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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 05-09-09, 08:34 AM   #1
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Back in the Saddle again!

Went for my first ride in over 15 years this morning before breakfast. (Not including the test ride around the parking lot of the LBS where I bought it)

It was a short ride, only a 3/4 of a mile but in that short distance 3 things came to mind.

1. It shows that I have been off of a bicycle for a long time, but it also shows that I used to ride, alot. I still get a complete kick out of being on two wheels and i don't mean the Harley.

B. It was hard going even that 3/4 of a mile, now admittedly I was shifting through the gears seeing how they worked so know doubt I burned a lot of energy in the wrong gears as I tested it out.

i. I gotta think about getting a fat butt seat, that was a wee bit uncomfortable, admittedly I was wearing thin jogging pants but I might still look into one.

When I got back I had breakfast, no not bacon, eggs, and toast. I had salad, simple mixed greens without the extras that make salad not as healthy as it starts out being.

Which also brought something else to mind, I do not think I will last on an anything "only" diet. It becomes boring quickly. I need variety, so I will be embarking on a soup and salad nutrition plan, a salad and single serving of non-fried protein nutrition plan, and a single serving of protein and non buttered vegetable nutrition plan. Which in short means that I will eat real food, varied food, healthy food.

In truth I will start at salads only until I get my soups going, nothing in the larder at present. Then when that gets dull I will switch.
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Old 05-09-09, 03:21 PM   #2
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What would you normally have for breakfast? If youre cycling more and more you will need more than a salad Well I would anyway. In my experience the more you change your diet from the normal the shorter it lasts. Start with small changes and be encouraged in the fact you are cycling.
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Old 05-09-09, 04:35 PM   #3
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LOL! My first ride back was crippling. A 1 mile ride around the neighborhood. I came home, curled up into a ball and took a nap.

About a year later I completed my first unsupported century and easily do 15-25 a day.
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LOL! My first ride back was crippling. A 1 mile ride around the neighborhood. I came home, curled up into a ball and took a nap.

About a year later I completed my first unsupported century and easily do 15-25 a day.
I remember your report of that first ride.
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Old 05-09-09, 05:09 PM   #5
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Never was a breakfast eater. Like cereal sometimes but over all not into breakfast. Had it today because I forgot to eat yesterday, too busy with work. So for lunch I had small steak on George Foreman and...a salad. Will ride again Sunday, then again everyday. Going to work up to riding to the gym, working out, riding home. To think Years ago I commuted to/from work by bike. Till the crack in the pavement ditched me and broke the handlebars. Stem actually. Happy Pedaling!
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Old 05-09-09, 05:19 PM   #6
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When I say a salad, I mean a bag of field greens salad mix. 3 or 4 servings in bag, 15 calories per serving. Forced myself to do it so I would be full and not be snacking. I hated it at end but it worked. Lot of eating, little caloric intake. Regular as the US Mail too. Used to use food for acceptance I didn't get from people so I used to eat, eat, eat, and eat. Could have a meal then have another meal, etc... This way, I am covered. I know my mindset towards food has changed but I'm covered just in case.
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Old 05-09-09, 05:30 PM   #7
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Salad for breakfast? Yech! Ask most cyclists about breakfast and invariably, you'll hear mentions of oatmeal (with or w/o dried fruit and maple syrup), bagels w/ peanut butter (carbs & protein!), fruit smoothies, etc. What they're basically saying is eat food that will give you useful energy if you're cycling/jogging/exercising that day. Bring a water bottle w/ you on longer rides, and keep riding. The max distance will shoot up quickly.
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Old 05-09-09, 05:55 PM   #8
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Welcome back! It won't be long before the distance and speed that you can do will amaze you.

Keep a positive attitude and keep pushing along. Use these forums but don't believe everything you read. You will get the details worked out as you go.
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Breakfast

Yeah, I know but I never have liked oatmeal. Warm cereal, yuck... Grape Nuts was my thing, along with Crispix or any Chex cereal. I guess I need to do things differently cause what I was doing didn't work. On the other hand, I read an article about one cyclist where he said he eats beef stew for breakfast. Truthfully it's merely the first meal of the day so in that light doesn't need to be "breakfast" food. In fact it makes sense to eat the stew cause that would be the highest caloric intake then taper off towards end of day.
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Bagels, Oatmeal

I have plenty of carbs stored in my big fat a... So I think I will skip the bagels and oatmeal actually. Lol!
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I have plenty of carbs stored in my big fat a... So I think I will skip the bagels and oatmeal actually. Lol!
The problem with the carbs stored up in your don-key, is that they are not readily available for riding, this can mean that on higher intensity rides, and for the larger clyde any ride can be a high intensity ride It's easy to find oneself experiencing The Bonk, what runners call hitting the wall. What it really means is that your energy level has just dropped to the minimum safe level, and in order to keep the required parts of the body (including itself) going, the brain pulls the plug on everything else. Essentially about the only think you can do is pull over, get off, sit on the ground hoping you don't pass out.

I like Oatmeal at 30℉, I don't like it at 30℃
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Mazama, from a 1 mile ride to a century in a year. That's pretty impressive
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LOL! My first ride back was crippling. A 1 mile ride around the neighborhood. I came home, curled up into a ball and took a nap.

About a year later I completed my first unsupported century and easily do 15-25 a day.
, yea, my first ride was 4.2 and I thought I was going to stroke. I could not turn off the sweat machine and went and took a cold shower to cool the body down. It was sad I had let myself get into that shape.

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In truth I will start at salads only until I get my soups going, nothing in the larder at present. Then when that gets dull I will switch.
Oh that is not good, you need to keep your levels at 50% Carbs, 30% Proteins and 20% to build muscle or you will start losing what ever muscle you have and really reduce capability. You ride as often as possible and make sure you get in some other form of exercise to throw off the plateau monster. Lift weights if you can, helps build muscle and burn fat. I have seen my avg speed go up almost 2 mph over the last 8 months by just adding weights to my routine as well as my ability to ride in the wind has improved.

Keep it up and enjoy the riding.
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I hate eating breakfast. I do it every morning. Sometimes I'm even hungry. But I really don't like cooking in the morning, and I don't like milk so cereal is a horrible experience, I despise oatmeal, and I'm not sure putting a sharp knife and slippery bagel in my hands is such a good idea moments after waking up.

But I do it anyway. My breakfast the last few months has been a bowl of some kind of flake cereal with oat clusters and almonds with some vanilla almond milk. I've gone through 5 or 6 different cereals playing Goldilocks -- this cereal is too sweet, this cereal tastes like wood chips, and this cereal turns the milk blue, but this one is just right (for now)! Also an orange and a cup of tea.

Lunch is a chore too. If I'm smart I have leftovers. If I'm not smart I have a veggie sub. If I'm smarter I'll make a smoothie.

Basically, I wait the whole day for supper. I love supper! So many flavours, textures and choices! And time, I actually have time to make supper because the only I have planned for after supper is sleep.

But congrats on getting your bike! I hope you have loads and loads of fun on it. You mention that you want to get a bigger seat -- I did that and found I couldn't extend my leg fully when pedalling. I know your backside probably hurts a bit (and possibly will more after a longer ride) but as long as your bike is set up for your measurements, consider that the pain is more your body breaking into the new bike and the cycling routine. Once you've tweaked the bike to fit you, and you've ridden for a while and figured out what "beginner pain" is versus "this saddle was made by the devil".
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When I returned to cycling 20 months ago, I'd been pretty much out of the saddle for 30 years. I ate breakfast once or twice a week (typically included biscuits and gravy) but decided that I couldn't ride if I didn't eat. Started eating some toast with peanut butter and added a banana if I was planning a longer ride. Made a huge difference in my energy level. And the saddle pain will go away. Don't give in to the big fluffly saddle, it will hurt you in the end.
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I use a touring seat from a vintage Raleigh. It's got some big springs on the underside to cushion the ride, but with the seat at the proper angle I can pedal using the butt bones, which I am told is how you're supposed to do it. For longer rides I wear padded cycling shorts, which helps.
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Stored fat

I was on this diet where you only drank their proprietary shake mix. It was all nutritionally designed, not the "Slim" variety of products in the stores. The stuff was high protein and low carbs and using it exclusively would get that fat burning off the rear in a week's time. Weight loss of 5#/wk were doable but the 3-4 # range was more realistic (for me anyway) the stuff worked. The problem was it is expensive, $100/wk and it gets boring quick. It tastes great and is less filling but realized that while I did not miss food, I missed the experience of eating food, the chewing the crunch, etc. The biggest part was the social factor, sharing a meal with friends and family. I would drink my drink and be done. I may try that again initially but long term I don't know if that will work for the aforementioned reasons.
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But congrats on getting your bike! I hope you have loads and loads of fun on it. You mention that you want to get a bigger seat -- I did that and found I couldn't extend my leg fully when pedalling. I know your backside probably hurts a bit (and possibly will more after a longer ride) but as long as your bike is set up for your measurements, consider that the pain is more your body breaking into the new bike and the cycling routine. Once you've tweaked the bike to fit you, and you've ridden for a while and figured out what "beginner pain" is versus "this saddle was made by the devil".
I thought about that recently. I read in another forum where someone wanted to switch seats and was told the stndrd seat is better for riding on a long term basis. The plushies don't do so well over time and distance like the standard stuff so I was thinking I will wait to see how that goes.

Thanks for the info. As for other exercise I have had a Bally's membership since the 90's I guess I will finally use it, ha!
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Second Day...In a row!

This will be my last daily update for awhile, I didn't want to do this one but I have to do it. I went for my second ride this morning. 1.5 miles, it was a struggle just like the 3/4 mile first ride yesterday but I did it and without a break. With this doubling of my mileage I will be riding 48 miles per day at the end of this week, oops since I started on saturday that will be 96. Next week it will be 3000 miles yeah..... Too bad that only works for pennies and investments.

After riding I ate breakfast again only cause I didn't eat anything yesterday after lunch. So breakfast this time was a medium sized steak ala George Foreman. I did look at Oatmeal though, I was doing some wee hours of the morning shopping (okay last minute Mothers day shopping) I went down the cereal aisle and looked at Oatmeal, even touched a box or two of the weight management type.

I am moving to a weekly update and will continue that as I journey from here (fat) to there (fit).


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Old 05-10-09, 03:01 PM   #20
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Steak for breakfast? lol I don't knowMy body wouldn't handle a steak that early. I eat breakfast every morning usually corn flakes with honey and milk. In winter I have porridge with brown sugar and peanut butter Nice! Trouble is I have it straight away after I get up. I was told by my osteopath that I should leave it an hour before breakfast each day cos my pancreas has an important job to do that time. Haven't been able to so far though good luck with the cycling though - keep it up. I like the suggestion about 50% carbs etc. Bang on!
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