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Old 01-29-09, 12:39 PM   #1
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I scheduled my January century ride for this Saturday, and then I went and messed up my right eye with a nice sized corneal scratch. I've got to wear my glasses and use these eyedrops which mess up my vision enough that it kind of throws off my balance. (Difficulty in focusing, etc.)

So... that means riding outside is pretty much off limits until my peepers are back in top shape (not until Monday, when I'm off these horrible eyedrops) and I still have a century to do for January. Looks like I'll be pulling out the mag trainer and putting in a day in front of the TV, catching up on all my DVR'd shows.

I'd much rather be outside, and I've never done an indoor century, so I'll be sure to post a ride report about this one.


Apologies to keithm0, with whom I was supposed to ride on Saturday.
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Sounds like an interesting idea. I want to try and get some time in on mine as well. Maybe I'll join you, well, kinda join you, from PA. I'd ask if you want to make it a 2 day double, but I don't think I could take the bordom of riding a trainer in the garage that long.
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I did an indoor Century multiple times last winter. One was called the Bourne Century The Bourne Century +, because I watched the Bourne movies while riding to get my cetury in. It really isn't that bad when doing it on rollers, I am not so sure about doing it on the trainer.
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I did an indoor Century multiple times last winter. One was called the Bourne Century The Bourne Century +, because I watched the Bourne movies while riding to get my cetury in. It really isn't that bad when doing it on rollers, I am not so sure about doing it on the trainer.
Movie marathon sounds like a good idea. I need to see if I have anything good on the DVR. I could always pop all 3 Godfather films in and make it a 400k

On rollers, this venture would be more like the indoor tenth of a mile, fall over and break my face on the livingroom table. I really suck at rollers.
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Have a century to do for January? Is this a personal or CAM challenge? Indoor rides don't count on AM challenges!
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Not that I really care as I doubt I'll ever do CAM, but that seems like kind of an arbitrary rule. I've heard of people riding around their neighborhood hundreds of times in winter to do an outdoor century. How is that more noble than doing 100 miles indoors?
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I dunno, I didn't make the rules!
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I'm not sure I can authorize this to qualify you for the CAM Challenge.
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You didn't, but the UMCA did... and indoor centuries count.
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I would like to do a Century a Month at some point but good lord this January has been unconducive to riding outside, at all. I mean I'm riding the 2 miles to and from work but that's about it. Stupid New England weather... (yes I know I have nothing to complain about relative to a lot of people out there.)

Oh... and I don't own a trainer.
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You didn't, but the UMCA did... and indoor centuries count.

Well that's why I asked. I see they have different rules from the forum's CAM!

I did see your name in a long distance thread and a mention of doubling up after missing a month in the CAM. So I wondered if your aim was that CAM.

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Our weather isn't horrible to go out and spend a day riding. It's either like last weekend: Clear and sunny but cold, or like today; misty rain but mid 40s.

If it weren't for the fact that my eye is only at 50% functionality right now, I'd be out there. In my current state, I wouldn't even trust myself to do 50 x 2 mile laps around my neighbourhood. (Although, that might be a possibility if things get a little better in 2 days.)

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Oh, the LD forums CAM is incredibly restrictive and takes no extenuating circumstances into account. 5' of fresh snow on the ground, 30mph wind and it's 10 below zero? Shovel a 50' circle in your parking lot and ride laps until you reach 100 miles. Outside, no matter what, or it doesn't count.
I love the gang on the LD forum, but sometimes the "rules" discussions get a bit silly. I agree with not doubling up on the CAM, even though the UMCA Larry Schwartz Award allows it. It is "per month" and not "a dozen in a year." If the latter were the case, someone could count their 1200km brevet as 7 centuries.

I'm doing a Century A Month, by the CGK1 rules: No doubling up for missed months, but if you've got to ride one or two inside, then be reasonable about it. Consider that an ACP 200k has a time limit of 13h 30m, a century (160km) should finish in under 10h 48m total time. The UMCA rules put a 6 hour time limit, which is pushing it for a lot of people at a 16.67mph average speed. I'm willing to compromise between the UMCA and (estimated) ACP limits and say that 8 total hours is a good amount of time. There's no hills or headwinds to contend with. 8 hours is 14.2mph average with an entire hour of breaktime in there.

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Well, I propped the fixed gear (44-18) up on the trainer this morning and started rolling and watching movies. I took approx. 5 minute breaks after each hour of riding, and I made it out to 80 miles before my legs and behind finally gave out. I haven't done anything longer than 50 miles since October, maybe early November last year. I paced myself reasonably, around 15mph average, but no coasting to rest really took its toll around the 70 mile mark. The last 10 miles were pretty rough, and I made myself grunt it out to an even 80 miles.

So the '09 CAM is out, even by my own rules, but I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it. 100 miles on a stationary trainer is a lot tougher than I'd originally thought. I'm OK with only making it to 80.
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Nice try though. so now you can do the '09-'10 Rollover CAM.
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Nice Try!!! I can't do it either, because of my schedules for work and referee, I haven't had a time slot free enough to put in 5-6 hours on the rollers.

I might do a CAM, but I will definitely use the rollers and or trainer to complete probably 3 to 4 of them a year.
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I know it won't qualify for the Long Distance forum CAM but I'm also signed up for the UMCA Year Rounder, so I spent six hours today riding on a trainer to get my January "century". I watched the first two "Lord of the Rings" movies.Man, I'm hoping for better weather in February so I can do my riding outdoors...

Hey Columbo - we should get together for real to do a century once the weather cooperates.
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I the forum CAM challenge is so tight cause one of the gals that started the threads is from Canada. She rides in the snow, rain, and whatever else goes along with tough conditions. The year I did it ,I ended up with 23 centuries. But this is Cali!
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Well, I propped the fixed gear (44-18) up on the trainer this morning and started rolling and watching movies. I took approx. 5 minute breaks after each hour of riding, and I made it out to 80 miles before my legs and behind finally gave out. I haven't done anything longer than 50 miles since October, maybe early November last year. I paced myself reasonably, around 15mph average, but no coasting to rest really took its toll around the 70 mile mark. The last 10 miles were pretty rough, and I made myself grunt it out to an even 80 miles.

So the '09 CAM is out, even by my own rules, but I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it. 100 miles on a stationary trainer is a lot tougher than I'd originally thought. I'm OK with only making it to 80.
You can still qualify for the UMCA Year Rounder Challenge. In addition to allowing indoor "centuries" (which only require six hours of pedaling), the UMCA allows you to make up rides in two months. You can do two centuries in February and get credit for January and February.
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I didn't make it either. Great effort though Clifton. You outlasted me by far. I watched a disc of Band of Brothers in the garage, and was bored out of my mind. I could have gone longer, but I couldn't take it. I ended with about 2:45, 50 miles, on a mag trainer one click up from no resistance. I kinda feel like crap today though. I haven't been on a biks since late October, plus I was working on breaking in a new B17 and had made some tweeks to the Raleigh.

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That would be cool! I am always looking for people to ride with. If I can get the money raised, I should be doing the ACS and LiveSTRONG in Philly, and both of the MS rides. PM me and let me know if you are doing any of those. If you don't have a team, and want to join one, I have one started. Nothing big or formal, just a few friends of all ages and riding levels that like to do the charity rides. I'd be up for some long Sat and Sun rides to get ready for them too.
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You can still qualify for the UMCA Year Rounder Challenge. In addition to allowing indoor "centuries" (which only require six hours of pedaling), the UMCA allows you to make up rides in two months. You can do two centuries in February and get credit for January and February.
I've read the rules on the UMCA site, and I'm still a bit sketchy on the interpretation of that 6-hour rule.

Does the UMCA mean to state that:
-A- Any indoor trainer ride of 6 hours or greater, regardless of actual 'mileage', counts as a century
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-B- Any indoor trainer century (100mi) must be completed in a maximum of 6 hours rolling time (16.7mph avg.)

Either way, I didn't qualify since I rode 80 miles in 5h 13m and a few seconds, for an average of 15.3mph. I did follow their rule of no more than a 5 minute break every hour, with the exception when I took the dog out and she was too interested in chasing squirrels to do her business within my 5 minute time limit. So that break was more like 10 minutes after I took care of the dog and got myself some fresh water bottles and food.
By the time the year is through, I'll certainly have more than 12 centuries, but I'm almost positive that I'll double up at least 2 of those months.
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I didn't make it either. Great effort though Clifton. You outlasted me by far. I watched a disc of Band of Brothers in the garage, and was bored out of my mind. I could have gone longer, but I couldn't take it. I ended with about 2:45, 50 miles, on a mag trainer one click up from no resistance. I kinda feel like crap today though. I haven't been on a biks since late October, plus I was working on breaking in a new B17 and had made some tweeks to the Raleigh.
I think 50 miles on a trainer after a 3 month hiatus is pretty good, especially trying to break in a new saddle. We need to remember that to do 100 miles on the trainer, is similar to doing 100 miles on the road. With a couple of notable exceptions, first is that you don't have to carry your supplies, in that you have the tap handy, and the cupboard and the fridge... Although if your normal, summer road century process is to keep a stash of gu in your back pocket, and slurp one of those down every 20 miles, nothing wrong with doing that as well. Your also a little less likely to flat.

One thing to remember a century does not have to mean continuous saddle time, if you ride 50 miles to your in-laws, help your father-in-law figure out how to install a new chain on his comfort bike, then ride the 50 miles home, it's still a century. So if you get really bored, get off for a while, do something else, then continue on.....

My first week on the trainer gave me a total of 10km, also after a 3 month hiatus...... I like to start very slow and then ramp things up quickly, should be to a century before June, so that might actually be a road century..... Although considering that I am in a metric country, a century is 100km, not 100 miles.....

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I've read the rules on the UMCA site, and I'm still a bit sketchy on the interpretation of that 6-hour rule.

Does the UMCA mean to state that:
-A- Any indoor trainer ride of 6 hours or greater, regardless of actual 'mileage', counts as a century
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-B- Any indoor trainer century (100mi) must be completed in a maximum of 6 hours rolling time (16.7mph avg.)

Either way, I didn't qualify since I rode 80 miles in 5h 13m and a few seconds, for an average of 15.3mph. I did follow their rule of no more than a 5 minute break every hour, with the exception when I took the dog out and she was too interested in chasing squirrels to do her business within my 5 minute time limit. So that break was more like 10 minutes after I took care of the dog and got myself some fresh water bottles and food.
By the time the year is through, I'll certainly have more than 12 centuries, but I'm almost positive that I'll double up at least 2 of those months.
The Year Rounder rules say:

Indoor Mileage: You may ride indoors "centuries" (six hours) for credit in the Y-R, so long as they follow the UMCA Indoor Challenge rules.

The Indoor Challenge rules say nothing about distance...only time. I'm figuring that as long as I'm on the trainer for six hours of pedaling time I get credit for 100 miles. I just submitted an indoor century for credit toward my Year Rounder, so I'll soon know if it's accepted or rejected.

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I didn't make it either. Great effort though Clifton. You outlasted me by far. I watched a disc of Band of Brothers in the garage, and was bored out of my mind. I could have gone longer, but I couldn't take it. I ended with about 2:45, 50 miles, on a mag trainer one click up from no resistance. I kinda feel like crap today though. I haven't been on a biks since late October, plus I was working on breaking in a new B17 and had made some tweeks to the Raleigh.



That would be cool! I am always looking for people to ride with. If I can get the money raised, I should be doing the ACS and LiveSTRONG in Philly, and both of the MS rides. PM me and let me know if you are doing any of those. If you don't have a team, and want to join one, I have one started. Nothing big or formal, just a few friends of all ages and riding levels that like to do the charity rides. I'd be up for some long Sat and Sun rides to get ready for them too.
Perhaps we could make this a trio?
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Clifton, what films did you choose for your century?
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Clifton, what films did you choose for your century?
1) Wanted (Awesome movie)
2) Babylon A.D. (Good, but too much like Children of Men)
3) Samurai Jack (CN Movie Premier, seen it a zillion times. Good cartoon for when you need to feel superhuman.)
4) Burn After Reading (Sucked. Watched the first 30 minutes. I could be really negative and blame this movie's level of suck as the reason I didn't finish my last 20 miles, but even that is giving it too much credit.)
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