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    Wheels for a Clyde

    I am looking for a rear mountain wheel 26". I am 400lbs and keep breaking spokes. I have 32 spoke double walled rims. I am looking to upgrade to something very durable that i can ride around on. I mainly do path riding and mostly paved. I occasionaly have to cross some bumps passing driveways and what not. I am hoping to keep the price around $150. I have looked at a couple wheels with halo rims or velocity rims. Halo has a 48 spoke wheel but i can't get it in vbrake. I would like to use my existing brakes with out upgrading to disc if i can. I have heard that some tandem wheels come in 135mm spacing but they seem out of my price range. Any help is greatly appreciated. And please don't just suggest a wheel or rim if you don't have first hand experience with the wheel i need a website or shop that sells them. I have seen a lot of posts that people say get a custom built but don't specify the builder that built their wheel. I live in chicagoland area so if you suggest a custom built wheel please put the LBS or wheel builder with your post, or website to where you bought yours. Thanks again
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    If you don't know the builder or the website if any clydes around 400lbs can tell me what they are running for a rear wheel. I need something sturdy. 26" please
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    I don't understand what you mean when you say you can't get the 48-spoke rim in vbrakes. Do you mean the rim doesn't have a surface suitable for a caliper (rim) brake? I think a 48-spoke wheel would be ideal for you. Once you get one, you will be HAPPY!
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    hiya chucky, i have 36h sun mammoth rims on a deore hub front and steel singlespeed hub on the back and no problems as yet. if you look at the dirt jumping on mtbs you might get some idea cos them guys throw their bikes around. not weight weenies if you know what i mean. the sun mammoth are discontinued but i got them in an online bike shop over here in ireland on discount. i built them up myself following sheldon browns wheel building page. all in all it cost me in euro, 30 for 2 rims, 20 for 2 hubs, 20 for 72 spokes and it took me maybe 2 hours to make them and it was best fun i had in ages seriously. felt great after i had made them myself. i'd recommend it to anyone.

    you probably don't need 48h, granted i am not 400lbs but 36 should be fine for you, alot of people here mention that they are quite happy with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noglider View Post
    I don't understand what you mean when you say you can't get the 48-spoke rim in vbrakes. Do you mean the rim doesn't have a surface suitable for a caliper (rim) brake? I think a 48-spoke wheel would be ideal for you. Once you get one, you will be HAPPY!
    Sorry i meant the halo rim doesn't have rim brake capability. Disc only for the 48h
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    Quote Originally Posted by breadbin View Post
    hiya chucky, i have 36h sun mammoth rims on a deore hub front and steel singlespeed hub on the back and no problems as yet. if you look at the dirt jumping on mtbs you might get some idea cos them guys throw their bikes around. not weight weenies if you know what i mean. the sun mammoth are discontinued but i got them in an online bike shop over here in ireland on discount. i built them up myself following sheldon browns wheel building page. all in all it cost me in euro, 30 for 2 rims, 20 for 2 hubs, 20 for 72 spokes and it took me maybe 2 hours to make them and it was best fun i had in ages seriously. felt great after i had made them myself. i'd recommend it to anyone.

    you probably don't need 48h, granted i am not 400lbs but 36 should be fine for you, alot of people here mention that they are quite happy with them.
    This was my last resort to buy the parts and build myself. I heard a 36 hand built can be really strong. So i might go this route if nothing comes up. However a LBS said they can get me a 48h wheel with a sun rhyno lite rim for about 150 160 range i think this sounds interesting and in my price range. Any thoughts on the rhyno lite rim???
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    I don't know the rhyno lite rim. A 36 spoke wheel might work. A 48 spoke wheel will definitely serve you well. Why not go with what you know will work? You can build or buy a wheel and be DONE with this. Don't you want that?

    I just googled '48 hole rim 26"' and got a few good results. One is at a company called SJS which I don't know. Another at a company in NJ called Tandems East, which I know and have visited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noglider View Post
    I don't know the rhyno lite rim. A 36 spoke wheel might work. A 48 spoke wheel will definitely serve you well. Why not go with what you know will work? You can build or buy a wheel and be DONE with this. Don't you want that?

    I just googled '48 hole rim 26"' and got a few good results. One is at a company called SJS which I don't know. Another at a company in NJ called Tandems East, which I know and have visited.
    Sorry your suggestions only have 145mm or larger width, i would need a 135mm rear hub spacing. Thanks and i will keep looking.
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    I think I'm beginning to understand your problem. It's not the lack of rims, it's the lack of hubs. I just did a bunch more searching on your behalf. There seem to be no MTB hubs with 135mm axle spacing and 48 holes.

    Well, I see there is one with 24 holes. You could drill 24 more holes between the existing holes. But that would be adventurous. You may want to have a machine shop do it for you. And the hub is expensive already. It's a lot of money to pay, and then you'd have to build it or pay for that to be done. But I can assure you that you'd like the result.
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    I just sent an email to the owner of Tandems East on your behalf. He's a tandem expert. When I last spoke to him in 2001, Tandems was his love and his weekend business. He has a salaried job on weekdays with a big company.

    I asked him if it's possible to build or buy the type of wheel you need. If it is, he is likely to know.

    I'm interested in helping you because (1) this is interesting and (2) I think I can. I'm even available to build your wheel for you, if you like, if we can just get our hands on the right parts!
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    Is your frame steel or aluminum? If steel, it wouldn't be too hard to respace the rear triangle to 145 mm. That would make using a tandem wheel easy.

    I've been out of the business for many years and don't know if it's safe or easy to respace an aluminum frame. Does anyone know?
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    PM me if you have no wheel luck--I'm an excellent wheelbuilder, have a business in Washington State, and am a dealer for all of the products--Sun, Velocity, Phil Wood--that can make a wheel to suit a heavy person. Good on you for cycling!

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    i think i have found a hub. Halo spin doctor 48h 135mm now it's just a matter of either building a wheel, going with the rhyno lite 48h, or settling for a less expensive 36h wheel.

    My frame is aluminum so i don't think i can re-space for a tandem wheel. I will be checking out the exact price of this 48h rhyno lite and if reasonable i might go with it, if not i will be looking for someone to build a rhno lite or salsa gordo 48h wheel for me. Thanks guys for offering to build the wheel if you want to send me some prices with the parts i suggest would be great. Halo spin doctor 48h hub and salsa gordo 48h rim. Or if you know of a better more durable rim. I was also looking into this new velocity chukker rim. I think it comes out next month. Supposed to be even beefier than the original Deep V. Let me know your thoughts.
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    Here is the reply I got back from the Tandem guy:

    from Tandems East <contact@tandemseast.com>
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    date Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:18 PM

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    Yes Tom I can get this wheel built. No problem using a White Ind hub 135 48 hole a Salsa Gordo 26" rim silver 48 hole
    Cost to do this is $398.00 plus shipping approx $35.00 per wheel
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    So I guess if Mel likes the Salsa Gordo rim, it's a good one.

    $400 is a lot to pay, though it's not a ripoff as an asking price.

    So you think you want to try building it, to save money? A 48h wheel is harder to build than a wheel with fewer spokes.
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    I see you can get the MI6 hub here for $230. It has the disc brake fitting. The MI5 doesn't have that, but it doesn't come in 48h. It does come in 40h, which sounds like an even rarer beast than 48h. Are there 40h rims around these days? Something to consider to save a little money. Still, I like the idea of you getting one wheel that just never fails.
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    I think for my price range i am going to go with a 36h wheel. My LBS keep suggesting the sun rhyno lite. Can anyone give me advice i was looking at the salsa gordo, the velocity cliffhanger, and the WTB dual duty, any help is great. and i want to run 26 x1.5 tires mainly for road and paved paths.
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    I see on the web a lot of praise for both the salsa gordo and the velocity rims.

    Given that you want to save money, 36h is a reasonable choice. If you can afford them, get double butted spokes.

    What do you inflate your tires to?
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    Chucky,

    I haven't used ryhno lites but can relate that they were, some time ago, considered one of the stronger rims around. I ended up with Mavic hoops on my mountain bike do to solely "deal" pricing that was available to me at the time. Had it not been for that, rhyno lites would have been my first choice.

    I haven't chimed in before, because my 26" experience is quite dated and you stated you were looking for folks with first hand experience.
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    I just did a search and it seems that the ryhno lites have been made in several versions over the years, with differing experiences depending upon when they were made. Look for welded, not pinned, rims. Beyond that, I have no idea about when and how any changes were made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noglider View Post
    I see on the web a lot of praise for both the salsa gordo and the velocity rims.

    Given that you want to save money, 36h is a reasonable choice. If you can afford them, get double butted spokes.

    What do you inflate your tires to?
    i use high pressure tires and inflate to about 85 90 psi
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigfred View Post
    Chucky,

    I haven't used ryhno lites but can relate that they were, some time ago, considered one of the stronger rims around. I ended up with Mavic hoops on my mountain bike do to solely "deal" pricing that was available to me at the time. Had it not been for that, rhyno lites would have been my first choice.

    I haven't chimed in before, because my 26" experience is quite dated and you stated you were looking for folks with first hand experience.
    thank your for comments/ First hand experience is always good even if a little dated. Thanks again.
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    I forgot who said it but a very well respected mechanic was one of the people giving praise for Velocity rims. I would respect that opinion.

    90 psi doesn't sound like enough if you're 400 lbs. I'm not sure, but I would try 110 or 120. These are 26x1.5 tires or something like that, right? More pressure in your tires makes your rims and spokes last longer. Wider tires help, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noglider View Post
    I forgot who said it but a very well respected mechanic was one of the people giving praise for Velocity rims. I would respect that opinion.

    90 psi doesn't sound like enough if you're 400 lbs. I'm not sure, but I would try 110 or 120. These are 26x1.5 tires or something like that, right? More pressure in your tires makes your rims and spokes last longer. Wider tires help, too.
    You do realise that rims are designed for a certain amount of pressure and exceeding it without reducing tire width, can cause the sides of the rim to bend outward, destroying the rim. On a bicycle with rim brakes this affects the braking surface and can result in brake failure. One should always check the specification for the rim and tire, while you can exceed the maximum pressure rating for a tire, nobody really knows (except possibly the tire manufacturer) by how much. One 90PSI tire might be happy at 120PSI, another one might not.

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