(Sorry for the title, but I could not change it after submitting it. My daughter was not hurt in any way, so read on) Tonight my 14 year old and I went on a ride that I had promised that I would do with her. She has been wanting to take me on a ride that covers her school bus route. I was fairly sure I knew where it went, so I had no concerns about the roads and such. It proved to be a little harder then she thought. It is a route that I use all the time that is 17 miles with 900 feet of elevation gain. I let her lead so I did not wear her out with my pace, and I rode my old ridged MTB so I would not be to fast. Even with that, she ended up walking one of the bigger hills towards the end. I don't think that it helped her cause by speeding up every time I got close to her. (I have no idea where she got that competitive nature from) Anyway, after we got home, I told her how proud I was of her, plus I mentioned how long the ride was. She had no reference of how long 17 miles was, so I told her it was like riding to the far side of the next town. With that she seemed proud of herself too. As soon as we got in the front door she headed right for bed and I have not heard from her since. Maybe I killed her with tonight's ride.