing but problems but I kept thinking he was just having a bad day. Too many bad days is just unacceptable!

    If you find a good one, stick with him!

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    If you have a bud that is a good mechanic and is your friend, why would you go anywhere else in the first place????

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesspal View Post
    If you have a bud that is a good mechanic and is your friend, why would you go anywhere else in the first place????

    He worked at the shop with some of the others I mentioned. He left the biz for a couple of years so I wasted big money on the other dopes trying to find a good one. That's when I started building my own wheels cause the others sucked. Then my bud returned to the biz and I was back in shape!

    Only thing he does is the crank/BB and rebuild hubs, the tools I don't have. I do everything else now! I can't justify buying BB tools when I'll need i once every 5 years.

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    Sometimes I do wonder if riders know enough to know what is and isn't good service. One bud bought a baarnd new Specialized carbonfiber roadie. He had it for 4 months then got excited cause his LBS suggested a major tuneup. He did have a free 90 day tune up! Major tune was only $100 which included repacking the hub bearings and lubing the chain. Uhhh, what wheel needs new grease at 4 months? Pretty sure they ripped him by lubing his chain!

    Another bud paid $100 for his and his wife's bike for detailed tuneups. We were riding an his wife mentioned that she was having problems keeping her balance on her bike. She thought she was coming down with a cold!....She mentioned she felt like somthing kept pulling her to the side. I looked at her rear wheel after the mentioned the major tuneup, including the wheels. Her rear wheel was wearing way towards the side of the wheel !

    I looked at it and found that the dishing was way off. The tire was nearly rubbing on the chainstay! They took it back for repair and I was correct in my diagnosis. One benifit of being doing inspection for a living!..The shop was a bit embarrassed and our friends not so excited about the shop! 200 bucks!

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    So if we do get good service should we not tip? I was taught that it is good etiquette to tip when receiving very good service. I may not be a bike mechanic but i do know when someone makes a customer feel appreciated.

    Sounds like i'm the dumb one?

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    I get good service from my LBS and they received the case of Fat Tire and during the summer they get fresh veggies from our garden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jesspal View Post
    So if we do get good service should we not tip? I was taught that it is good etiquette to tip when receiving very good service. I may not be a bike mechanic but i do know when someone makes a customer feel appreciated.

    Sounds like i'm the dumb one?
    Kind of a tough one. Nice to be appreciated so a tip is nice. I do tip but have been let down by the end results. Best thing to do is "do it yourself". Too many times I walked out happy cause the dude made me feel appreciated and my wheels were straight. But I did'nt know that the wheels needed tension, only resulted in spoke breakage soon after.

    The more a rider gets involved, the more he reallizes that the best way to have a sweet running bike is DIYS!...Ever notice the guys that do their own maintenance are the guys that do mile after mile, day after day but always seem to have a nice quiet smooth and sweet running bike? I've had friends with highend stuff ($9,000 rigs) but real noisey out of tune. First words out of their mouths are," Gee, I need to take it back into the shop"

    Just the other day I snuck up behind a rider from the Socal forum and took his pic. He posted " MR B must use ninja lube on his bike cause I had no idea he was there". I'm tellin' ya!

    Bike mechanics are VERY easy! Most builders say wheelbuilding is an ART?.... More common sense and little attention does the trick. My first wheel is still on the road after 17,000 miles!.. Have had an artist at the local shop build the same wheel, same components, same spokes that didn't last 40 miles.

    It's all business. Mke you feel appreciated so that you return and pay big money for simple beginner mechanics. No big secret involved. One guy wanted over $600 to upgrade my bike to Dura Ace. I bought the parts myself along with the tools. Upgraded myself rfor $325 and that included the tools, and I still got them!

    If you any riders, most will be more than willing to help ro teach you basic mechanics. I've stopped for other riders on the roadside. Showed them the simple principles of the components. Most are shocked. I've told the stor before, I was on a century with a double century rider. He had a high end rig freshout of his FAVORITE shop. He ws so proud of his rig. He had traveled 2 hours to get to the ride.

    40 miles into the ride he realized he had rear der problems. He tried to adjust but only got frustrated as he knew nuttin' about the bike. He actually picked up his bike and threatened to toss it in the road. Then picked up the cell to have his wife drive 2 hours to pick him up. He was mad:

    I calmy talked down and said "lemme see or bike". Did the basic turn the barrel till the chain rubs up against the next biggest cog. Then backed it off an 1/8 of a turn. VOILA! Within 15 seconds, he was back on the road. He would have prolly spend $50 a the shop for adjustments, but felt appreciated!. I've done this many times! If only guys would take the time to understand the very simple mechanics!

    I've seen posters pay $400 for Mavic Op's. $400 for a set of Deep V's.

    I picked up a rim on a clearance rack for $25. Built it up with an Ultegra hub I had laying around, and $20 for spokes. $50!...They charge $100 at some shops for the build alone after you provide the materials.

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    I do most of my work myself, but my bike is still in the two year free service, so I take it to him twice a year. I would bet my bike has more miles on it than most of the road bikes he sells. When I told him the mileage he about flipped.

    I will do all of my work when I run out of warranty in June of 2009, but I will still recommend him to people to purchase a bike. I am also trying to start a duathlon and triathlon events in our small town and hope to use him as one of the sponsors for both events. He also rides a Triumph Speed Triple, so that is a plus in my book also.
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