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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 01-03-09, 10:58 PM   #1
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Bike advice needed

Hi all,

I have a couple of questions that I need some input on.

First, I have been back into riding again since July on a Trek 7.5 FX. It's a nice bike and OK to ride, but after riding more than 20 miles or so, I find that it gets uncomfortable. I only have one real hand position. Also, It feels like I should either be bent over closer to the handle bars or sitting more upright. It feels like it is OK to ride for short periods of time, but not for long trips. Do you think I would be happier on a road bike? Also, is a road bike that much faster than a hybrid?

Second, if I do buy a road bike, do you think I should buy new or used? I like to work on things and tinker. I wouldn't have any problem taking a used bike, tearing it down, and rebuilding it. I think I would actually enjoy it and learn a lot from it too. Money is also a factor too and I know that I would get more bang for my buck buying used since someone else already took that initial hit from depreciation. Either way, I would need to keep it under $1000 total.

Thanks for the input.
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Yep, a roadie will be faster than a hybrid. That being said, is speed what your after, or a more comfortable position? Then again, no ever really needs a reason to get a new bike, lol.

Have you considered changing the stem on your Trek? It might help with feeling stuck betweeen being not stretched out enough and too up right. Another idea is Trekking bars. JTGYK just added some to a bike and they are pretty comfy to ride with it seems. Lots and lots of hand position options. Of course, barends can help as well.

If you are comfortable with maybe doing a little work, and patient enough to wait on a deal that fits you physically and finacially, you will get a lot more bike buying used than buying new. Of course, there are left over 08 models to had at some decent prices right now too.

I looked at some Felt 90's and 85;s that were left over 08's and they were both around $650. they are Sora and Tiagra mixed componenet groups, and you had a choice of of a triple or a double for cranks. I'm sure there are comparable deals out there on other models and manufatcurers as well.

Craigs List and possibly e-Bay are good choices for looking at used. If you go the eBay route, it's very important to make sure you know your size in that particular bike since you are buying without riding. A good option is to search for only bikes in your area on the "Bay". Some LBS sell used bikes as well. In my area, the pricing on them can be hit or miss. In most cases I find the marked prices to be a bit high, but the shop will probably deal when cash is in hand to be spent.

Now is the time to buy used and left over new Road bikes. It's winter and everyone is "lobbing the holy handgrenade*" at their new ride, which oputs their old ride on the market.

*Lobbing The Holy Handgrenade is a replacement for the tired, "Pulling the Trigger".
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Old 01-04-09, 06:39 AM   #3
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You will be more comfortable in the long run, on long rides, if your weight is distributed properly (ie. not all on your butt, but not all on your hands either), and if your back is not upright. It doesn't matter what kind of bike you ride, but usually a road bike is more suited for longer riding. Note that I said "road bike", not necessarily a racing bike.

It always feels unusual and funny to be "bent over", but once you get over that, it's really the only way to ride a bicycle for longer distances and frequent rides.
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I just recently went to 700 X 28 tires.
They add to Your Comfort, as they absorb the bumps and pot holes much better then the 23's and 25's.
I have back problems which the bent over and 28's have helped the back pain.
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I know when I went looking for a bike, I wanted a roadie and not a hybrid. All of the bike shops, but one, pushed me towards a hybrid, as they thought that is what I wanted even though I told them different. I am really glad I went for a road bike, because it is really what I wanted and I like the multiple hand positions, and I have other goals besides weight loss and the road bike makes it easier.

If you don't have the money for a new bike, look locally for used. There are always people selling used bikes. Check your local craigslist, as it is always full of bikes, you just need to know what size of frame you need in advance.

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Even if you have the money for a new bike, it doesn't mean you have to spend it. Why not get a bike for 25% to 50% of new, one that has probably been ridden very little, if at all. Most bikes spend their lives hanging from a hook in a basement or garage, the preverbial New Year's resolution, good intentions, "I need to get some exercise" purchase. Then eventually, people sell them.

Or find one even cheaper yet, the old thrift store or garage sale bike. (But if you are in a hurry, Craigs List is your best option). Check out the bike Miamijim got for $200 on the catch of the day list. All Dura-Ace components, nice Trek road bike. You couldn't buy a comparable bike new for $1000. Not even close. And he got it off of Craigs List.

Imagine if new houses cost 2X to 3X of a used house, for the equivalent house. Would anyone buy a new house, even if they had the money? I doubt it. Bikes last a long time, and components are easy to replace when they wear out. And you are mechanically inclined, so that is not a problem.


And keep your current bike and add Trekking handlebars. Do a search on trekking bars, you will find endless threads on that topic.

My "latest" bike cost me $16, its my daily rider. Tange 1 lugged frame, mid-grade Suntour components, stainless spokes, etc. Yes it is a 1984. Yes, I had to refurbish it (new tires, tubes, cables, replace and grease bearings, clean it). None of this work was costly (less than $40 total), and none of it was difficult. And it is equivalent to a new bike costing about a grand, or more.

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Thanks for all of the info.

I think I want faster and more comfortable if I can get both. (I know, I want it all ). I thought about replacing parts on my current bike, but I feel like that would just be spending money when I will still buy a road bike anyway.

I still like the bike though and will be keeping it. I was thinking about putting a rack on it and using it to commute and run errands during the cooler months.

The guy at the bike shop was pushing me to buy a roadie, but I didn't really have the money for any of those bikes and all of the accessories that I needed (pump, helmet, shorts, etc.) When I test rode the hybrid, it felt fast. Faster than anything that I had ever ridden, granted, I hadn't rode a bike in about 15 years. I should have asked him to put some pedals on one of the LeMond bikes that he was pushing and rode it too just to compare.

I think I'll go to some of the LBS's tomorrow morning and test ride some bikes to get a better idea of what I like and what I don't like. I know, I should have done that already, but I was looking at it like test driving cars. If you are looking for a sports car and your budget is for a Miata, you wouldn't test drive Porsches and Ferraris since there is no real way that you could afford one and you might not be happy with the Miata after you drive the others. Hopefully that makes sense.

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Thanks for all of the info.

I think I want faster and more comfortable if I can get both. (I know, I want it all ). I thought about replacing parts on my current bike, but I feel like that would just be spending money when I will still buy a road bike anyway.

I still like the bike though and will be keeping it. I was thinking about putting a rack on it and using it to commute and run errands during the cooler months.

The guy at the bike shop was pushing me to buy a roadie, but I didn't really have the money for any of those bikes and all of the accessories that I needed (pump, helmet, shorts, etc.) When I test rode the hybrid, it felt fast. Faster than anything that I had ever ridden, granted, I hadn't rode a bike in about 15 years. I should have asked him to put some pedals on one of the LeMond bikes that he was pushing and rode it too just to compare.

I think I'll go to some of the LBS's tomorrow morning and test ride some bikes to get a better idea of what I like and what I don't like. I know, I should have done that already, but I was looking at it like test driving cars. If you are looking for a sports car and your budget is for a Miata, you wouldn't test drive Porsches and Ferraris since there is no real way that you could afford one and you might not be happy with the Miata after you drive the others. Hopefully that makes sense.

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It makes sense. I started on this $15 bike.
Rode it 1500 miles.



Went to the bike shop for parts:
And the Yellow Bike in the corner said: Hey look at Me.
Put it on layway as I was not in shape to ride it.

$800 on sale

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Thanks for all of the info.

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The guy at the bike shop was pushing me to buy a roadie, but I didn't really have the money for any of those bikes and all of the accessories that I needed (pump, helmet, shorts, etc.) When I test rode the hybrid, it felt fast. Faster than anything that I had ever ridden, granted, I hadn't rode a bike in about 15 years. I should have asked him to put some pedals on one of the LeMond bikes that he was pushing and rode it too just to compare.

I think I'll go to some of the LBS's tomorrow morning and test ride some bikes to get a better idea of what I like and what I don't like. ..

Thanks,
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If you can afford a decent new road bike I strongly encourage you to ride the LeMond! They are great bikes and have "relaxed" geometry. Specialized Sequoia or Roubaix are also popular. How much do you weigh, by the way?
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I'm 5'11 and down to 225 pounds. I started at 240 in July. The only problem with LeMond is that the cheapest one that the shop has (or will carry) is the Alpe d'Huez which is about $300 to $500 out of my price range at $1299.99. I know that long after I forget about the cost I will have the quality of the bike, but I only have so much money and I'm trying very hard not to spend money that I don't have. That's why I'm thinking used. I can buy more bike for my dollar and I can save more money while I wait for the right bike. Then if I save enough to buy new before a used one comes around I can still get the bike I want.
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There is nothing wrong with used. At least I hope not since the last new bike I bought was in 1988......
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+1 Think used. Particularly when money is tight (and it is tight for most of us now, ask me about my 401k....)

You can find awesome bikes on Craigs List for around $200 all day long, and if you are patient, even less.
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I have had more fun buying good used bikes and taking them apart to clean and lube everything, putting them back together and riding them around a while and then selling them. I keep a couple of the favorite ones but there is a ton of repair videos on youtube and lots of reading online. I bought a basic cycle related tool kit and I'm always on the look out.
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