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    Banned. Mr. Beanz's Avatar
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    I cheated, 10 Fries but Weight is Down, Can I Beat my PR?

    I felt so bad lastnight. I ate some fries for the first time in 4 months! I have been watching what I eat, no junk, very little icecream, only one night a week as a reward for being good all week. Right before Christmas I was 248 but set my mind on a ride and more climbing. Seems that I have been stuck at 238 for a couple of months. The plan was to ride harder and not starve myself. I was getting kind or worried thinking the weight wasn't dropping. My goal was to be 225 by the 13th of June for the ride. So I picked up the pace on the bike about 3 weeks ago. More intense climbing but same intake of food. I've done mtn rides the last 6 weeks.

    I ate a few fries lastnight and after I felt guilty. Darn, only 2 months left before the ride and my weight aint dropping....BUT! I wake up tis morning then weigh myself at my usual weigh in time...BAM!!!!! 6 lbs just vanished overnight!

    Down to 232 lbs. Now I'm figuring I can make 225 by June if I stick with my plan. All seems to be looking up now! I set my PR on this ride back in 2004. 5 years ago, I was a little younger, little lighter but I actually cruised through the ride.

    My time was 7:05 ride time for the 100 miles and 10,000 ft of climbing. It's a timed event so the ride is recorded on the net in total time which is 7:40 under my name. That was maybe 35 minutes of breaktime. Well this time I hope to break my record but not so sure if it's possible but I'm going to try.

    I figure I might take fewer breaks (like many do) to lower the official time. But if I'm 5 lbs heavier, this may be a minus for my goal as far as climbing speed. But since I didn't really wipe myself out on the ride when I set my PR, I figure I'll tough it out a litle more this time. Maybe things will equal out. Less stopping, bigger effort on the ride.

    From 248 to 232 lbs since Christmas, atleast 7 more by June!

    Do you think it's possible to beat my PR from the past using these "becoming an oldman" stratedgies?

    Whether I beat it or not, it will be nice to climb at a decent pace again. Well I guess when it comes down to it, my main MO is to beat a few skinnies and to do some representin' for the Clydes!...Last time, there were 275 (of the 400) riders behind me on the ride. I'm sure quite a few were skinnies!


    MOVE OUTTA THE WAY SKINNYBOY!!!!!
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    The only reasonable explanation is that those were FAIRY DUSTED FRIES! Please send some over night express mail COD!

    Jerry
    Last edited by Jerry in So IL; 04-22-09 at 02:17 PM. Reason: ops
    I'll be needing that for squirels and such....

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    You can make your own ICE CREAM at home well I use plain yogurt and add fresh strawberries and touch a vanilla and use splenda ! Put that all in my Iice cream maker and It has about 200 calories in a cup and a half and believe me thats more than you think . I miss pizza the most and burgers I luv a nice greasy pizza :O) . I had a couple pieces a few months ago :O/.

    O well I have had my share of burgers and pizza in my life

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    yeah the evil foods will creep up and slap you on the face *LOL* I miss the pizza also but I my will power is pushing past it. When I reach my next weight loss goal Wife and I will head for some yummy sushi... On a low carb diet that will be my treat *LOL*.

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    After talking here I went and ate 2 packs a those Lances peanut butter crackers . I luv the damn things and ended up 200 Calories over for yesterday ! First time I have really ran over in a LONG LONG TIME and 200 calories is not all that much anyway :O) But I am on 1675 calories a day I only add to that when I ride and I have missed riding for 4 days life is getting in the way .

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipes View Post
    O well I have had my share of burgers and pizza in my life
    Quote Originally Posted by scotlandtb View Post
    yeah the evil foods will creep up and slap you on the face *LOL* I miss the pizza also
    I really think this is a bad mentality. If you love pizza and burgers, you should eat pizza and burgers. If you love sushi you should eat it. But, you need to be aware of the caloric content, density, etcetera, and make sure you don't eat enough of them to throw your diet off. Food is a major source of joy for many people, and it's a social thing too. I think demonizing it is really not good for you. Just be aware and moderate what you do. You love a burger, have one every few weeks. You love pizza, grab a slice or two after (before? during! DURING!) a long ride. It seems fairly straightforward to work food you love into a calorie restricted diet on all but the most severe restrictions. And, severe restrictions are short term. You won't be pushing 1500 calories/day forever.

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    I'm lucky.

    You shouldn't beat yourself up. You also shouldn't eliminate the things you enjoy eating (my vices include but not limited to - ultimate jack combos, double/triple whopper meals, double stuff oreos, the garlic butter sauces that come with papa john's pizzas.....) and try to have those in moderation.

    Do you measure yourself? You could be losing fat and gaining muscle?

    I've been weighed, went to the bathroom, had to be reweighed and mysteriously gained weight. And that was in the span of about 10 minutes.

    Remember: Calories in, calories out - if you can stick to that, eat what you want! I do and it is working for me.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by theetruscan View Post
    I really think this is a bad mentality. If you love pizza and burgers, you should eat pizza and burgers. If you love sushi you should eat it. But, you need to be aware of the caloric content, density, etcetera, and make sure you don't eat enough of them to throw your diet off. Food is a major source of joy for many people, and it's a social thing too. I think demonizing it is really not good for you. Just be aware and moderate what you do. You love a burger, have one every few weeks. You love pizza, grab a slice or two after (before? during! DURING!) a long ride. It seems fairly straightforward to work food you love into a calorie restricted diet on all but the most severe restrictions. And, severe restrictions are short term. You won't be pushing 1500 calories/day forever.
    +1. Don't put food on a pedestal.

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    Mr. Beanz,

    Have you heard of Carb cycling. Even with not so good foods when you are super strick with your diet you can add in some not so good foods and your body will reward you for it and think it is not in a fasted state and actually start burning more fat than it normally would.

    This is really helpful when you hit that so called plateau. This is also one of the reasons I have continued to loose pound after pound just riding my bike and not lifting weights as much anymore.

    My opinion anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoaringMad Mac View Post
    Mr. Beanz,

    Have you heard of Carb cycling. Even with not so good foods when you are super strick with your diet you can add in some not so good foods and your body will reward you for it and think it is not in a fasted state and actually start burning more fat than it normally would.

    This is really helpful when you hit that so called plateau. This is also one of the reasons I have continued to loose pound after pound just riding my bike and not lifting weights as much anymore.

    My opinion anyway.
    Carb cycling? .....Hmmm, maybe carb loading, not sure if it's the same thing!

    A few days before long rides I will eat well, lots of veges, not much fat or carbs. Then the night before I eat a big pasta dinner. Same principle as the body storing fat after being starved. Except that I'm storing carbs in the body's memory bank!

    The reason roller coaster diets don't work. Starve the body, then it stores the fats when it gets them cause it thinks it's starving. I do this with carbs. Seems to work for me!

    Is this similar to your idea?

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    A random article on carb cycling:
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/par30.htm

    The basic idea is to rotate through your days. One day is 0 carb, next is low carb, next is high carb. The diet seems to work for weight loss. To my understanding massive protein intake is necessary for this diet to work (>= 1 gm/lb/day).

    Having read more of that article, the dude is way crazier than most. Let me find a better article. Also, he's a weightlifter, so like most of them, he hates on cardio. Whatever, sucker can't catch me up a mountain.
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    Ahhh I see. I'm not really following any special diet. Just a balanced intake. Some protein, some veges and some carbs (not too many). I always eat this way but it's 'Ben and Jerry' that gets me. I cut it out , and no junk food.

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    I had a long reply I just did but somehow the window just disappeared. LOL.

    Your right theetruscan, You don't want to follow a typical Bodybuilder carb cycling diet for a cyclist. I would do a cycle like this using Monday as your 1st day

    Monday Low Carb
    Tuesday Low carb
    Wenesday High carb
    Thursday High carb
    Friday Low carb
    Saturday Low carb
    Sunday High carb with a cheat day

    Use the carb cycling time for what ever days use want and use clean complex carbs for the high days and use the 7th day for cheat day carbs.

    If you use the week-end for some of your longer rides then I would adjust the days to where they fall on high carb days since your body will process them much better when you have burned up so much.

    What carb cycling does is tricks the body into thinking it is going into starvation mode and then loading it up again tricking it into burning more fat. It really does work. I've been successful with it but my downfall when I was not competing was doing cardio. I'm a typical meso endomorph bodystyle that has to keep cardio in my regiment.


    Like I said before I had a long drawn out response before and I don't fell like typing it again. I just cliff-noted what I just said. We talk about all of this over at my site at http://forum.illpumpyouup.com/index.php

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    You didn't cheat, you indulged. Your commitment is still strong, maybe even more so. Sounds like a non incident. Congrats on the achievements and on the goals you will still meet.

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