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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 05-26-09, 12:02 PM   #1
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Weight Loss Formula

Just as many/most have said here, calories in < calories out.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30826120
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Old 05-26-09, 12:09 PM   #2
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" ďItís that itís harder to lose weight with exercise than diet.Ē Thatís not surprising when you consider that it might take an hour to burn 400 calories but just five minutes to consume them. "
Try five seconds to consume them.
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Old 05-26-09, 03:44 PM   #3
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Just as many/most have said here, calories in < calories out.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30826120
The problem with this kind of report, is that it often takes bits and pieces from a study to put together a newsworthy article. It's not uncommon for a study like this, to run hundreds of pages many exceed 1,000 pages. the news article is maybe a page or two.

One very important piece of information articles almost always leave out, is who paid for the study and why was it commissioned. Often the organization that commissioned a study and paid for it has a vested interest in the result. That usually means the study is intended to find that result. I would not be surprised to find this particular study commissioned by someone selling something in the diet industry.
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Bicycling does not burn many calories about 500/hr or 2 snicker bars per hour for the casual rider. If you are planning to lose weight you really need to cut down on calories, unless you can bicycle all day.

http://caloriecount.about.com/activities-bicycling-ac1
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The eat nothing after 7:00 PM is also busted. As long as what you are eating is part of your normal daily intake and not an extra banana split (or 2) just before bed.
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Bicycling does not burn many calories about 500/hr or 2 snicker bars per hour for the casual rider. If you are planning to lose weight you really need to cut down on calories, unless you can bicycle all day.

http://caloriecount.about.com/activities-bicycling-ac1
I wonder how that would change if it didn't assume I weigh 150 lb
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Old 05-26-09, 08:03 PM   #7
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I wonder how that would change if it didn't assume I weigh 150 lb
http://www.caloriesperhour.com/index_burn.php

However I do think these are very optimistic. Like the treadmill calculators, a friend said according to one he burned 2200 cals/hr, I think they are more for motivation. I think it is very hard to get over 600-700 cals/hr.
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Subtracting 500 calories from your daily diet is not that hard. Just doing that alone can net the 3500 calories needed to burn up to a pound of fat a week. That added in with exercise does just more than burn fat. The feeling we get alone with exercise helps us control calorie consumption to begin with.
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I just bought my first bike today, first ride tomorrow. Six weeks ago, I weighed 220 and started cutting my diet and using my elliptical trainer. Now I weigh 207. The elliptical is effective but boring. I'm hoping the bike makes the weight losing more fun.
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Subtracting 500 calories from your daily diet is not that hard. Just doing that alone can net the 3500 calories needed to burn up to a pound of fat a week. That added in with exercise does just more than burn fat. The feeling we get alone with exercise helps us control calorie consumption to begin with.
Agree 100%. When I first got put on a diet (I didn't go voluntarily) I had to write down what I was eating. On day one it was business as usual and I wrote it all down. My calorie intake was STAGGERING.

Big wake up call. Nobody and I mean nobody needs more than 2000 calories a day (and lets add a qualifier) unless you're really burning a ton as well, however the reality is if we were burning a ton we wouldn't be calling ourselves Clydes.

2000 calories can be as much if not more food than anyone is eating now IF IT'S THE RIGHT FOOD.

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I'm convinced that Most people in America have an eating disorder called gluttony. Eat less and lose weight. it's that simple.
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It's not helpful that portion size has changed over the years, or at least the calorie count of a portion. A 'portion' of my mom's pork chops at home, with mashed and skins and applesauce could be a heaping plateful. A portion of a BK value meal will eclipse that AND the rest of my day as well, and can be easily consumed with one hand.

If you don't know what a portion is its difficult (not undoable) to monitor your intake unless you really make a conscious effort.


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Not only has the portion sized changed but the food companies are substituting fillers in the food to cheapen it up for them and it's a health nightmare for us.

It's actually quite scandalous.

Portion control is easy if nutritional data is provided. From there on out it just requires a scale.

Once you've seen what 3 oz. of beef or chicken is you got it within a small margin of error. Get familiar with portion size at home and then hit the real world.

And like it or not there's stuff you gotta give up. I won't eat french fries anymore when doing the fast food thing. I actually decided I didn't like them that much a while back. Of course this is after eating them as a main staple of my diet for years.

I love those Eat This, Not That books.

They ARE NOT the answer but they're a very good resource. When you go somewhere they can help you make the BEST AVAILABLE choice.

Wanna know what I learned also? You don't have to eat stuff just because you're somewhere. My wife and kid go out for ice cream regularly and I go with them. They serve coffee. I love coffee. Plain black coffee. I love it as much as ice cream. Problem solved.

You either control the food or it controls you.

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It's not helpful that portion size has changed over the years, or at least the calorie count of a portion. A 'portion' of my mom's pork chops at home, with mashed and skins and applesauce could be a heaping plateful. A portion of a BK value meal will eclipse that AND the rest of my day as well, and can be easily consumed with one hand.

If you don't know what a portion is its difficult (not undoable) to monitor your intake unless you really make a conscious effort.
This is because the amount of fat on the pork chop, 40 years ago was pretty small, and mom probably trimmed most of that off. Now the animals are grown in tiny cages and loaded up with growth hormone and anitbiotics, and the meat which is 50% fat is ground up and processed so that the fat content of that burger is about 10 times as much as that pork chop 40 years ago.
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For the past month, I've counted every calorie consumed. Eating only at home and measuring portions. It's a pretty good education. Now when I think of eating something, I consider whether it fits in my diet. Hopefully, this will carry over and become a habit.
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I'm using a free iPhone app called Lose It to log my food - almost as I eat it. Big database of food, supermarket brands and restaurant food. My target is to lose 1.5lbs a week and then keep it off. Process should take about a year to hit goal weight and gives me plenty of time to develop better habits. I eat way better than a 5 years ago - but I still eat way too much. Process, process, process.
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Also what what you drink. Consuming beers or drinks with a lot of sugar can cause problems with your effort to lose weight. Trust me I know



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However I do think these are very optimistic. Like the treadmill calculators, a friend said according to one he burned 2200 cals/hr, I think they are more for motivation. I think it is very hard to get over 600-700 cals/hr.
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Great site. I just spent about an hour on it. I feel re-inspired and re-motivated. I'm at almost 60lbs off right now but am at a major standstill. I haven't lost for a couple of months. I do WW but I think additionally calorie counting might benefit me. Thanks again for posting the site.
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2000 calories can be as much if not more food than anyone is eating now IF IT'S THE RIGHT FOOD.
I cleaned up my diet about a month ago, then started counting my cals last week to see where I was at. I found that some days I'm not eating enough; 2000 calories is a whole lot of food when it's primarily lean protien & veggies. I never have to worry about being hungry between meals now that I'm on a healthy 2000 cal diet.

Back when I was eating fast food all the time it was normal for me to eat 2000+ cals in 1 meal, then be hungry again 2-3 hours later. No wonder I got fat!

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