Ok yesterday I went to two LBS and the one that was the most helpful and the most knowledgable person I have spoke to yet also this person was a girl! This shop appeared to have the best deal but was the Giant dealer on an 09 Rincon I researched the Rincon last night on the MTBR forum only because for some reason I could not search this forum?
The other was Specialized to look at Hardrock Sport where the kid who helped me looked like his other job was at Abercrombie & Fitch he was nice but not so knowledgable
Both bikes have double wall rims, same gauge spokes but the hard rock has spokes that do not cross and the rincon has tripple cross spokes? Does this make a difference for a #300 + clyde