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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 03-16-09, 03:29 PM   #1
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Wheel set for Big Boys-Mavic Ksyrium SL

Are there any 250LBS+ Clydes out there riding on Mavic Ksyrium SL? I brought my bike into a different bike shop today and the first thing they did was tell me that I am to heavy for this wheel set. I just got the bike so I have very little time on it. They did of course try and sell me a different wheel set that they said would hold my weight. I called Mavic, they said I would be fine but should inspect the rims frequently to make sure everything was tight and they were true.

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Old 03-16-09, 03:42 PM   #2
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If possible, use 25 mm or even 28 mm tires (if they will fit your frame) and max inflation pressures as shown on the tire, the larger tires will help the wheels last
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Old 03-16-09, 03:50 PM   #3
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Sounds to me like this bike shop is trying to take your money! Ksyrium SLs are very nice, relatively pricey wheels. If you were 165lbs, then these 1485g 18/20-spoke wheels would probably be the hot ticket to your next race win. If you're a recreational cyclist, a Clyde, or both then they probably aren't the ideal wheel.

What sorts of problems are you having with your current wheels? Hint: if you're not having any problems, then you may not need to upgrade.
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Old 03-16-09, 04:20 PM   #4
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I weigh about 220 and ride Ksyrium ES special anniversaries with 23 wide tires, I ride the crap outta these (couple hundred miles a week on seattle streets) and never had a hiccup out of them, the ksyrium series are sweet
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Old 03-16-09, 04:22 PM   #5
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Most vendors will tell you there products have no weight limit.. Then of course when you start popping spokes or cracking rims, the shop will tell it is because these wheels were made for someone 180lbs or less..

I think the shop was looking out for you, most likely from previous experience.. A sub 1500 gram wheelset for a 250+ clyde is right on the edge.. What wheels were they trying to upgrade you too?

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Old 03-16-09, 04:55 PM   #6
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In my experience (and I've had a couple lately!), it takes at least a few hundred, and sometimes a thousand or so, miles to determine whether a wheelset works for us north of 200 guys. I've had rear wheel issues with 3 different wheelsets in the last year. Ritchey WCS Protocols that came with my BD Mercier Draco: spoke failure at 400 miles, terminal rim failure at 600, wheel replaced by BD, wheelset sold to a lighter guy. Neuvation M28 Aero 3 spoke failure at 400 miles, rim failure at 2K miles, quickly replaced by Neuvation, still debating whether to sell or try again. Bicycle Wheel Warehouse Ultegra/DT Swiss RR 1.1, loss of tension at 300 miles on several non-drive side spokes, retensioned higher, we'll see what happens now (BWWs customer service guy, Chris, has been extremely solicitous and helpful, BTW). OTOH, my Velocity Deep V's have 5K plus miles on them issue free (other than one that was my fault [high speed encounter with RR tracks], from which they recovered nicely--suspect other rims might not have fared as well). I'm not crazy about the Velocity hubs, and the Vs are my heaviest wheelset, but who am I kidding? We're talking ounces of difference between wheelsets under a 235 pound engine! Spoke counts, for those who care: Ritchey: 20F, 24R; Neuvation 20F 24R; BWW 32F, 32R; Velocity 24F, 28R.
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Old 03-16-09, 05:07 PM   #7
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I'm 260 and have had a pair of SL's for 2 years and have about 3,000 miles on them (I've ridden more in the past 2 years, but not all on that bike).

I got them after talking with my LBS (an excellent LBS) ... specifically looking for a solid, stiff, high quality wheelset for my "light" bike. Still true and in excellent shape. I ride on country roads in central Illinois.

I have another bike that's built much heavier to tour on ... velocity dyads, phil wood hubs 48 spoke rear 40 spoke fronts.

Back to your original question though ... all fine with me at 260lbs for 3,000 miles.
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I just bought a Cannondale Carbon SL 1. The rims actually came with it. The previous owner bought the bike new in 2006 and then got sick. The bike has less than 200 miles on it. To be honest the last thing I am looking to do is invest in a new wheel set. But at 270lbs I also have no interest in being stranded or injured.

I have no idea what the bike shop was going to recommend because at the time I thought he was crazy and I was not interested.
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I just bought a Cannondale Carbon SL 1. The rims actually came with it. The previous owner bought the bike new in 2006 and then got sick. The bike has less than 200 miles on it. To be honest the last thing I am looking to do is invest in a new wheel set. But at 270lbs I also have no interest in being stranded or injured.

I have no idea what the bike shop was going to recommend because at the time I thought he was crazy and I was not interested.
Excellent bike, I bought my SL1 used as well. First thing my shop did when I asked their opinion was suggest re-tension and true both wheels. They found things a little "loose" for their tastes, and these were supposedly 200 mile wheels. I'm not a Clyde, but you might want to consider having a good wheel man take a look at them for peace of mind.
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Ah, I guess I misunderstood your first post: I thought you said that they were recommending you buy a set of Ksyrium SLs, not that they were recommending you ditch them. If they were telling you to ditch them, that I can understand! BTW, if you want different wheels, you could probably sell the Ksyrium SLs and end up with enough money to buy, say, a set of Mavic OpenPro rims laced to Ultegra hubs (~$240 @ Bicycle Wheel Warehouse, IIRC).

If you're worried about being stranded, buy a Fiber Fix spoke kit and a spoke wrench. I haven't used one myself, but have friends who swear by them.
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Old 03-16-09, 06:30 PM   #11
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Your shop is probably looking after your interests more than just trying to sell more wheels. The Ksyriums SL's would normally be considered a bit light for your weight. However, if they're serving you well, why change? Make sure they're properly tensioned, and ride. The only reasons for buying more wheels would be if you wanted to save the SL's for race/club rides or if their loss would be a major concern to you and you wanted a more bomb proof wheel for the forseeable future.
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Yeah...at 270 you might be better served with the Open Pro/Ultegra 32-36 hole wheels. The Ksyriums...if you have no problems...great. But once they start going out of true, they'll repeat doing so. And if you break a spoke, and your shop doesn't have a replacement, it may take a while to get some ordered.
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Old 03-17-09, 04:05 AM   #13
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I'm currently around 190 on mine, so I don't know if that helps or not. But they have been amazingly rock solid for me with at least 5000 miles on them since last summer.
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I too am 190 LBs. I have probably 6000 or so miles on mine and they have been rock solid dependable. So much so that I bought a pair to go on my other road/commuter/beater last forever Litespeed Tuscany.
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Old 04-06-09, 03:14 PM   #15
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go for it. ive been assured by some friends in the know, who wouldnt find it funny if i went down due to catastrophic wheel failure, that the mavic ksyriums will hold us mid clydes (<270) ok, as long as were not doing 3' drops off benches.

they are surprisingly strong. i ride elites and im 250. i also ride 25 tires
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You are too heavy for those wheels. These are road race wheels for rail thin athletes who compete. The fact that SOME people > 200 have ridden them w/out problems doesn't mean they're right for people > 200.

I'd sell 'em. You can still get money for them. You can't get money for broken wheels.
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6'7" currently 260#s riding kysurium SLs on both of my road bikes, one with 25s the other 23s, never a problem since I got them in 2006.
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185 here and love mine SL's from 2005. Tons of miles and I make their asses pay coming down the mountain too! Only live once.

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Ksyrium Elites have been bullet proof for me. 270 lbs and several thousand miles. 1 broken spoke on the rear. I have a set of open Pros with an Ultegra hub. 32 spokes. Can't keep the rear wheel true. Even had the LBS respoke and retention the wheel. By the way, keep that Mavic free wheel serviced. Else you get the death squeel and end up buying a new one.....
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I'm currently about 220 and have about 10,000 miles on a set of Ksyrium SSC SL's. I check them carefully every couple of months, and other than a couple of hub adjustments they've been fine. I ride lots of hard miles, with lots of climbing and descending on some pretty beat up roads, and these have needed the least amount of attention of any wheels I've owned.

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I don't see you having an issue with them. Ride them a bit, have them trued (at least checked), keep the nipples lubed (seriously) and enjoy. There are a ton of them around here being ridden by some pretty big guys with no issues.
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Old 04-10-09, 06:34 PM   #22
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Checked today. The heaviest rider we have riding SL's out of the shop weight 310lbs, I think you're safe.
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Old 04-22-09, 01:44 PM   #23
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Thus far I hit a rock with the rear tire hard enough to give me my first flat and I rode into a nasty pothole while day dreaming about being anywhere else but on my bike.

Rims are strong. Still true. (I had them checked)
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