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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 08-07-09, 06:06 AM   #1
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Brooks Champion Flyer (with springs) problem

I have just broken a rail on my 2nd Brooks Champion Flyer saddle after about 1500 average commuter miles (no jumps, curb hopping etc..). My sensitive lower back loves the slight cushion and the seat is very comfortable - but alas I need to find a new brand/model of saddle.

Any other sprung saddles that someone could recommend - currently about 230 lbs. - ride with drop bars at about a 45 degree angle...

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Old 08-09-09, 03:17 PM   #2
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You know you can get spares for the brooks? Scroll down the page.

http://www.wallbike.com/brooks/partsandaccessories.html

Maybe you could ask the Brooks peopel? Plenty sprung saddles, but maybe suited for more upright riding than yours. Maybe a thudbuster plus a B17? I would ask the Brooks peopel. 230 is not that heavy.

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Old 08-10-09, 03:11 AM   #3
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I have just broken a rail on my 2nd Brooks Champion Flyer saddle after about 1500 average commuter miles (no jumps, curb hopping etc..). My sensitive lower back loves the slight cushion and the seat is very comfortable - but alas I need to find a new brand/model of saddle.

Any other sprung saddles that someone could recommend - currently about 230 lbs. - ride with drop bars at about a 45 degree angle...

Thanks
I got mine when I weighed 240, now 192. I think it's got about 5000 miles. I get out of the saddle, or at least unweight slightly, going over rough terrain, such as curb jumping on the MTB (hardtail), and running over gapped or buckled pavement joints on the road bike.

Brooks have a reputation for durability and longevity. I don't see why the springer should be an exception.
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Hello Everyone,

Thanks for the feedback - I am now giving the Selle clydesdale (no spring) saddle at try.

One brooks dealer indicated that with a handlebar height a couple of inches lower then the seat height, the lever force on the rails must be too great. They claimed that the saddle was rated for up to a 350 lb rider riding in a upright position.

Anyway - tired of the hassle and constant seat height adjustment as the very comfortable Champion Flyer sagged and eventually broke. Now if I could only get down to 195 - maybe it would be a different story.

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I've been using Brooks saddles (7, including a Flyer, Imperial and 66) for years without snapping a rail. The weight has varied from 265-235, plus probably another 10 lbs in the bag at times. Ten of thousands of miles.

I'd have to summize that perhaps your seatpost is in some way causing undue strain. Is the saddle slid fore or aft?
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I haven't had any problems with mine either. Very likely a seatpost issue.
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In review - I am using an Easton EA50 seatpost - the saddle is positioned more to the rear of the seatpost attachment vs being dead center. Maybe a seatpost with a different offset & more center rail attachement position would have helped...

I thought about the B66 with double rails - but it is wider and still recommended for a more upright riding position.

The rail break on right hand rail only occurred just in front of the seatpost attachment. I was able to loosen the attachment & them move the broken rail into the seat clamp area and continue my ride.

I would have then gotten a B17 - but had heard about the cyldesdale Selle leather saddle - so that's what I am using now. I still have a new Champion Flyer if anyone else wants to give it a try.
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I have a Brooks Flyer pre-aged and have not had a problem (double checking as we speak). For most sprung saddles I believe the saddle should be even to just below the handlebars. Here is Sheldon Brown's take: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/saddles/springs.html

It sounds like the situation was reversed in your instance Jim-in-Kirkland. I hope the Selle-an-atomica works out for you.
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