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    Changing saddle 2 days before a century: stupid or REALLY stupid?

    I'm doing a century ride (well, the metric, not the full 100) this Saturday. I've been riding this saddle:



    Came with the bike. I don't know for sure but it's gotta be between 170-175mm, and it is too wide through the beginning of the nose. Chafes the butt-thigh crease like crazy after 25-30 miles. It's great on 10-20 mile rides, but longer ones cause issues.

    I found a place online that will let you rent Selle SMP saddles to test out. This showed up today:



    It's the Selle SMP Strike Extra. I know that new saddles can fool you, and I have not taken this out for a long ride yet, but I went ten miles today and I gotta say...it slips in under my sit bones just perfectly. I spun pretty fast and didn't even feel it against my butt-thigh crease area at *all*. And I wasn't even but buttr'd or anything. Just a dry chamois.

    So am I completely insane to take this on the century ride? I just have this really really good feeling about it. Plus it will be a really great test. If I get through the day and still love it, then I buy it. Of course the other side of me says "Hey dummy, do you really want to be out there 50 miles in and start crying because you hurt your butt?"

    I'm leaning toward taking it. Opinions?
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    If it's that comfortable for a short ride, I'd trust it for 100k. Especially since you know the problem area for the other one, and the SMP doesn't even contact you there.
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    Well, you know that the known option is going to cause you discomfort after 25-30 miles. Normally, if you were at all comfortable on you normal saddle I would say don't risk it. Butt, given that the normal saddle has proven to be unaccaptable for the job, it might be worth the risk. Biggest potential con, you recognize that the new saddle isn't working for you prior to the 25-30 mile point and have to pull out of the ride sooner than you would have with the known loser.

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    Have you got a sag wagon or ability to get a ride back from half way?
    Yep...fully supported. Multiple sag wagons they said. So pretty safe there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stark23x View Post
    I'm doing a century ride (well, the metric, not the full 100) this Saturday. I've been riding this saddle:



    Came with the bike. I don't know for sure but it's gotta be between 170-175mm, and it is too wide through the beginning of the nose. Chafes the butt-thigh crease like crazy after 25-30 miles. It's great on 10-20 mile rides, but longer ones cause issues.

    I found a place online that will let you rent Selle SMP saddles to test out. This showed up today:



    It's the Selle SMP Strike Extra. I know that new saddles can fool you, and I have not taken this out for a long ride yet, but I went ten miles today and I gotta say...it slips in under my sit bones just perfectly. I spun pretty fast and didn't even feel it against my butt-thigh crease area at *all*. And I wasn't even but buttr'd or anything. Just a dry chamois.

    So am I completely insane to take this on the century ride? I just have this really really good feeling about it. Plus it will be a really great test. If I get through the day and still love it, then I buy it. Of course the other side of me says "Hey dummy, do you really want to be out there 50 miles in and start crying because you hurt your butt?"

    I'm leaning toward taking it. Opinions?
    If the old one isn't working for ya, then try the new one, if you have the ability, take the old saddle along, if you find the new one bothers you after a while, just pull over and switch them.

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    For 100k, go ahead and ride the new one. I did a 50 mile ride standing up the whole time a couple years ago when the seat binder broke on my fixed gear.
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    I can ride anything for 10-15 miles; it's the 15-20 mile range where I start to notice any issues. If I were you, I'd try to squeeze in a 20-30 mile test-ride before you decide to use the new saddle for your metric century.

    If you do decide to use the SMP for the century, make darn sure you have the tools necessary to adjust the placement (fore/aft) and tilt of the saddle! On longer rides, especially if you ride with your hands on the drops, you may find that the "beak" of the saddle puts a little too much pressure on your soft tissue. Nosing the saddle down just a little bit may be required to achieve the perfect riding position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c_m_shooter View Post
    For 100k, go ahead and ride the new one. I did a 50 mile ride standing up the whole time a couple years ago when the seat binder broke on my fixed gear.
    now thats hardcore
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    Quote Originally Posted by stark23x View Post
    I'm doing a century ride (well, the metric, not the full 100) this Saturday. I've been riding this saddle:



    Came with the bike. I don't know for sure but it's gotta be between 170-175mm, and it is too wide through the beginning of the nose. Chafes the butt-thigh crease like crazy after 25-30 miles. It's great on 10-20 mile rides, but longer ones cause issues.

    I found a place online that will let you rent Selle SMP saddles to test out. This showed up today:



    It's the Selle SMP Strike Extra. I know that new saddles can fool you, and I have not taken this out for a long ride yet, but I went ten miles today and I gotta say...it slips in under my sit bones just perfectly. I spun pretty fast and didn't even feel it against my butt-thigh crease area at *all*. And I wasn't even but buttr'd or anything. Just a dry chamois.

    So am I completely insane to take this on the century ride? I just have this really really good feeling about it. Plus it will be a really great test. If I get through the day and still love it, then I buy it. Of course the other side of me says "Hey dummy, do you really want to be out there 50 miles in and start crying because you hurt your butt?"

    I'm leaning toward taking it. Opinions?
    I'd lube before the ride, but you are probably OK. If not, well, you SAG. Keep in mind that your sit bones need to get used to the saddle; even if it doesn't chafe you, there might be soreness.

    If this is your first organized ride, here's my advice: keep the time spent in rest stops to a minimum. In and out.

    Also, drink lots of water the day before the ride. You want to be hydrated before you ride. Don't try to play catch-up during the event.

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    Usually I'd say don't change anything before the big ride, but in this case I agree with others. Go for it. The old saddle hurts you already, and the new one tests out okay. Just know that it will feel a lot better over the coming weeks and months, than it will on your charity ride.

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    Knowing the other one sucks, I'd change. But take some allen wrenches to adjust tilt etc. on the ride.

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    Just got home from a 25 mile ride. Took it up and down some hills, some slow stuff, some fast spinning...other than simply a new kind of fatigue on the sit bones - to which I think I will adjust just fine - it really felt good.

    Thanks for the advice everyone...I will bring the old one just in case, and of course some tools just in case I feel like it needs a degree of adjustment here or there.

    I get the distinct impression I will be placing an order for a new one of these in blue on Saturday night when I get home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stark23x View Post
    Just got home from a 25 mile ride. Took it up and down some hills, some slow stuff, some fast spinning...other than simply a new kind of fatigue on the sit bones - to which I think I will adjust just fine - it really felt good.

    Thanks for the advice everyone...I will bring the old one just in case, and of course some tools just in case I feel like it needs a degree of adjustment here or there.

    I get the distinct impression I will be placing an order for a new one of these in blue on Saturday night when I get home.
    So how did the metric century go? Were you "made of awesome" and crushed the thing? :-)

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    It went great! Sort of. I mean, in retrospect it was great to accomplish it. During? Swearing. Lots of swearing. the 5.5 mile, 600 foot climb that wasn't mentioned, the elevation of which mapmyride didn't seem to know about either, was a lovely surprise. In the way that getting poked in the eye with a stick is a lovely surprise.

    Saddle worked a treat though. I did get a new sore, right next to the first one, but both are subsiding quickly. Aggravated hair follicles, not pressure sores. I think I may have to start shaving my butt/thigh meeting area place. Is there a technical name for that juncture? Also, MUCH less chafe. Almost none at all. Whatever I *did* get chafe-wise was likely me grinding around in the saddle much more than I should have while too exhausted to stand and mash up the hills.
    Last edited by stark23x; 07-20-09 at 05:08 PM. Reason: changed amount of climb...just 600 ft up not 1400!
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    Glad to hear that it went well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stark23x View Post
    It went great! Sort of. I mean, in retrospect it was great to accomplish it. During? Swearing. Lots of swearing. the 5.5 mile, 1400 foot climb that wasn't mentioned, the elevation of which mapmyride didn't seem to know about either, was a lovely surprise. In the way that getting poked in the eye with a stick is a lovely surprise.
    I've noticed a similar problem with MapMyRide. It seems that they divide your ride into segments and then present the average grade for each segment as part of their elevation profile. As your ride gets longer, the amount of road included in each segment also gets longer which leads to misleading profiles. I, too, found this out the hard way: while climbing up a road that MMR said had an average grade of 6-7% I was surprised to see my Garmin Edge routinely indicating a 10-13% grade. When I mapped just the climb, and not my entire 40-mile route, I got a significantly more accurate elevation profile.

    Glad to hear you made it through and didn't have too many problems with the new saddle!

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