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    Well they kicked me out of the gym

    Let me take you back in time, all the way back to yesterday.... per usual I was getting around to head to the gym for my daily walk and my phone rings. Tony, the manager at the gym that I have been working out at for the last two months, has called to give me the news. "While we are all proud of the dedication that I have shown and the progress that I have made."...."You are welcome to use the free weights and the circuit equipment. Please don't use the cardio equipment any more." I/E the stuff I need to use......sigh...
    So now I have to join a new gym on Monday and will have to drive 23 miles (one way) ...and hope I don't wear out any more treadmills

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    Hmmm...just ride your bike 23 miles and back, and you won't need the gym...
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    WTF??? you can't use the cardio???? May I ask how big are you?
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    Okay, color me dense, but what kind of gym tells you what equipment you can and can't use? Are you paying to use this gym? If so, why isn't your money good enough for all the equipment?
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    Did the manager give a specific reason why you can't use the cardio equipment? If so, is there a list of rules that include this reason?

    Something smells here.

    Do they advertise that only slender and in shape folks need join?

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    I believe there's a strong possibility of a discrimination case here....

    1) Was there any limitation posted on their equipment weight?
    2) Does your membership contract have any anguage in it limiting access to equipment?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe View Post
    I believe there's a strong possibility of a discrimination case here....

    1) Was there any limitation posted on their equipment weight?
    2) Does your membership contract have any anguage in it limiting access to equipment?



    I'd be thoroughly honked, myself.
    Darn straight. Heck, I'm already "honked".

    If OP is willing, I'm sure we can find a link or two to a local paper ot two. Even the gym probably has an e-mail link.

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    Holy crap!? Ummm...most of that cardio equipment is way better than what you or I could buy, and I know people that are 300+ easy and use cardio at Gold's and the local Y. I would go regional, or at least look for the area manager.
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    They must have some fragile treadmills.. Most commercial quality treadmills are good up to 400 pounds..

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    I'd ask for ALL my money back. Every cent I ever gave them. Pending that I'd say it's time to talk to a lawyer.

    Discrimination. Period.

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    I fully agree with Tom and Trek here: Talk to a good attorney. For everyone's sake, sue those Bozo's into the Twilight Zone!
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    Woops sry OK, let me enlighten everyone, I do exceed the weight cap for the equip they have. It is rated for 350lbs, when I started walking there I was at 526lbs. I am currently at 476 down 50lbs. They had some rollers go out on one of the treadmills Twice and it linked back to my weight. (most likely correct) They said I would be welcome to use it once I reached 400lbs (still exceeding the limit). This is no more a discrimination issue then paying for two seats when flying. It is just a reality of being this size. What I would have preferred is if they offered to lease a higher limit treadmill and maybe split the diff for a couple of months (when I will be at 400) This is not what they did so I found another gym. Its all good people but thanks for the support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by takingcontrol View Post
    This is no more a discrimination issue then paying for two seats when flying. It is just a reality of being this size.
    And you're handling it like a champ. Keep up the good work, and keep making progress. However, I do think they should have had the cajones to talk to you in person rather than on the phone.

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    Keep at it TC. Did you present the idea of splitting the cost with them for some up sized equipment?
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    If you have a contract, the gym is violating your contract and you are entitled to get your money back. And, they are discriminating against you based on your size and disability. If you do not get a prompt refund, contact a lawyer...you may end up owning that gym.

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    Ya know what? A bunch of you are reminding me why I'm happy to no longer be living in the what used to be The Good Ole' U.S. of A.! Without consideration for the fact the TC has apparently been in contact with the manager and that it's sounds as though they had a civil conversation with regard to the impact his weight has on the equipment they own, you're first response is SUE! SUE! SUE! Come on folks! TC is at 476 lbs and the gyms equipment is only rated to 350. They're even agreeing to see him back on it at 400, when he makes it there. It doesn't sound like they want to discourage him or even get him out of the gym. Good Grief! :facepalm:
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    TC, You are doing great! At 312 I do know some of what your talking about and I think you handled this spot on. I dont think you need to sue anyone. I think you should transfer your frustration into miles of cardio at your new house of pain! I am proud of you TC, You Pump Me Up!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustyoldbikes View Post
    If you have a contract, the gym is violating your contract and you are entitled to get your money back. And, they are discriminating against you based on your size and disability. If you do not get a prompt refund, contact a lawyer...you may end up owning that gym.
    It appears that the OP might have a case, if he wants to devote the time and negative energy to it. But that's an awful lot of negative energy to deal with. And this perhaps isn't quite the slam-dunk discrimination case some folks think it is.

    The gym can always point to some clause in their agreement that requires the member to make 'proper use' of the equipment, or not 'abuse' equipment, or some other words designed to protect the gym in case of damage or injury. The weight limit of the machine is probably displayed somewhere; if it's not, the gym is probably at fault. However, it's hard to see them liable for more than refunding the OP's membership fee. This isn't like the case of the Gold's Gym location that terminated the membership of a fellow with Tourette's Syndrome because he made noises that bothered a couple of folks. He's not being discriminated against; he's merely being asked to respect the limits of the equipment.

    Far better to do what I did back when I was 400 pounds and couldn't get waited on at Foot Locker; take your money somewhere else. I'm glad the OP has done just that and isn't letting the negative feelings associated with what was undoubtedly an embarrassing discussion get in the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DelusionalDude View Post
    And you're handling it like a champ. Keep up the good work, and keep making progress. However, I do think they should have had the cajones to talk to you in person rather than on the phone.
    It probably was a tough call for the manager to make, and it would have been even harder in person. The manager sounds like he is genuinely interested in the OP's success.

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    I should point out that I wasn't advocating a particular course of action. I was merely observing that a case could be made. If there's been an amicable resolution, that's cool with me. Obesity and obese individuals, though are a group that almost all of society not only feels entitled to discriminate against, it's actively done.

    We're currently running studies in the Social Psychology dept at Purdue on this very issue, and are finding that most people view obesity as a moral issue, regardless of cause (Medical, behavioral, or whatever). They assume it's the obese individuals fault, and punish them for it.
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    Hey Takingcontrol!

    Glad to see you're living up to your screen name.
    I'm glad you found a gym that will work with you.
    Hopefully your former gym has released you from your contract.

    I'm sorry you wound up going through all that...Makes you feel sooo special, don't it?
    I'm a two seat flyer myself, and, though it is reasonable, can make you feel slightly sub human anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe View Post
    I should point out that I wasn't advocating a particular course of action. I was merely observing that a case could be made. If there's been an amicable resolution, that's cool with me. Obesity and obese individuals, though are a group that almost all of society not only feels entitled to discriminate against, it's actively done.

    We're currently running studies in the Social Psychology dept at Purdue on this very issue, and are finding that most people view obesity as a moral issue, regardless of cause (Medical, behavioral, or whatever). They assume it's the obese individuals fault, and punish them for it.
    Ok, I'm not obese, never have been. However, I have never punished anyone for being obese, nor have I punished people that smoke, or those with body art. I believe that people have the right to make decsions, even ones I would not make, provide they are willing to enjoy or suffer or pay for the results of their choices. I have discussed the obesity problem with a physican doing research on the increasing rate of obesity in the USA, his statement was that in general the problem was lack of excercise and excessive eating. The OP has weight problem, has taken responsibility to improve his health. Hats off to him. At first blush the Gym guy sounded like a jerk, but with all the details sounds like, they weren't really out of line. Perhaps a discount for a few months would have been a nicer way to deal with the issue. To the OP, hopefully you can take your walks outdoors for a few months and keep up the good work.

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    that is nonsense....did the equipment break while you were on the machine? if not, they have absolutely no right to consider your weight condition as the cause and as such is blatant discrimination. there is a line between reality and ignorance and this ****** at the gym is clearly on the wrong side of that...if i were the OP, i'd be way more pissed than he is.

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    I'm on your side on this, but I wanted to point out that you don't have to use a treadmill if you have good places to walk. I started walking when I was still up at about 450 pounds. In the winter I started doing laps on our underground parking garage at work. Later I used the MUP and the trails in the park by my house. I was self-conscious at first, but I don't think I ever got a rude word from anyone. If anything I got a little too much "encouragement." I would hear "good work!" or "keep it up!" and read all kinds of stuff into it at first. Then I just took it for what it was.

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