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Old 09-14-09, 08:30 PM   #1
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Dog Attack!

I've never had trouble with dogs before; that is, until today. I had just started on my regular afternoon route when I heard this deep throated growl. I turned to see two lab/pit bull mix dogs bearing down on me. I had only traveled about .4 mile from my house. The dogs appeared from a large green space connected to Little Sisters of the Poor nursing home. I thought I would be able to outrun them, but they stayed with me as I had to go through several intersections. When I made my second turn one of the dogs got in front of me and cut me off. When I slowed to avoid crashing into him the dog on my left bit me two inches above my left ankle. Although I have never tried a cyclocross dismount, I pulled one off and put the bike between the dogs and myself. I lifted my bike and approached the dogs with the idea that I might have to use the bike as a weapon to drive the dogs off. The dogs decided to turn and run. I rode back home and attached my frame pump to my bike and made several blocks in hopes of spotting the dogs. After several circuits, I gave up and continued on with my regular ride. I made it home just as a rain began to fall. The bite turned out pretty superfical. Although the dogs mouth went all the way around my leg, the skin was broker in only three places. I think I'll pick up some pepper spray tomorrow.
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Old 09-14-09, 08:39 PM   #2
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you did all you that you could. I've found that getting off the bike to start with has been enough to disrupt their behavior, like I become a man with a weapon as you did rather than a sigular entity, a rolling bike. try a sporting goods store for bear spray.
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You must have been jacked up for an hour or two after that! Superficial or not, rabies should be your main concern with those bites.
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Call animal control. Those things need to be destroyed. If their owners cared about them, they wouldn't be running loose like that.
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Call animal control. Those things need to be destroyed. If their owners cared about them, they wouldn't be running loose like that.
Yes, get the rabies shots and get the dogs put down.
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Call Animal control, get to a doc (Emergency Room) ASAP for rabies shots. Rabies, unlike aids, can be prevented. Like aids though, there is no cure. Something like half a dozen people have survived rabies after symptoms start, from what I've read. Less (or none?) with no treatment.
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Old 09-14-09, 09:23 PM   #7
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Your water bottle will work as well. Wait till they are right next to you and squirt them in the face. That is usually enough to let you move on.

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I have found hot coffee to be very effective also...

but you probably didn't have any
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You need to call animal control and get to the doctors office ASAP!

Another little trick is to carry a water bottle full of amonia for a quick face squirt. Just make sure you don't mistake the amonia bottle for your water bottle .
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Yes, get the rabies shots and get the dogs put down.

Agreed. I love dogs, but they must be controlled and well cared for.
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Ammonia is cruel.It can blind and disfigure.Pepper/bear spray is effective and not permanent.
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sweet so you can be fumbling around trying to get the pepper spray out...

crash and then really be dog food!!!

be sure to aim that stuff the right way... or you'll be a crying blubbering pile of wrecked dog food!!!
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I dismount as soon as possible when I am confronted with a dog chasing me. While it is true that if a dog is trained to attack as a police dog is it will become more or less fearless, most dogs that are out on the street will back down from a confrontation. The second reason I dismount immediately in the case of a dog is most dogs have a very strong instinct to chase prey, so if you continue to flee from them they will continue to chase you.
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The second reason I dismount immediately in the case of a dog is most dogs have a very strong instinct to chase prey, so if you continue to flee from them they will continue to chase you.
if you do that then what is the point of all those intervals you have done?

sprint!!! (give Fido a workout too!!!) real problem here is a fitter dog (might be able to catch you next time)

be sure to skip the iPod to Iron Maiden, Run To The Hills!!!

"...run to the hiillllllsssssss, ruuuuun for your liiiiiffffffeeeeeee!!!!!!)

PS I love Iron Maiden
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A trained attack/defense dog is a well behaved animal.They do not attack unless told to do so.

And no matter what the substance you can fumble about getting it ready for use.Clumsy comes from inside.Remaining calm during a high stress situation allows action,not reaction.Plan for it,don't be a victim.
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Two words: concealed carry.
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When I was a teen I was chased down and bitten by a Dobie. It was inside the house when I rode by and it literally tore through the screen and came after me. It wasn't a bad bite, but it sure scared the hell out of me. When I got home we contacted our neighbor who was a cop. He took us to the house the dog came from and we confronted the owner for information the dog had a current rabies shot. Gave them a stiff fine for the dog getting out too.

Note to self: essential first accessories to include helmet, pump and pepper spray.
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Ammonia is cruel.It can blind and disfigure.Pepper/bear spray is effective and not permanent.
Household ammonia can do neither of those. Industrial ammonia probably could but it would be in a gaseous state as it's boiling point is well below 0 C. For more information on Ammonia and other helpful household chemicals consult google. As it stands, household ammonia (which is typically 95% water anyways) is an irritant but the effects are less so than that of bear and pepper spray. Even less if you dilute it with water.

Anyways, my typical response in a thread like this is:

People > Dogs.

It's really that simple. How do you think this scenario would have worked out should these two dogs have chased down a child on their bicycle?
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Two words: concealed carry.
Yeah, and end up in jail for discharging a weopen in city limits. That's real bright...maybe they will run away in fear when they see you waving it in the air...


On a more serious note, I would say that the amonia thing is overkill. A simple squirt from the water bottle is just as effective...

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I've had two dogs that I have encountered in the last year and half or so. One ended up being completely harmless and just wanted to run after me, but the other one was much more aggressive. He got a face full of water.

The problem is there is no way to know the first time a dog comes after you. Heck, there is no guarantee a previously harmless dog won't suddenly change modes. The side note about what if it had been a kid instead of an adult on the bike is why I always call animal control with at least the area and description if I don't know an address.
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As an owner of two pitbulls, it breaks my heart to hear more stories about terrible dog owners. I'm assuming you don't know who the owners were? Anyway, first thing is first...if the bite broke the skin and you don't know anything about the owners or if the dogs are up to date on their shots, then yes...you really need to call your doctor. If you know the owner and the dogs are up to date, then you're probably fine.

Next, I'm sure there's some kind of no-kill shelter or agency near you that should be notified. That way the dogs at least have a chance to be put in an appropriate place and not just put down because of an "owner's" irresponsibility.
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I've had two dogs that I have encountered in the last year and half or so. One ended up being completely harmless and just wanted to run after me, but the other one was much more aggressive. He got a face full of water.

The problem is there is no way to know the first time a dog comes after you. Heck, there is no guarantee a previously harmless dog won't suddenly change modes. The side note about what if it had been a kid instead of an adult on the bike is why I always call animal control with at least the area and description if I don't know an address.

Very true, the closest that I have come to getting hurt on my bike involving a dog was just a friendly one that wanted to chase me. I noticed his owner walking him so I slowed down as I passed. Suddenly the dog took a charge at me, breaking his leash. The dog missed my rear wheel by a couple of inches. Even though the dog was just wanting to play, the outcome would have not been good for me if he had clipped my wheel and tossed me into traffic.
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Well, a few years back, as I rode my motorcycle thru a local neighborhood, 2 dogs appeared in the road. The car in front of me slowed way down, as did I. Next thing I know there is a dog on either side of me, and the one bites my shin, right thru my jeans. First thing I did was pull over a few houses down the road and called the cops. That way I was in the area where the dogs are local. When the police officer arrived, he took down all my info and informed me that these dogs have been causing issues with others in the neighborhood, and there are little kids in this area. The owners did nothing! As the officer took my info, the dogs reappeared, the officer told me to move behind him and said that he was going to solve the problem then and there if they came closer. The dogs ran away, lucky for them.

I contacted the owners, who were more interested in covering their butts, but at least the dogs had their shots. The owners said that they would move the dogs to relatives, which most likely just moved the problem to another neighborhood.

I now never try to outrun a dog, stop and confront. Should you be injured, at least the police will have an easier time finding the dogs.
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When I was a kid there used to be this dog who would jump the fence and "guard" the front of its house. It chased any and all bikers. Each time me and my friends would ride by, the dog would chase us and we would ride like hell. The dog never really could run fast enough to catch us on our Schwinns. These were the days when cops didn't bother coming over for domestic violence, much less a dog guarding its home! And there was no such thing as animal control either! So one day my friend and I decided to give that dog a taste of its own medicine. We sneaked up on the house, then started yelling and screaming and throwing rocks at the dog. None hit the animal but it startled him enough to run. Then the chase was on! We chased that sucker for several blocks! After about 3 blocks, the dog was visibly tiring and we called the chase off. Dog went home. After that, everytime me and my friends rode by, dog stayed put. Lesson learned.

The last time I got chased by a dog as an adult, I was on my KHS road bike. I just rode like hell and sprinted away the way I did as a kid. Dog just couldn't run fast enough to even get close. I think I prefer this method as opposed to dismounting and confronting the dog using bike as weapon. Especially a big dog. I figure I have two 29" tall tires and 18 gears so I have the advantage of speed!
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those are all good ideas

butt noone has mentioned a cat decoy, live or plastic it should help at least!
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