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Old 03-27-09, 06:47 PM   #1
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Talk Me out Of It- Garmin 705

So tomorrow me and all my money may go to REI and buy the Garmin 705. It's a friggin ton of money. I figure it has good maps and I can use it for ever. Do you think the new bike rider with the $1100 bike is stupid for buying it??? I figure REI is nearby and they will take it back when it breaks and replace.

History: Current $250 computer breaks all the time - I jst returned it to my LBS for full refund.... I think I am done with that LBS- they did not give me a loaner until we got a new computer....just wasn't feeling anything for them today, Anyhoo - $700 for my computer is huge - so if you think am an ***** say so....

What I will get =Cadence, HRM, Altimeter. Return to start route - detailed street maps,. etc.


OK I am a big girl (getting smaller) and can take it...tell me what you are thiniking. .....
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In my experience the 305 works great. What doesn't it do that you need? The price difference is quite a lot, and I'm not sure what I can't get from a 305.

EDIT: Nevermind, street maps. Durrr.

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I would say to get it. I am planning on getting one in a few months (my birthday). It does not matter what the cost of your bike is, if you want it, I say get it. What computer were you having issues with?
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So tomorrow me and all my money may go to REI and buy the Garmin 705. It's a friggin ton of money. I figure it has good maps and I can use it for ever. Do you think the new bike rider with the $1100 bike is stupid for buying it??? I figure REI is nearby and they will take it back when it breaks and replace.

History: Current $250 computer breaks all the time - I jst returned it to my LBS for full refund.... I think I am done with that LBS- they did not give me a loaner until we got a new computer....just wasn't feeling anything for them today, Anyhoo - $700 for my computer is huge - so if you think am an ***** say so....

What I will get =Cadence, HRM, Altimeter. Return to start route - detailed street maps,. etc.


OK I am a big girl (getting smaller) and can take it...tell me what you are thiniking. .....
Here's what I'm thinkin' Bee:

I bought a 705 and put it on my $1300 road bike and...

I LOVE the thing! I've had it since September and I still don't know everything that it can do. I've got HR and cadence, too. I got a GREAT deal on mine when Nashbar was having a sale and I paid less than $400. I added the HR and Cadence sensor for around $35, and bought the SD card and maps for another $70 or so.

I would strongly recommend that you NOT buy a bundle packaged with the detailed maps already installed. You REALLY want to buy a blank SD card and buy the "City Navigator NT" CD. You can then install the maps onto your computer (PC only, I think...no Mac) and into Garmin's Training Center. You can then transfer them to the 705. That way you have the maps in both. You can then plot a course (or route) on the computer, import it to the 705 and the computer will prompt you on your ride. Very cool...and I think that's what the 705 can do that the 305 can't (well, that and the color map screen).

If you have any interest, there is a 33 page long thread that goes through prett much everything you need to know.

So...I'm terribly sorry...I just can't, in good conscience, try to convince you not to buy a 705. I love mine too much to do that.

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I love big girls getting smaller, go for it, you deserve it !
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What do you need it for? Take that money and donate it to someone who just lost their job.
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What do you need it for? Take that money and donate it to someone who just lost their job.
YEs - but I would be enabling the person who lost their job??? This way I an enable the economy and the person who lost their job can PM me and I woul be happy to help coach them and edit their resume.
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As someone who's been laid off in the past, giving someone some money who's recently lost their job is not "enabling." Enabling is giving money to a heroin addict that will be used to buy drugs.
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Unless, of course, the reason that person's lost their job is because they were a heroin addict. But I digress.

$700 seems steep to me. I thought they were available for cheaper than that. Am I mistaken?
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I bought a 305 in November of last year. I had the same quandry you are in right now, looking at features vs cost and questioning my sanity. I remember the 705 having the maps (if you buy them), the color screen, and significantly longer battery life.

I also remember none of those features having any value to me. I got my 305 for under $200, plus I got it off eBay during the big Microsoft rebate promotion so I saved even more, eventually.

It is ultimately up to you. What I have listed are the differences between the 305 and the much more expensive 705. You will be happy with the 705, no doubt about that. The question for me was whether or not I would really care about the features above the 305, and I ultimately decided they weren't that important.
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Everyone has ups and downs in their life from time to time. People who have fallen on tough times don't need to be trying to guilt those who have not been so unfortunate.
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More functions, more weight. I climb better with my 4 function $14 Peformance Axion cheapo than I did with a $200 cateye with multi functions. I believe it's 12 more grams per function!
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True, but these are extraordinary times. If I had $700 burning a hole in my pocket, I sure wouldn't spend it on a frivolous toy, especially when there are less expensive options.
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If I could afford to upgrade my 305 to a 705, I'd do it in a heartbeat! Go for it!
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Meh, doohickie is trying to talk you out of it. Nevermind.

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Meh. Look at the title of her thread: "Talk Me out Of It- Garmin 705". I'm just giving her something to think about. I think dlester's points were better than mine.

I'm pretty passionate about bicycles, but I've never paid more than $250 for one. (I can understand paying more, but I'm happy with what I've got for now.) It's not about the bike; it's about cutting through the air on my own power, and each of my bikes does a great job of that, each in its own way.

To me, though, spending $400 or more on a bike computer seems simply ludicrous to me. I'm an engineer; I make my living on technology. But when it comes to consumer electronics, I am a Luddite, a retro-grouch, a gadget curmudgeon.
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Don't listen to the naysayers: the Garmin bike computers are wonderful! If you really want to get fit, they'll give you tons of information that will help (assuming you pay for the HRM). I bought mine on eBay and paid $410 (computer, HR, cadence, map card). It was during the live.com 25% cashback program, so my net cost ended up being around $300. At that price, I feel that it's a decent value. At $650 or 700, not so much.

Here's the thing about the 705: it's a bike computer, not a GPS unit. If you really want GPS and maps, you'll find that the screen is a bit too small and the controls are a bit cumbersome. I bought the 705 thinking it might be able to do double-duty as a hand-held GPS unit when I go hiking. It might, but it's not ideal for that. If I had to purchase again, I might buy the Edge 305 rather than the 705. In addition to mapping, the 705 allegedly has a better screen and longer battery life than the 305. And it will display power data if you ever buy a PowerTap, Quarq, or other ANT+Sport compatible power meter. I find that the battery in my 705 will last for a week of usage (1-2hrs/day), I never use the mapping functions when I'm on the bike, and I'll probably never own a power meter. So I could probably get by with the 305 rather than the 705.

If you do decide to buy a 705, realize that the included base maps are terrible. If you actually plan to use the mapping functions you'll want to buy a bundle that includes the SD map card or you'll have to buy the maps on DVD. I would not buy a 705 without the heart-rate monitor and the cadence sensor.
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I bought a Garmin 305 a few weeks ago and absolutely love it. I talked myself out of the maps and powermeter capability that the 705 gives you for an added $300/$400.

Bought mine (and many other GPS's) from here:GPS City


this probably won't help talk you out of it????

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I have a 305 and love the thing, but it did not cost me anything, was an award from work. When looking at the 705 a few months ago, I just could not justify the cost of upgrading to it, but I will admit, it is sweet and the data junkie in me would love to own it.

And as someone that is about to lose their job in the next 35 days or so, not a heroin addict either just a data junkie, I might be looking at a less costly option as well. You can find the 305's for less than $200 now and the only real difference is not having color screen and active maps. My argument for why I did not need it came to; how often would I really need the active maps? and is a color screen really worth the price increase.
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So tomorrow me and all my money may go to REI and buy the Garmin 705. It's a friggin ton of money. I figure it has good maps and I can use it for ever. Do you think the new bike rider with the $1100 bike is stupid for buying it??? I figure REI is nearby and they will take it back when it breaks and replace.

History: Current $250 computer breaks all the time - I jst returned it to my LBS for full refund.... I think I am done with that LBS- they did not give me a loaner until we got a new computer....just wasn't feeling anything for them today, Anyhoo - $700 for my computer is huge - so if you think am an ***** say so....

What I will get =Cadence, HRM, Altimeter. Return to start route - detailed street maps,. etc.


OK I am a big girl (getting smaller) and can take it...tell me what you are thiniking. .....
Why talk you out of it. It comes down to this, if you can afford it, paying CASH, then go for it. If you must use a credit card or a buy now, pay later plan, then look at a lower cost model that you can afford to pay cash for. Buying frivolous stuff on credit is what got America into trouble in the first place. Buying frivolous stuff made in China on credit is why the economic slumps are getting more serious, more frequent and lasting longer now.

When I was 16, I wanted a new bicycle, we couldn't afford it, so I shovelled snow and cut grass for a couple of years, and saved up for it. when I finally bought it, it was a Sekine, fire engine red, drop bars, a whole 10 speeds, and made right here in Canada.
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Ask yourself 3 questions:

Do I need it?
Can I afford it?
If something happened in the next couple of weeks or so, do I have enough savings to sustain myself and the people that depend on me for at least 3 months (rent, food)?

If you answer yes to these 3 questions,

Go, enjoy yourself.

If you answer: No, I can't... There's your answer for the computer.

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And then as a bonus, try to find it cheaper on-line... You might just wind up saving a couple of 100$
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By the way, I just checked e-bay, Saw some 705 bundles with heart-rate monitor and cadance monitor for 410$ 1 year warrrenty it's refurbished, but it's 300 cheaper and has a warrenty.

Eric...
http://cgi.ebay.com/GARMIN-EDGE-705-...3A1%7C294%3A50

Not affiliated with this site and do not endorse their products, this is just to show you that you can get it cheaper!
Wait, that was the wrong one... Here is the 410$ one
http://cgi.ebay.com/GARMIN-Edge-705-...3A1%7C294%3A50

No affiliation here either.

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If you do need the extra maps, cadence and power meter is the 605 the way to go?

I already have the 2008 topo maps which includes all streets in the USA on a micro sd card for my etrex vista hcx, I have read that I can just drop this in the 705 but not sure about the 605..
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I really love my 305. I looked at the newer ones and the screen is smaller, which I did not like. Not sure street maps would help with such a small screen.
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By the way, I just checked e-bay, Saw some 705 bundles with heart-rate monitor and cadance monitor for 410$ 1 year warrrenty it's refurbished, but it's 300 cheaper and has a warrenty.

Eric...
http://cgi.ebay.com/GARMIN-EDGE-705-...3A1%7C294%3A50

Not affiliated with this site and do not endorse their products, this is just to show you that you can get it cheaper!
Wait, that was the wrong one... Here is the 410$ one
http://cgi.ebay.com/GARMIN-Edge-705-...3A1%7C294%3A50

No affiliation here either.
The only trouble I have with ebay etc - is that with a bnike computer I know it will break and I will exchange for a new one (Has happened 3 times with the one I just returned...so I think I need a bike shop or REI. ) I also liek giving Contes in Conyers my business os may give them a chance,.. or REI. I think I am zeroing in on the Gramin 705.
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