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    A newb in need of advise...

    Ok, here goes. I haven't ridden a bike since high school, but lately i've had a nasty itch to start riding again. I'm a rather large guy. I'm 6'10' and about 270-290 depending on the day. I'm not fat, just big. Running kills my knees and swimming in less than an olympic size pool is pointless when it come to exercise. SO, i have decided that biking could become a great source of low impact, fun, exercise.

    That being said, i have done a little research at a bunch of LBS'. From what i gather i will need a bike in the XXL, 23'-25', or 58cm-61cm range. Also understanding that i am not a person with a $1000 in my wallet just aching to be spent, i am trying not to break the bank on my first bike.

    Now, I have looked at the Trek 4500, the Specialized RockHopper, and the (i think) Specialized Crosstrail Sport as the primary options right now that come in larger frames that would fit me and also not break my financially.

    I am here to hopefully get some advise on what would be my best bet.

    I've been told that my weight will play a factor into certain areas of the bike like double walled rims, quality of shocks, etc. as thinks i should pay a little more attention to.

    Also, i've heard that 29ers are good bikes, but is it possible to get into one thats gonna hold up, be comfortable for street and trail, and not break the bank?

    Anyway, your advise is much appreciated. Thank you guys.

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    Unfortunately, as you probably already know from buying clothes........you're almost certainly going to need to go custom, and you're certainly going to need more than $1000 as well. A bike in the size range you mentioned will be much too small and just exacerbate your knee problems unless its got an incredibly long seatpost, stem and crank.

    The two best known names I've heard of making bikes for tall fellows are Serotta and Zinn Cycles, indeed I just read a little article by Lennard Zinn in the back of Velo News a couple months ago, he had built a bike for Bill Cartwright, the former Chicago Bulls coach (he's 7-1, 275 or so). I'd guess your height translates to more like a 68-71cm frame size, and I've just never seen that before

    Best of luck, though!

    Tom

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    ouch, thats a big sting.

    well i've narrowed it down to three, I think, the Specialized rockhopper, the trek 4500, and the giant yukon.

    Giant Yukon

    size14(XS),16(S),18(M),20(L),22(XL),24(2XL)colorWhite, Brushed/CharcoalframeALUXX-Grade Butted AluminumforkRockShox Dart 1, 100mmshiftersShimano Alivio Rapidfirefront derailleurShimano Acerarear derailleurShimano DeorebrakesHayes MX-4 Discbrake leversTektro Alloy, 2-FingercassetteSRAM PG820 11-32, 8-speedchainKMC Z72cranksTruVative ISO Flow 3.0, 22/32/42bbTruVativ PowersplinerimsWTB Dual Duty, Double WallhubsFormula 32H DiscspokesStainless steeltiresKenda Nevegal 26 x 2.1handlebarAlloy 31.8mm, High RisestemAlloyseatpostAlloy 350x30.9mmsaddleUnity Speed Groove MTBpedalsAlloy Platform
    Specialized Rockhopper


    FRAME
    Specialized M4 Manipulated Alloy frame, fully butted, ORE DT, forged dropouts w/ replaceable 98954020 hanger
    REAR SHOCK
    FORK
    RockShox Dart 3 SL, 100mm, alloy steerer, preload and rebound adj. w/ LO, 13/15": standard spring, all others: "stiff" spring
    HEADSET
    Specialized 1-1/8" threadless, loose ball
    STEM
    Specialized 3D forged, 4-bolt, 7 degree rise, 31.8mm clamp
    HANDLEBARS
    Specialized alloy, 31.8mm, 25mm rise, 640mm wide, 8 degree back sweep, 8 degree up, 2.8mm thick
    GRIPS
    Specialized Enduro, dual compound Kraton, no flange, 131mm
    FRONT BRAKE
    Alloy linear pull w/ adj. housing, 1pc. pad
    REAR BRAKE
    Alloy linear pull w/ adj. housing, 1pc. pad
    BRAKE LEVERS
    Specialized linear pull
    FRONT DERAILLEUR
    Shimano Altus, 34.9mm clamp, top swing
    REAR DERAILLEUR
    SRAM X-5, med. cage
    SHIFT LEVERS
    SRAM X-4, 8-speed
    CASSETTE
    SRAM PG-830, 8-speed, 11-32t
    CHAIN
    KMC X8 w/ reuseable Missing Link
    CRANKSET
    8-Speed, XC shape, Octalink Spline
    CHAINRINGS
    42S x 32S x 22S
    BOTTOM BRACKET
    Shimano BB-ES25, Octalink spline, cartridge bearings, 68mm x 118mm
    PEDALS
    Steel cage, composite body, 9/16"
    RIMS
    Specialized RHD 26", double wall, pinned, CNC sidewalls w/ eyelets, 28/32h
    FRONT HUB
    Specialized, forged alloy, double sealed, ground race, steel QR, 28h
    REAR HUB
    Specialized, forged alloy, double sealed, ground race, cassette, QR, 32h
    SPOKES
    1.8mm (15g) stainless
    FRONT TIRE
    Specialized Fast Trak LK Sport, 26x2.0", 60TPI, wire bead
    REAR TIRE
    Specialized Fast Trak LK Sport, 26x2.0", 60TPI, wire bead
    INNER TUBES
    Specialized schraeder valve
    SADDLE
    Specialized XC, Body Geometry, 143mm width, front and rear bumpers
    SEATPOST
    Specialized alloy two bolt, micro adjust head, 30.9mm
    SEAT BINDER
    Specialized alloy w/ QR, brass washer
    NOTES
    Chain stay protector, reflectors, clear coat, owners manual

    trek 4500

    Sizes 13, 16, 18, 19.5, 21, 22.5, 24" Frame Alpha Black Aluminum w/externally relieved head tube, hydroformed bi-axial down tube, monostay seatstays, forged disc ready dropouts Front Suspension RockShox Dart 2.5 w/preload, lockout, 100mm Wheels Wheels Shimano M475 disc hubs; Bontrager Camino, 32-hole rims w/eyelets, machined sidewalls Tires Bontrager Jones ACX, 26x2.1"; 27 tpi Drivetrain Shifters Shimano Deore, 9 speed Front Derailleur Shimano Alivio Rear Derailleur Shimano Deore Crank Shimano Alivio 42/32/22 Cassette SRAM PG950 11-34, 9 speed Pedals Alloy platform Components Saddle Bontrager Race Lux Basic Seat Post Bontrager SSR, 20mm offset Handlebars Bontrager SSR Riser, 25mm rise, 620mm width, 6 degree bend Stem Bontrager SSR, 10 degree Headset VP-A76C-TK, 1 1/8" semi-cartridge, sealed Brakeset Avid SD-3 w/alloy levers

    What would you pick?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FZ1Tom View Post
    Unfortunately, as you probably already know from buying clothes........you're almost certainly going to need to go custom, and you're certainly going to need more than $1000 as well. A bike in the size range you mentioned will be much too small and just exacerbate your knee problems unless its got an incredibly long seatpost, stem and crank.

    The two best known names I've heard of making bikes for tall fellows are Serotta and Zinn Cycles, indeed I just read a little article by Lennard Zinn in the back of Velo News a couple months ago, he had built a bike for Bill Cartwright, the former Chicago Bulls coach (he's 7-1, 275 or so). I'd guess your height translates to more like a 68-71cm frame size, and I've just never seen that before

    Best of luck, though!

    Tom

    +1

    You will need to go the custom route. I ride a 60cm and im only 6,2. you are more in the 70cm range

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    You need to shoot mazama a PM. He can really help you out, being around 6'13" or thereabouts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe View Post
    You need to shoot mazama a PM. He can really help you out, being around 6'13" or thereabouts.

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    And/or cliftongk...he is 6'8" or some ginormous height
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    This is over the $1000 mark, but is available in custom sizing, and Gunnar makes a superior quality frame.

    http://www.gunnarbikes.com/custom.php

    I'd look at the Grand tour.....
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    I'm 6'9" 285 and ride an older Giant Yukon 25". I put riser bars on it, street tires, and it isn't a bad fit for riding around. I looked at the Trek 4500 too at the time.

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    You can find some old frames in 27" on Ebay; Raleigh, among others. They can be refinished if they are not in top condition. The so-called XXL frames you mentioned don't seem big enough for you.
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    Consider a folding bike as they are easier to store and transport to where ever you will be biking.

    exercise -bikes are very efficient, the efficiency means you do not burn many calories.
    double walled rims -(get a higher spoke count)
    quality of shocks -$$$$, cheaper would be a saddle with springs on the back, and foam hand grips.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geo8rge View Post
    exercise -bikes are very efficient, the efficiency means you do not burn many calories.
    Well, no, you wouldn't burn as many calories as if you walked, ran, or swan the exact same mileage. Bikes are more efficient that way. But because of that efficiency you can go a lot farther and faster than those other methods. You can probably burn calories as fast as you want on a bike depending on how hard you push it.
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    thank you for all the advise. much appreciated. i know how annoying random new guys can be on forums.

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    You know, I got the "right" size mtb and wound up wishing I got something smaller, although the trails around here are very tight, twisty singletrack which favors manouverability. If you don't want to blow a lot of cash on a custom frame, maybe try the larger standard sizes. See if they'll let you try one out. I "need" a 22" MTB frame but prefer throwing a little 17" cruiser around tight singletrack.

    I don't know if a 29'er would work, though, because your toes might interfere with the front wheel.
    Last edited by garage sale GT; 05-17-09 at 10:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe View Post
    You need to shoot mazama a PM. He can really help you out, being around 6'13" or thereabouts.
    Barndoor could be another contact. He's 6' 7". IIRC.

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