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    Peter,

    I don't think you're doing anything wrong as far as the bike goes. I bet you just need to get used to it and you'll strengthen up quickly. On the stationary bike, you do not have to balance, nor are you actually moving your body weight through space. I know you have resistance set, but it's not the same as dealing with inertia. You body is making constant slight adjustments to keep your balance, your arms are carrying some of the weight, you have to put out more energy for even a small climb, compensate for turning a corner. it all adds up... just keep at it. No knee pain is GOOD!

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    Ignore the distance on the trainer. 12.1 miles in 30 minutes is 24+mph, which is racer speed. Just concentrate on longer and longer rides. Work up and do 2 or 3 loops on your ride. The trainer is easier because you aren't carrying your weight like you are outside.

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    Saw the PAIN MGNT DR today.

    It is as I hoped. Seven days at 30mg, then a week at every other day, then off the morphine completely and forever!

    Tramadol is still the light-weight pain med of choice, 30 days for 10 bucks! The cost savings will be sweat as well!

    Sadly, I did not get home in time to ride today, and we had a high of like 65? That really hurt too!

    So, no knee DR for a year, and if I quit the morphine as planned, no more PAIN MGNT for Peter!

    Thanks for the comments above. I will simply ignore the stationary VS real bike, and try to do and enjoy both as often as I can!
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    Good deal on Getting off of the morphine. The physical addiction to opiates can be a real fight. Keep up the good work.
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    don't sweat the bike vs trainer

    I hauled a load of wood home last week, me+load about equaled your weight.

    Except for the downhill parts, it was a lot of work, and I did not go that fast. Sooner or later the weight loss will kick in, and it will be a virtuous spiral for a while, which is nice when it happens.

    Great news on the knee. Now if we can just get similar progress in this stinking economy and get you employed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr2chase View Post
    I hauled a load of wood home last week, me+load about equaled your weight.

    Except for the downhill parts, it was a lot of work, and I did not go that fast. Sooner or later the weight loss will kick in, and it will be a virtuous spiral for a while, which is nice when it happens.

    Great news on the knee. Now if we can just get similar progress in this stinking economy and get you employed.
    Actually - my old job DID finally take me back, 25% pay cut (after 19yrs - oh well) life goes on, least I am doing what I like and am good at! May have wrote about it when it happend, but came back 12-08-10.
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    Yawns on Monday!

    Whether from starting the actual move this weekend, or the lower (half) dose who knows?

    No internet at home til I get the wireless sorted out, but we are now with my wife's Mother, taking care of her. So biking, etc is on the back burner for a couple of weeks til we get all settled into our basement (anyone put 5lbs of flour into a 3lb sack?)

    WHEE!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Danw View Post
    I'm game. We could hit the Sippo Valley Trail out of Massillon. It is paved for a few miles. It isn't much but it sure beats the mud on the Towpath right now. I'm off on Monday. We can meet up at Lincoln Park in Massillon and go west from there. http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&sa...-8&sa=N&tab=wl
    Has there been any word on when that bridge just east of Lincoln Park is going to be repaired?
    I sure miss being able to ride from the house down to Center Rd or Clinton, picking up the towpath down to Massillon (usually with an ice cream break at Ernies), pick up the Sippo to Dalton, then home via Dalton/Fox Lake and Black Diamond.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter_C View Post
    Yawns on Monday!

    Whether from starting the actual move this weekend, or the lower (half) dose who knows?

    No internet at home til I get the wireless sorted out, but we are now with my wife's Mother, taking care of her. So biking, etc is on the back burner for a couple of weeks til we get all settled into our basement (anyone put 5lbs of flour into a 3lb sack?)

    WHEE!!
    Back burner my butt. See if you can get a short ride in every day, whether on the trainer or bike. A couple weeks off the bike and you are going to feel like you are starting from scratch when you finally get back in the saddle. If you can't ride, at least get some other type of exercise in, a little cardio, some core strength, and of course legs. It's gonna take time to get yourself where you want to be from an overall health standard...every day is important.
    "Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter_C View Post
    So biking, etc is on the back burner for a couple of weeks til we get all settled into our basement (anyone put 5lbs of flour into a 3lb sack?)

    WHEE!!
    That 'no time back burner stuff' is nonsense. Writers write, painters paint and folk ride their bike. You can make up excuses and cry, whine and go on but the 'too busy for everything but the donuts' is a real pity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chipcom View Post
    Back burner my butt. See if you can get a short ride in every day, whether on the trainer or bike. A couple weeks off the bike and you are going to feel like you are starting from scratch when you finally get back in the saddle. If you can't ride, at least get some other type of exercise in, a little cardio, some core strength, and of course legs. It's gonna take time to get yourself where you want to be from an overall health standard...every day is important.
    LOL - let me correct myself! M-F 30 minutes (at least) on the stationary! As I get the garage under control, my REAL Bike will move to the new home, and since there are decent side streets right outside the driveway... I have high hopes...but a day like the last two - UGH!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedWhiteandRed View Post
    That 'no time back burner stuff' is nonsense. Writers write, painters paint and folk ride their bike. You can make up excuses and cry, whine and go on but the 'too busy for everything but the donuts' is a real pity.
    See above please?

    A better phrasing on my part might be - my primary focus has shifted to the move etc, from a primary focus on my Bike, this forum, planning future rides, gear needs, etc.

    And no, my last dounut was like 09-2009!!! ;-)
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    It just hit me as I am going back to ride-to-nowhere; doesn't *moving* and like 45 trips up and down stairs count as cardio and LEGS??? I mean for me at least...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter_C View Post
    It just hit me as I am going back to ride-to-nowhere; doesn't *moving* and like 45 trips up and down stairs count as cardio and LEGS??? I mean for me at least...
    as long as you are getting your heart rate up to 80% of max or so...and getting a little burn in them legs
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    What is past "burn" besides pain

    /snicker

    30 minutes on the stationary today - but only 10.2 miles (12.3 is my best) - based on the ODO anyhow...

    Trust me, my HR goes nice and high whenever I ride (or do much of anything)
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    Quote Originally Posted by chipcom View Post
    Has there been any word on when that bridge just east of Lincoln Park is going to be repaired?
    I sure miss being able to ride from the house down to Center Rd or Clinton, picking up the towpath down to Massillon (usually with an ice cream break at Ernies), pick up the Sippo to Dalton, then home via Dalton/Fox Lake and Black Diamond.
    I can check with Ernie's or the parks, but the last time I looked at it, it was untouched. Instead of hitting Lincoln Park from The Bottoms Park, just stay on Lincoln way until 17th st. and make a right to Lincoln Park.
    We usually ride south of town on the unfinished towpath trail behind tha Massillon Wal-Mart. There is a lot of wildlife behind the water treatment plant.
    This is the condition in which I last saw the bridge.
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    what is this "$6000 knee and trying" ****? there is no try. you either do, or you don't. your morbidly obese. You're already dealing with the health issues that come along with that. Cut the BS excuses and get your ass out on your bike. You can't find a job, take care of mom, or do any of that other stuff from your grave, so MAKE IT HAPPEN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPFITNESS View Post
    what is this "$6000 knee and trying" ****? there is no try. you either do, or you don't. your morbidly obese. You're already dealing with the health issues that come along with that. Cut the BS excuses and get your ass out on your bike. You can't find a job, take care of mom, or do any of that other stuff from your grave, so MAKE IT HAPPEN!
    and you're a noob who needs to take a chill pill...make it happen.

    We do the tough love/hate thing over in the road forum, in this forum even a prick like me tries to be a bit more friendly and supportive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chipcom View Post
    and you're a noob who needs to take a chill pill...make it happen.

    We do the tough love/hate thing over in the road forum, in this forum even a prick like me tries to be a bit more friendly and supportive.
    THe only point I would like to state? If one were to read ALL the posts starting from last year, I would say that progress IS being made, and that the person above may only have taken the time to read a few posts before replying...oh well.

    The "Do or do not, there is no try"... Sorry, I do not buy that. If so, the first back-slide, or outright failure, and many would simply quit. I deal in the real world, and sometimes "TRY" is bout all I can do - sadly, welcome to Real Life!

    Had the poster read back further he would know about the 17 week old knee, or the 30 real minutes every weekday on the stationary, or the fact that a number of my 'health issues' have already seem dramatic improvement! Am I slim and trim, nope, may never be...lots of work still to do.

    My point is simply this. Real Life tends to make us change and/or modify priorities often, the key is perspective! And, one strong point, is if I ain't alive, none of the other issues matter - and I do know this.
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    Sorry Peter, But I'm just giving you straight talk. What does doing have to do with failing? I want the best for you, I know you can do this. But already I see a small pattern of BS excuses coming from you. Your morbidly obese and in your 40's (correct me if I'm wrong on your age). My dad was FAR from morbidly obese and died of a heart attack at 46 because he didn't take care of himself. There is one priority for you right now Peter, your health. If you don't have your health, you can't successfully hope to deal with any of those other issues that you are calling priorities.

    so don't tell me your going to "try" to ride your bike. Be real with me. your either going to get up off your ass or your not going to get up off your ass, right? How does someone try to ride a bike? you either get on it and pedal, or you don't get on it and pedal.

    I've read EVERY SINGLE ONE of your posts, and again, I applaud you for getting on the right path. But I'm not gonna sit here and stroke you and make this the Hallmark feelgood story of the week. When I start seeing the bs "WOE IS ME" stories like I get from my clients I'm gonna give you a boot in the ass from time to time! I see this crap with EVERY one of my seriously obese clients. they start doing well and then they want to start worrying about everyone elses life BUT their own.

    Thats what this is all about. This is your opportunity to do what you need to do, for YOU! Embrace it and go get it!

    The next post better be that you were on your bike for an enjoyable 30-60 minute ride and stop worrying about all the numbers and mph avg and all that other crap. it will come.

    Keep up the good work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter_C View Post

    The "Do or do not, there is no try"... Sorry, I do not buy that. If so, the first back-slide, or outright failure, and many would simply quit.
    Sorry, Peter, that's BS. I gotta side with CPFitness on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedWhiteandRed View Post
    That 'no time back burner stuff' is nonsense. Writers write, painters paint and folk ride their bike. You can make up excuses and cry, whine and go on but the 'too busy for everything but the donuts' is a real pity.
    Thanks. I needed to read this.

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    In the spirit of the last 5 or 6 posts (and I've read all of them); sometimes I need someone to pat me on the back and tell me I'm doing just fine, and other times I need a swift kick in the a$$. Since you've already been kicked I would just like to say that I applaud your efforts, and I find this document of your struggles and successes to be a real inspiration to me. Keep up the good work, but don't start slacking or I'll have to kick your a$$.
    Gettin' my Fred on.

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    There have been a lot of overweight people who come to this forum excited about riding, make big plans, buy a lot of stuff, ride a couple of times, and we never hear from them again. Don't be another one of those.

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