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Old 07-03-09, 11:21 AM   #1
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Help The Bee win the Fantasy Tour De France league

OK - My Bike group is competing in this Fantasy Tour de France and I have to pick a team...so who do I pick??>Any thoughts. I know slightly more about bike racing than I do Ice hockey. (Not good) need help!

http://fantasy.versus.com/cycling/index.asp


OH dear - I have to pick 15 riders for Stage 1 and I have $500 (play money) to do it. So Total Salary must be below $500. See riders and "salaries: below. Any input appreciated. WHo wpuld yu pick? why. After Stage 4 all my players are fixed. So I think I should pick my real team now....(there are other riders at the bottom of the list, but I ran out of room)

Name Team Salary
Mark Cavendish COL $100
Alberto Contador AST $95
Lance Armstrong AST $94
Oscar Freire RAB $82
Carlos Sastre CTT $81
Cadel Evans SIL $78
Tom Boonen QST $75
Denis Menchov RAB $69
Thor Hushovd CTT $68
Andy Schleck SAX $68
Frank Schleck SAX $67
Levi Leipheimer AST $66
Michael Rogers COL $61
Christian Vandevelde GRM $57
Kim Kirchen COL $56
Franco Pellizotti LIQ $54
Daniele Bennati LIQ $53
Andreas Kloden AST $49
Tyler Farrar GRM $48
Heinrich Haussler CTT $47
Gerald Ciolek MRM $46
Vladimir Efimkin ALM $44
Alessandro Ballan LAM $41
Sylvain Chavanel QST $40
Cyril Dessel ALM $40
Roman Kreuziger LIQ $39
Vincenzo Nibali LIQ $33
Fabian Cancellara SAX $32
Robert Gesink RAB $32
Marzio Bruseghin LAM $31
Luis Leon Sanchez GCE $30
Oscar Pereiro GCE $29
Allan Davis QST $28
Leonardo Duque COF $28
Linus Gerdemann MRM $28
Romain Feillu AGR $27
Carlos Barredo QST $27
George Hincapie COL $26
Bert Grabsch COL $26
Stijn Devolder QST $26
Haimar Zubeldia AST $25
Christophe Moreau AGR $25
David Millar GRM $25
Mikel Astarloza EUS $24
Samuel Dumoulin COF $24
David Zabriskie GRM $24
Filippo Pozzato KAT $24
Yaroslav Popovych AST $24
David Moncoutie COF $23
Gustav Larsson SAX $23
Koldo Fernandez EUS $23
Stuart O'Grady SAX $22
Jérôme Pineau QST $22
Julian Dean GRM $22
Danilo Napolitano KAT $22
Jens Voigt SAX $22
Jussi Veikkanen FDJ $22
Angelo Furlan LAM $21
Igor Anton EUS $20
Steven De Jongh QST $19
Danny Pate GRM $19
Juan Antonio Flecha RAB $18
David Lelay AGR $18
David Arroyo GCE $17
Vladimir Karpets KAT $17
Stef Clement RAB $17
Daniel Martin GRM $17
Thomas Voeckler BBO $16
Stéphane Auge COF $16
Bradley Wiggins GRM $16
Sébastien Rosseler QST $16
Maxime Monfort COL $16
Rinaldo Nocentini ALM $16
Yauheni Hutarovich FDJ $16
Mirco Lorenzetto LAM $16
Chris Anker Sorensen SAX $16
Nicki Sorensen SAX $15
Aleksandr Kuschynski LIQ $15
Lloyd Mondory ALM $15
Juan Jose Oroz EUS $15
Markus Fothen MRM $15
Nicholas Roche ALM $15
Tony Martin COL $15
Bernhard Eisel COL $14
Pierrick Fedrigo BBO $14
Sandy Casar FDJ $14
Remi Pauriol COF $14
Maxime Bouet AGR $14
Pierre Rolland BBO $14
Kenny Robert Van Hummel SS $14
Sébastien Joly FDJ $13
Greg Van Avermaet SIL $13
Albert Timmer SS $13
Anthony Geslin FDJ $12
Juan Manuel Garate RAB $12
Grischa Niermann RAB $12
Niki Terpstra MRM $12
Jonathan Hivert SS $12
Thierry Hupond SS $12
Rui Costa GCE $12
Egoi Martinez EUS $11
Laurent Lefevre BBO $11
Kurt-Asle Arvesen SAX $11
Eduardo Gonzalo AGR $11
Geoffrey Lequatre AGR $11
Rémy Di Gregorio FDJ $11
Mauro Santambrogio LAM $11
Jurgen Van De Walle QST $11
Laurens Ten Dam RAB $11
Peter Velits MRM $11
Sébastien Minard COF $11
Mikhail Ignatiev KAT $11
Nikolai Trussov KAT $11
Joost Posthuma RAB $10
Serguei Ivanov KAT $10
Matteo Tosatto QST $10
Jerome Coppel FDJ $10
Cyril Lemoine SS $10
Fabian Wegmann MRM $9
Benoît Vaugrenard FDJ $9
Mark Renshaw COL $9
Johannes Frohlinger MRM $9
Yury Trofimov BBO $9
Jérémy Roy FDJ $9

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Well, I couldn't find anything about how they are scoring. Granted I didn't sign up, but there didn't seem to be any links to rules and scoring.

Without knowing how you score it's very hard to pick a team. Is there points for stage wins, places in the stage, or just GC standing?

A little more info will help a lot in deciding if you want guys who will likely place well in the end but maybe not win any stages. Likewise there are guys who will win stages but will not get close to contending for the overall.
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SCORING
Points will be awarded for the riders who finish in the top 15 each day as listed below with bonus points each day to the rider who holds the Yellow Jersey Winner overall time leader), Polka Dot Jersey Winner (best climber) and Green Jersey Winner (best sprinter).


Finish Points per day
1 100
2 91
3 82
4 74
5 66
6 59
7 52
8 46
9 40
10 35
11 30
12 26
13 22
14 19
15 16
Yellow Jersey Winner (Overall Leader) 25
Polka Dot Jersey Winner (Best Climber) 5
Green Jersey Winner (Best Sprinter) 5



There's also prizes and money if I pick the best team each day, stage etc.
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I think this adds up to $500. It;s a little heavy on sprinters and for tomorrows Time Trial. Will probably want make some changes after the time trial to concentrate on climbers and GC guys.

Anyway, just a suggestion. Would like to get Chavanel in there but couldn't make the salary work.

Mark Cavendish COL $100
Alberto Contador AST $95
Lance Armstrong AST $94
Oscar Freire RAB $82
Carlos Sastre CTT $81
Cadel Evans SIL $78
Tom Boonen QST $75
Denis Menchov RAB $69
Thor Hushovd CTT $68
Andy Schleck SAX $68
Frank Schleck SAX $67
Levi Leipheimer AST $66
Michael Rogers COL $61
Christian Vandevelde GRM $57
Kim Kirchen COL $56
Franco Pellizotti LIQ $54
Daniele Bennati LIQ $53
Andreas Kloden AST $49
Tyler Farrar GRM $48
Heinrich Haussler CTT $47
Gerald Ciolek MRM $46
Vladimir Efimkin ALM $44
Alessandro Ballan LAM $41
Sylvain Chavanel QST $40
Cyril Dessel ALM $40
Roman Kreuziger LIQ $39
Vincenzo Nibali LIQ $33
Fabian Cancellara SAX $32
Robert Gesink RAB $32
Marzio Bruseghin LAM $31
Luis Leon Sanchez GCE $30
Oscar Pereiro GCE $29
Allan Davis QST $28
Leonardo Duque COF $28
Linus Gerdemann MRM $28
Romain Feillu AGR $27
Carlos Barredo QST $27
George Hincapie COL $26
Bert Grabsch COL $26
Stijn Devolder QST $26
Haimar Zubeldia AST $25
Christophe Moreau AGR $25
David Millar GRM $25
Mikel Astarloza EUS $24
Samuel Dumoulin COF $24
David Zabriskie GRM $24
Filippo Pozzato KAT $24
Yaroslav Popovych AST $24
David Moncoutie COF $23
Gustav Larsson SAX $23
Koldo Fernandez EUS $23
Stuart O'Grady SAX $22
Jérôme Pineau QST $22
Julian Dean GRM $22
Danilo Napolitano KAT $22
Jens Voigt SAX $22
Jussi Veikkanen FDJ $22
Angelo Furlan LAM $21
Igor Anton EUS $20
Steven De Jongh QST $19
Danny Pate GRM $19
Juan Antonio Flecha RAB $18
David Lelay AGR $18
David Arroyo GCE $17
Vladimir Karpets KAT $17
Stef Clement RAB $17
Daniel Martin GRM $17
Thomas Voeckler BBO $16
Stéphane Auge COF $16
Bradley Wiggins GRM $16
Sébastien Rosseler QST $16
Maxime Monfort COL $16
Rinaldo Nocentini ALM $16
Yauheni Hutarovich FDJ $16
Mirco Lorenzetto LAM $16
Chris Anker Sorensen SAX $16
Nicki Sorensen SAX $15
Aleksandr Kuschynski LIQ $15
Lloyd Mondory ALM $15
Juan Jose Oroz EUS $15
Markus Fothen MRM $15
Nicholas Roche ALM $15
Tony Martin COL $15
Bernhard Eisel COL $14
Pierrick Fedrigo BBO $14
Sandy Casar FDJ $14
Remi Pauriol COF $14
Maxime Bouet AGR $14
Pierre Rolland BBO $14
Kenny Robert Van Hummel SS $14
Sébastien Joly FDJ $13
Greg Van Avermaet SIL $13
Albert Timmer SS $13
Anthony Geslin FDJ $12
Juan Manuel Garate RAB $12
Grischa Niermann RAB $12
Niki Terpstra MRM $12
Jonathan Hivert SS $12
Thierry Hupond SS $12
Rui Costa GCE $12
Egoi Martinez EUS $11
Laurent Lefevre BBO $11
Kurt-Asle Arvesen SAX $11
Eduardo Gonzalo AGR $11
Geoffrey Lequatre AGR $11
Rémy Di Gregorio FDJ $11
Mauro Santambrogio LAM $11
Jurgen Van De Walle QST $11
Laurens Ten Dam RAB $11
Peter Velits MRM $11
Sébastien Minard COF $11
Mikhail Ignatiev KAT $11
Nikolai Trussov KAT $11
Joost Posthuma RAB $10
Serguei Ivanov KAT $10
Matteo Tosatto QST $10
Jerome Coppel FDJ $10
Cyril Lemoine SS $10
Fabian Wegmann MRM $9
Benoît Vaugrenard FDJ $9
Mark Renshaw COL $9
Johannes Frohlinger MRM $9
Yury Trofimov BBO $9
Jérémy Roy FDJ $9
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OK got it. Now which 6 do i pick for thE bench?

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OK got it. Now which 6 do i pick for thE bench?

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The bench? When did we get a bench? lol

So, a nine man team with 6 alternates. Got it. Give me a few minutes.
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OK, this bench thing will be a lot of work. Took out mostly the pure swprinters with the excpetion of guys who can Time Trial over a short distnace. Really gotta get a fw more climbers in the mix as well for later.

Do you have to carry 15, or can you gamble and carry 12 or 13 to free up some dollars?

The bench

Mark Cavendish COL $100
Alberto Contador AST $95
Lance Armstrong AST $94
Oscar Freire RAB $82
Carlos Sastre CTT $81
Cadel Evans SIL $78
Tom Boonen QST $75
Denis Menchov RAB $69
Thor Hushovd CTT $68
Andy Schleck SAX $68
Frank Schleck SAX $67
Levi Leipheimer AST $66
Michael Rogers COL $61
Christian Vandevelde GRM $57
Kim Kirchen COL $56
Franco Pellizotti LIQ $54
Daniele Bennati LIQ $53
Andreas Kloden AST $49
Tyler Farrar GRM $48
Heinrich Haussler CTT $47
Gerald Ciolek MRM $46
Vladimir Efimkin ALM $44
Alessandro Ballan LAM $41
Sylvain Chavanel QST $40
Cyril Dessel ALM $40
Roman Kreuziger LIQ $39
Vincenzo Nibali LIQ $33
Fabian Cancellara SAX $32
Robert Gesink RAB $32
Marzio Bruseghin LAM $31
Luis Leon Sanchez GCE $30
Oscar Pereiro GCE $29
Allan Davis QST $28
Leonardo Duque COF $28
Linus Gerdemann MRM $28
Romain Feillu AGR $27
Carlos Barredo QST $27
George Hincapie COL $26
Bert Grabsch COL $26
Stijn Devolder QST $26
Haimar Zubeldia AST $25
Christophe Moreau AGR $25
David Millar GRM $25
Mikel Astarloza EUS $24
Samuel Dumoulin COF $24
David Zabriskie GRM $24
Filippo Pozzato KAT $24
Yaroslav Popovych AST $24
David Moncoutie COF $23
Gustav Larsson SAX $23
Koldo Fernandez EUS $23
Stuart O'Grady SAX $22
Jérôme Pineau QST $22
Julian Dean GRM $22
Danilo Napolitano KAT $22
Jens Voigt SAX $22
Jussi Veikkanen FDJ $22
Angelo Furlan LAM $21
Igor Anton EUS $20
Steven De Jongh QST $19
Danny Pate GRM $19
Juan Antonio Flecha RAB $18
David Lelay AGR $18
David Arroyo GCE $17
Vladimir Karpets KAT $17
Stef Clement RAB $17
Daniel Martin GRM $17
Thomas Voeckler BBO $16
Stéphane Auge COF $16
Bradley Wiggins GRM $16
Sébastien Rosseler QST $16
Maxime Monfort COL $16
Rinaldo Nocentini ALM $16
Yauheni Hutarovich FDJ $16
Mirco Lorenzetto LAM $16
Chris Anker Sorensen SAX $16
Nicki Sorensen SAX $15
Aleksandr Kuschynski LIQ $15
Lloyd Mondory ALM $15
Juan Jose Oroz EUS $15
Markus Fothen MRM $15
Nicholas Roche ALM $15
Tony Martin COL $15
Bernhard Eisel COL $14
Pierrick Fedrigo BBO $14
Sandy Casar FDJ $14
Remi Pauriol COF $14
Maxime Bouet AGR $14
Pierre Rolland BBO $14
Kenny Robert Van Hummel SS $14
Sébastien Joly FDJ $13
Greg Van Avermaet SIL $13
Albert Timmer SS $13
Anthony Geslin FDJ $12
Juan Manuel Garate RAB $12
Grischa Niermann RAB $12
Niki Terpstra MRM $12
Jonathan Hivert SS $12
Thierry Hupond SS $12
Rui Costa GCE $12
Egoi Martinez EUS $11
Laurent Lefevre BBO $11
Kurt-Asle Arvesen SAX $11
Eduardo Gonzalo AGR $11
Geoffrey Lequatre AGR $11
Rémy Di Gregorio FDJ $11
Mauro Santambrogio LAM $11
Jurgen Van De Walle QST $11
Laurens Ten Dam RAB $11
Peter Velits MRM $11
Sébastien Minard COF $11
Mikhail Ignatiev KAT $11
Nikolai Trussov KAT $11
Joost Posthuma RAB $10
Serguei Ivanov KAT $10
Matteo Tosatto QST $10
Jerome Coppel FDJ $10
Cyril Lemoine SS $10
Fabian Wegmann MRM $9
Benoît Vaugrenard FDJ $9
Mark Renshaw COL $9
Johannes Frohlinger MRM $9
Yury Trofimov BBO $9
Jérémy Roy FDJ $9[/QUOTE]
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I believe i have to play 9 and have 6 on ht ebench. I kept the same line up as today for tomorow. Should I change It? all changes must be in by 3AM and I am off to bed...POh dear... we need to firm up the line up by Stage 4. No changes - after that.

We came in 3/4 for today vs the other teams in my league... Sad. Better than I would have done on my own!!! THANK YOU... so maybe we shoudl think about Stage 3.

Starters

Name Position Team Salary Today's Pts Total Pts
David Millar Starter Bench GRM $25 19 19 Remove
Denis Menchov Starter Bench RAB $69 0 0 Remove
Oscar Pereiro Starter Bench GCE $29 0 0 Remove
Tyler Farrar Starter Bench GRM $48 0 0 Remove
Luis Leon Sanchez Starter Bench GCE $30 0 0 Remove
Kim Kirchen Starter Bench COL $56 0 0 Remove
Fabian Cancellara Starter Bench SAX $32 130 130 Remove
Thor Hushovd Starter Bench CTT $68 0 0 Remove
Stijn Devolder Starter Bench QST $26 0 0 Remove




Bench
David Zabriskie Bench Starter GRM $24 22 22 Remove
Remi Pauriol Bench Starter COF $14 0 0 Remove
Jens Voigt Bench Starter SAX $22 0 0 Remove
Filippo Pozzato Bench Starter KAT $24 0 0 Remove
David Arroyo Bench Starter GCE $17 0 0 Remove
Thomas Voeckler Bench Starter BBO $16 0 0 Remove
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Ugh, we'll need to come up with a better way to identify bench and starters. I selected Zabriskie (Current US Natioanl Time Trial Chamo) and he apparently didn't make your roster. Cost you 22 points, lol. No Prob, it's a long race.

I really need to get a day or two ahead of the stages with their profile. There is also a possibility of switching out a couple of guys before stage 4.

I can help get you through the early stages and build you a little chart about each of your rider's strengths and weaknesses and show you where to look to find out how much climbing each stage is, how long it is, and if it favors climbers or spinters. There will always be points available for the sprinters and climbers so a mix is needed.

I didn't have a lot of time to go over the pics in detail and did them more from memory than what they have posted for results in the Classics and the Giro this year. You have two solid GC contenders in Menchov and Kirchen, solid sprinters in Farrar, Hushvold, and Millar, and Menchov is a serious threat for the king of the moutains jersey too. We may need to think about looking at another GC contender and swapping out a sprinter for a climber.
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THANK YOU!!!!

OK what is GC?

Are you figuring out what you are dealing with yet? I am not the brightest light bulb yet -Together though just think how good we can be? OK watching yesterdays Lance ride now. So cool to be able to watch lance's every move on a bike. Inspiring.... Shall we move our little discussion to PM and email? I am not sure everyone is interested.... since no one else has responded... (not that that has stopped me before )
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Ugh, by not having Farrar on the roster you lost 2nd place points, but still got 4th with Hushvold.

Yea, we can go PM, but I work dep nights so I'll get a roster change to you around 8 or 9 central time. I will also sastrt working on a way to helkp you do some of the roster moves based on what kind of stage is going to be run for the day.

EDIT: GC means General Classification, i.e. Yellow Jersey
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Ugh, by not having Farrar on the roster you lost 2nd place points, but still got 4th with Hushvold.

Yea, we can go PM, but I work dep nights so I'll get a roster change to you around 8 or 9 central time. I will also sastrt working on a way to helkp you do some of the roster moves based on what kind of stage is going to be run for the day.

EDIT: GC means General Classification, i.e. Yellow Jersey
You are awesome!!!! I will be on central time during the week too. Watching the race now on DVR....
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<SNIP> Watching the race now on DVR....
Me too. I honestly think it is the ONLY sporting event that I've Tivo'd this year. Cycling is an intesting chess match in motion. There is an awful lot of strategy involved with the teams. I don't know if you caught the ending of the 2nd stage. The setup for the sprinters was beautiful. You'd see a whole group from a team bringin their sprinter into a good postion. As soon as the you get close to the end and the sprinters fire-up the non sprinting team member pull off to the side and let the sprinters do their thing. In some ways a sprinter ending day like yesterday is like watching a lot of NBA games. Just watch the last 10 minutes. Either it will be a blow out, or you'll get an exciting ending. The precedding hour(s) of riding is all about just getting to the finish for the "real" part of the race to take place. The mountain stages are more interesting along the way as the riders have to be careful not to use up too much energy in the early climbs. Either way I enjoy watching it.

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WOOT!

Third in group and around 6200 out of over 30,000 for the total deal.
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Yall should know that it was Txvintage who did all of the work in our Fantasy league. He know's his cyclists!!! Mucho thanks for coming to my side and being my hero!!

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