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    I know this is not a diet forum, but...

    ...I am sabotoging my desire to lose weight. Back in November when I weighed 260 I started riding a bike (again after a 18 month layoff). A few weeks and my weight had dropped to 250 and I thought I was on my way. Then Christmas, then New Years, then the SuperBowl, then Valentines Day....yep. I am setting myself up to fail. I will do well for a couple of days or maybe a week, but then weakness sets in. Now I am back to 260 which makes me think all the cold rides I have been on since November have been all in vain. I am not going to give up, but I am VERY disappointed in myself. It gets very discouraging. When I go for a ride, I feel great. I feel great when I get back. S omehow, I think just because I put in a nice 20-30 mile ride that I can eat anything. My goal now of 190 seems impossible.
    Have any of you struggled like this? It seems after a good few days of effort of eating less and eating right I end up sabotoging myself with junk food. Am I afraid to look thin again? Just down in the dumps right now and waiting on spring to get here so I can consistently ride rather than the hit or miss days this winter. Perplexed to say the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gapwedge View Post
    ...I am sabotoging my desire to lose weight. Back in November when I weighed 260 I started riding a bike (again after a 18 month layoff). A few weeks and my weight had dropped to 250 and I thought I was on my way. Then Christmas, then New Years, then the SuperBowl, then Valentines Day....yep. I am setting myself up to fail. I will do well for a couple of days or maybe a week, but then weakness sets in. Now I am back to 260 which makes me think all the cold rides I have been on since November have been all in vain. I am not going to give up, but I am VERY disappointed in myself. It gets very discouraging. When I go for a ride, I feel great. I feel great when I get back. S omehow, I think just because I put in a nice 20-30 mile ride that I can eat anything. My goal now of 190 seems impossible.
    Have any of you struggled like this? It seems after a good few days of effort of eating less and eating right I end up sabotoging myself with junk food. Am I afraid to look thin again? Just down in the dumps right now and waiting on spring to get here so I can consistently ride rather than the hit or miss days this winter. Perplexed to say the least.
    Yes, all the time. Hang in there!

    I'd spent years trying to lose weight, or perhaps posing as someone trying to lose weight. And as soon as I hit the first setback I gave up. Finally, I discovered the secret. Don't give up. Don't give up, because I'm the only person responsible for my success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gapwedge View Post
    ...I am sabotoging my desire to lose weight. Back in November when I weighed 260 I started riding a bike (again after a 18 month layoff). A few weeks and my weight had dropped to 250 and I thought I was on my way. Then Christmas, then New Years, then the SuperBowl, then Valentines Day....yep. I am setting myself up to fail. I will do well for a couple of days or maybe a week, but then weakness sets in. Now I am back to 260 which makes me think all the cold rides I have been on since November have been all in vain. I am not going to give up, but I am VERY disappointed in myself. It gets very discouraging. When I go for a ride, I feel great. I feel great when I get back. S omehow, I think just because I put in a nice 20-30 mile ride that I can eat anything. My goal now of 190 seems impossible.
    Have any of you struggled like this? It seems after a good few days of effort of eating less and eating right I end up sabotoging myself with junk food. Am I afraid to look thin again? Just down in the dumps right now and waiting on spring to get here so I can consistently ride rather than the hit or miss days this winter. Perplexed to say the least.
    I too struggle with weight problems. I was up to 224. Now I'm down to around 199-200. One thing that seems to help a little is using Slim Fast. I buy the powdered cans when they are on sale at Wal-Mart, and stock up. My boys even like the stuff! It does help to curb my appetite a bit.

    I have another more serious problem though -- hypoglycemia, really bad. So I have to eat often, which makes it difficult to keep the weight down. More exercise is good, and will help to shed more pounds. Change in diet will also help. I've cut back on meat, especially red meat, fat, junk food. I drink 1 % and sometimes non-fat milk. Takes awhile to get used to the low-fat milk, but you can do it!!!

    Eat more fruits and vegetables. Drink more water. Eat smaller proportions, more often. Find an exercise buddy. Stay active ....

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    Keep a Record of You Daily Diet ...

    Oh yes, you should also record everything you eat, for at least one week. Make sure that you keep an accurate record of EVERYTHING you eat and drink. Save the labels, write/type it down. You can look up values online too.

    You will be amazed at what you learn! Sodium and fat are the big ones that are difficult to cut back on. Eat more grains. Get used to reading labels on everything BEFORE you buy, as you are shopping. Learn what a "SERVING" is, and stick with one serving. You will get used to it after awhile. Eat something else with a serving of chips, like carrot sticks with a healthy spread (see below), or celery sticks with a healthy spread. Drink a glass of juice with ice cream, or chips, etc.

    I keep the junk food locked up in my bedroom (so my boys can't get to it!). I only bring out the junk food sometimes, and only if their chores have been completed correctly and on time, or for something special. But ... no more junk food everyday!

    I just found a new item to add to my diet: Bonne Maman Chestnut Spread. Only 50 calories, 0 fat (!), 0 sodium (!). Tastes great! You can also find low-fat peanut butter. I believe almond butter is also low in sodium. I also use Nutella, which is a hazelnut spread, and is lower in fat than regular peanut butter, and very low in sodium (only 15mg).

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    Don't Give Up ... !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by The Historian View Post
    Yes, all the time. Hang in there!

    I'd spent years trying to lose weight, or perhaps posing as someone trying to lose weight. And as soon as I hit the first setback I gave up. Finally, I discovered the secret. Don't give up. Don't give up, because I'm the only person responsible for my success.
    Yes ... that is the key ... Don't give up ... !!! Make changes slowly ... cut back on the amount you eat for each meal. If you normally eat three meals a day, cut back to smaller quantities, and eat four meals a day. After awhile (few weeks, or several months), then cut back to smaller meals, and eat five times a day.

    Try using small bowls/plates. This has really helped me a lot!! Also, when drinking milk, use a smaller cup, and limit yourself to just one cup! Drink slowly, eat slowly, enjoy your food. Don't gulp it down.

    You can do it!!! Many people take in way, way, way, way, way, way, tooooo many calories per meal. Just read the labels very carefully, and you find that many canned foods (even small cans) are actually two portions!! Some cans are three or even four portions. And many people are used to eating the whole can by themself!!! Some people even eat two or three cans for one meal, and have already eaten more than half of their daily calories, and maybe double their sodium intake for one day!!!!

    Try mixing grains with half a can of beans, or something like that. Rinse off canned food that can be rinsed, to get rid of more sodium.

    I've been eating low sodium bread for over one year now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gapwedge View Post
    ...I am VERY disappointed in myself. It gets very discouraging. When I go for a ride, I feel great. I feel great when I get back. Somehow, I think just because I put in a nice 20-30 mile ride that I can eat anything. My goal now of 190 seems impossible....(
    I could have written that. For instance, I rode my bike like a mad man all weekend: 100 miles on Saturday, 50 more on Sunday. However, I get on the scale this morning and voila! I see that I have gained a pound since Saturday morning. It is all very discouraging.

    Simply put, I just eat too much.
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    I hear you loud and clear on not giving up. I don't give up or I would be 460 by now. I am 6'0" so I feel my best when I weighed 200 or less. I am 56 so I know my activity has slowed over the years. I also know what to eat and I know how to watch portions of food. Been there. It is just like ok, you have down well this week a little junk snack won't hurt. I have never written a daily diary of food I have consumed during the day as I am not much of a journal guy, but that is a good idea. At least I can track where my calories are coming from. I almost feel like I am addicted because I must feel like a smoker (not that I would know) trying to quit smoking. Maybe I am addicted to some carbohydrates since I can when I want pack away some junk food---cookies, chips, crackers, bread, etc.
    I just need to dust it off and get back on the horse. Staying on for a good amount of time is the question. I know habits are broken or formed in 21 days, so maybe I can string 21 straight days to change my way of eating. I just know it is hard. So I guess just HTFU, huh?
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    I have a different take on it, and I usually get slammed when I mention it, but it sounds to me like you haven't reconciled your desire to lose weight, all the way through to your core being. In other words, this is all in your head. You've got to really want it. And want it bad enough that you're willing to make the sacrifices necessary in order to make it happen. Based on what you posted, you don't want it bad enough yet.

    I'm sure there are less drastic ways to explain it, and probably better choices of words, but this is the best I can come up with.

    Good luck, I hope you can work through this. As they say in the shoe ad "Just do it"
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    Don't give up man, I did that last year and gained back 15 lbs, but have since lost 30. It might be your calorie count. Make sure you are getting proper calories to cover all your exercise, I was not eating enough and was stuck on a plateau for a year. Since I started eating more, I have been losing slow but steady. Also, you might want to change up your routine instead of just biking. Do some weight training, swimming, elliptical. I eat potato's, bread, rice, etc., just in moderation and don't eat fats on them though.

    Agree with Joel, you also got to want it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoelS View Post
    I have a different take on it, and I usually get slammed when I mention it, but it sounds to me like you haven't reconciled your desire to lose weight, all the way through to your core being. In other words, this is all in your head. You've got to really want it. And want it bad enough that you're willing to make the sacrifices necessary in order to make it happen. Based on what you posted, you don't want it bad enough yet.

    I'm sure there are less drastic ways to explain it, and probably better choices of words, but this is the best I can come up with.

    Good luck, I hope you can work through this. As they say in the shoe ad "Just do it"

    Hey, no slam from me. I understand what you are saying. That is why I ended my last post by saying I need to HTFU!! Today is Monday, so this would be a good day to draw the line in the sand and get this demon off my back.
    Appreciate all the replies. Thanks.
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    I ended up being down 10 lbs for the first month of the year mostly on luck. I worked out hard training for the half marathon, only to eat a lot of calories back. Granted I watched what I was doing enough to see a steady continual decrease, but i wasnt serious enough about it as I should have been. Now that Im entering the triathlon training phase, Im getting more serious.

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    I have been there myself. I am not currently there because like Joel said you have to really want to do it. I started 2 years ago at 320 pounds with goal of getting down to 220. I got down to 250 and stayed there for a year. I did this to prove to myself that once you really change your lifestyle you can maintain. The key is that it requires a lifestyle change. I have now started phase 2 of my program and I am at 226. I feel better and better every day. One thing that has helped me is to realize that weight loss is a very simple equation. Calories in VS calories out. Executing the plan is not easy. If you eat stuff you know you shouldn't you need to pay it back in calories out. This will really make you think about the 600 calorie donut. Stick with it, don't give up and work hard. You will be successful if you want to be.

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    Don't give up. Just start slowly changing your habits.
    1. Throw all the processed food out. Make your own dishes from scratch.
    2. Throw all the non-nutritious food out the window. If there is an ingredient in it that you can't read, throw it away and don't buy it anymore.
    3. Only go shopping after you ate. Never ever go shopping while your hungry you only buy crap that way.
    4. If you already had a warm lunch, don't eat a warm dinner. Eat a salad for dinner instead, but use something low fat like Newman's salad dressing and only a tbsp for dressing. Throw a few almonds or other nuts in the salad.
    5. Instead of junk, eat carrots, apples, oranges, bananas, pears. Buy organic if possible, tastes much better.
    6. Only eat one portion, let it settle for 30 min. If you are still hungry at that point, top it off with a veggie or fruit. Never ever go for a second portion.
    7. Eat a yogurt between lunch and dinner to keep you satisfied.
    8. Mc'Ds, Wendies, BK and so on are to be avoided at all costs. Don't try to find excuses why you should go for one. Not having time to make lunch or dinner is NOT an option.

    Substitute Spaghetti with Spaghetti squash! Use whole wheat ingredients only in case wheat is a needed ingredient.

    And not having time is just an excuse. Everyone can find time. I have two kids, both my wife and I work and we have the time to prepare lunch and dinner. Don't fool yourself.

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    I'm on the upswing again too. Doh! I was down in the 190s before the holidays, I'm up to about 205 now. My goal is to get into the 180s. I know it's possible because in 2005 I went from 240 to 170 in six months.

    I know what works: for me it's the South Beach Diet. But I don't have the motivation to follow it as strictly as I ought to. I'm trying to follow it for a few weeks anyway. We'll see what happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doohickie View Post
    I'm on the upswing again too. Doh! I was down in the 190s before the holidays, I'm up to about 205 now. My goal is to get into the 180s. I know it's possible...
    Much the same, but worse is/was happening to me. I was in the 190's this past summer, crept up to about 205 after Labor day, held steady until T-Giving and then zoomed to present day 220-plus -- most of it was gained by or shortly after Christmas.

    I did a great job of losing my self-control. In the summer, I was on a nice nutritious diet consisting of mostly raw fruits and vegetables. Once the hours of available daylight began to dwindle, I started eating crap again. Once the weather changed, I seem to have totally gone wild.

    Right now my goals are to take control of my food intake again (avoiding the easy access fatty foods offered here at work is my biggest challenge) while continuing with the high-intensity exercise program I have been on since the holidays. I refuse to give up.

    FYI: I have worked out every day since Christmas, ridden countless hours on MTB and the trainer, but I have not yet lost any weight. However, I have stopped gaining it.

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    You know, I look and feel better at 210 this time around than 210 last time around..

    So all that work may not have been totally in vain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoelS View Post
    I have a different take on it, and I usually get slammed when I mention it....
    You got 'slammed' for lecturing to the entire forum, Joel.

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    I've recently been reading about how your brain finds patterns in things and steers you subcontiously towards those things. Like when you buy a new car and then suddenly you see the same make everywhere, well that's your brain finding patterns. Apparently if your brain sees you as a fat bloke then it'll find the patterns to match that e.g. cookies not apples, lifts (not stairs) etc.
    If you visualise yourself as a thin person and believe you're allowed to be thin, your brain will start to match patterns. Of course it's not the only answer but it's interesting how much of a factor having your brain in the right mode is.

    I guess this is a version of JoelS's 'got to want it'.

    As soon as I brush these cookie crumbs off my desk, I'm going to get right to work on this theory.
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