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Old 10-17-09, 08:02 AM   #51
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Switch to fountain soda. It is way less convenient. Before long it will be just a bother to go get one. If you do get one, ride your bike to get it.
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The head of the FDA in the 80's was fired because he would not approve Aspartame..

Reagan appointed a new FDA commissioner, he cited an obscure Japanese study stating it was safe and Aspartame was approved to poison us all.. The influence of Donald Rumsfeld who was the CEO of Searle at the time was the main proponent pushing aspartame to be approved..

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I've been addicted to Coke my whole life. I drink 2-3 per day and will probably always. I've quit several times, but now have surrendered to the addiction. I like it and will keep doing it.

I just try to keep it at 2 per day, sometimes three.
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For those of you who are addicted to Coke, it is the High Fructose Corn Syrup in it that will cause you problems in the future.. If you want to continue drinking Coke, go to a Hispanic grocery store and look for Mexican Coke.. Better taste and they use cane sugar instead of HFC Syrup.. You will be amazed at how much better it tastes.. Pepsi has also come out with Pepsi Natural that uses real sugar and they had some out a few months ago called Pepsi Throwback that used real sugar and will be back out in December..

I am not advocating that you keep drinking them in large quantities but just make a better choice..

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If I were you I would try to find out what the addiction is. Sounds like it could be the caffeine, the sweetness, the carbonation, or a combination of all of the above.

If it is the caffeine try reducing the caffeine intake gradually. If it is the sweetness try replacing replacing the HFCS with sugar, dextrose, stevia, splenda, equal or whatever else helps. If it is the carbonation others seem to like seltzer or maybe something similar.

I don't think I was ever addicted (especially the amount the op described) but what stopped me was 1) stop buying or buying lower quantities and 2) being poor for a while. I would not waste extra trips to the market just to buy a pack of soda (especially when it gets cold out). And if it is not in your house you won't drink it (you'll find alternatives). Also, when money is tight or you have a goal in mind (like that nice shiny new bike by spring) figure how much you are currently spending, how much you would save, and remind yourself when the urge comes why you are doing it.
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Old 10-19-09, 06:42 PM   #57
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Switch to speed as a source of addiction. Will help with you cycling and reduce weight!

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On a more serious note, yeah - perhaps diet drinks (read snopes and other sites on the purported ill-health effects of nutrasweet).
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Kidney Stones! I had a terrible incident on Christmas night and spent a couple hours in the ER. After that every time I had a soda I'd get a little pain that reminded my of the ER trip. I switched to diet but no luck, so now I drink water with those little flavor packets.
Only time I have soda now is when it's mixed with liquor.

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This might seem a little unorthodox but...you could eat something.

A can of pop is, say, 220 calories, so 3 cans is 660 calories, and there's no food there at all. Eating something instead (maybe something sweet, like grapes?) can take care of the sugar craving and put something in your stomach, while your mind thinks "I've just eaten--I probably should wait before I have anything else." But pop doesn't do that for you. I mean, you could eat 2 candy bars (440 cals) and still eat fewer calories than are in 3 cans of pop, and you would be more satisfied, too.

Carrying water with you is a great idea. It keeps you from needing to buy something at lunch or while you're out, and if there's a dehydration component of the pop addiction, it will help with that. I love iced tea and Arnold Palmers, because you can change the amount of sweetener (sugar, for me) depending on your goals. If you use less lemon you won't need as much sugar.

Also, last thing: DO NOT(!!!) keep pop in the house! If you want one, go get it from the store. It will cost more, moneywise, but it is worth it.

I sometimes have a terrible pop problem, but I read an article where a guy said "I'd rather eat my calories than drink them," and I totally agree. Candy is better than pop any day of the week.
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If I were you I would try to find out what the addiction is. Sounds like it could be the caffeine, the sweetness, the carbonation, or a combination of all of the above.

If it is the caffeine try reducing the caffeine intake gradually. If it is the sweetness try replacing replacing the HFCS with sugar, dextrose, stevia, splenda, equal or whatever else helps. If it is the carbonation others seem to like seltzer or maybe something similar.

I don't think I was ever addicted (especially the amount the op described) but what stopped me was 1) stop buying or buying lower quantities and 2) being poor for a while. I would not waste extra trips to the market just to buy a pack of soda (especially when it gets cold out). And if it is not in your house you won't drink it (you'll find alternatives). Also, when money is tight or you have a goal in mind (like that nice shiny new bike by spring) figure how much you are currently spending, how much you would save, and remind yourself when the urge comes why you are doing it.
Well said. I am soda-free for a month now, and between that and only moderately watching what I eat I'm down nearly 10 pounds. The Roubaix Pro frame with my name on it is GREAT motivation! Vitamin Water has been my friend.
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I grew up drinking coke and have been known to drink 5-6 cans of it a day. Recently I've switched to Coke Zero and have found I'm drinking less, could be the nasty taste it has when it gets warm. Gone from High Fructose Corn Syrup to Aspartame, not sure which is worse. My next step will be to eliminate cokes completely, well at least try to anyway. I don't know if I've ever gone longer than a week without a coke in my life. Mineral water sounds like it may be worth a shot.
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Had a problem with sodas, but then I stopped carrying cash with me. No money for soda machines = no sodas.

Now I don't really miss it. Water and coffee are my main hydration sources now, with fruit juices and the occasional soda and liquor combination.
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"First of all soda doesn't even begin to quench your thirst."....yeah...it does lol.....when im hot and dying for something to drink the FIRST Thing I think of is an ice cold canned PEPSI! OMG I could live off that stuff...its worse than crack...not that Id know but you get my drift lol....I wish you luck my friend. Ive actually quit it before and I jsut went cold turkey...went w/out it for 4 months...then one day decided I "needed" one...and the rest is history....that was a year ago. Oh how i love my Pepsi....
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Some of the addictions to soda are worse then my addiction to smokes used to be LOL. I vote cold turkey.
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I am in the process of kicking the soda/ caffeine habit right now. About three weeks ago I was feeling bad from the caffeine I was drinking. I could actually feel it in my heart. I had quit before years ago and slowly let it creep back into my life.
I quit cold turkey and ever gave away all the Coke and Pepsi sodas I had stockpiled in my house.

So now I am drinking a diet and caffeine free soda once a day and two cups of caffeine free tea. The tea is good because I have to stop and make a cup and its like a new treat. I drink water as well out of a stainless steel bottle I bring to work and refill.

I did not get the head aches like I had in the past but I was also already sick with a virus similar to the Flu - everything like the flue except the fever. Being sick sucked but it helped to distract me during my first couple of weeks of withdraws from my soda/caffeine drinks.
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as A side note I lost 5 pounds in about a week and a half when I quit drinking sodas!
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not addicted as some of you. 2L/day in my 20s. 2-3 bottles/day in my 30s. I quit when the doctor at the ER said no pop, no caffeine, drink lots of water. Had a kidney stone and pissed blood for a week. Quitting was a piece of cake under those circumstances. No withdrawals either. I still have 1-2/month. I think its the cold and carbonation that is so refreshing.
I like coffee and hot or cold tea but never use sugar or other sweeteners. Too lazy to make it so I just drink water or juice.
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hey, ive been slowly putting pounds on over the last year or so and im pretty sure its from the amount of soda i drink daily(2-3 cans a day). Ive tried to quit drinking it and i can usually get over the headaches but for some reason i always go back to it. How do u guys abstain from drinking soda once you quit? Is their any good alteratives to soda that quench your thirst like soda does?
Soda doesn't quench your thirst, not at all.

What is probably happening is that you are well on your way to being what is called Pre-diabetic, essentially you are fully developing Type II diabetes, and the symptoms have not yet landed you in the doctors office.

One of the PRINCIPAL symptoms is being chronically thirsty.

Make no mistake, the cycle of corn syrup (or sugar) soda and its "addiction" is very real. For those that choose to drink this crap, they feel a very real "thirst" that they believe only the soda can cure.

However, soda doesn't quench the thirst, it is contributing to causing it.

The best way to satisfy your thirst is to NOT DRINK SODA. If you are fully immersed in an eating/drinking routine combined with little to no exercise you probably are not going to change that. Type II diabetes is probably well on its way, as is heart disease, multiple types of increased cancer risks etc.

If you really want to change, and be healthier, and if that was really true you wouldn't be who you are today in the first place, the answer is simple.

Don't drink Soda.

Buy yourself a water cooler. Either a ceramic one or a full blown fancy pants one with instant hot and chilled water as well. Do NOT use a vinyl, polycarbonate, or anything plastic as your inverted water vessel. All forms of vinyl and polycarbonate plastics leach plasticizers and dioxins that cause hormonal imbalances, are carcinogens, and reek havoc on your endocrine system. The five gallon plastic containers that water companies use are commonly referred to as "a fountain of dioxins" by those who resarch this stuff (google it). Go to a store that sells supplies for making your own wine or beer. Ask to buy a three or five gallon glass carboy. Don't buy one from Mexico, they aren't as stable as the ones from Italy for whatever reason. You don't want a wobbly giant glass container filled with water, trust me.

How do you abstain from drinking soda?

Don't drink it.

You are at a crossroads. You can change your life, or you can continue being a disgusting fattie who doesn't even have the most willpower to control what and when you ingest food and/or drink.

You did this to yourself, and only you can change it.

Make the change. Type II diabetes is a nightmare.

A doctor once told me that if all the fat Americans knew about the dialysis and medical complications that await them and their culture of obesity that there wouldn't be any fat people. I doubt that.

The problem in this country isn't a lack of knowledge, but a lack of personal accountability.

In my book the fact that you are asking others how you can stop drinking soda, as if you are powerless yourself to make that change, tells me everything I need to know. Instead of insulating yourself in a culture lacking in culpability, fat people, like us, need to stop looking outward for the resolve to change our behavior.

Our choices landed us in this fat disgusting mess.

Only our choices will lead us out.
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High Fructose Corn Syrup

Most likely it is the high fructose corn syrup that you are actually craving. Google it and then find a soda with real cane sugar, which won't tax your system anywhere near as much and switch to that. Then drop to 2 a day, then one and then one every other day. I have about 1 a day typically. Remember...the simple fact is that you HAVE to burn more calories than you take in to loose weight.
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Don't drink your calories, eat something satisfying. That is one of the best quotes I have ever received. Dried fruit, especially pears help with the sweet tooth. You can get a variety at Warehouses like Costco or Sam's. I was a Pepsi, Mountain Dew addict for 25 years. Only drink one with Pizza, cause like, you know, you gotta have pop with pizza-fer real dude!
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We never buy soda. Mainly only drink water. If a 2 liter makes its way into the house somehow, it will be gone within 2 days. Same with ice cream or any other treats really. So, we just buy them as seldom as possible.
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The expert view on aluminium

Since the idea that the metal might be a risk factor for Alzheimer's disease was first proposed there have been numerous conferences on aluminium and health. The medical research community, international and government regulatory agencies and the aluminium industry all review the evidence at frequent intervals. The overwhelming medical and scientific opinion is that the findings outlined above do not convincingly demonstrate a causal relationship between aluminium and Alzheimer's disease, and that no useful medical or public health recommendations can be made − at least at present (Massey and Taylor 1989).

It has proved extremely difficult to devise studies to resolve this problem one way or another. Alzheimer's is a common disease with multiple causes, while aluminium is widespread in the environment, and there are no methods that allow us to measure an individual's 'body burden' or lifetime exposure to this element.
Actually that's not true.

I worked in clinical trials for awhile, and with epidemiologists. In fact the sense amongst the community is that it most assuredly is NOT known what affect aluminum is having on the body, and that the studies looking at Alzheimer's and aluminum most certainly did NOT establish that aluminum was not related to the disease, just that they did not also establish that aluminum had caused it.

There are a lot of epidemiologists that are looking at aluminum toxicity now. There is a very real reason that the food and beverage industry has moved to cans and aluminum containers with plasticized linings (even though they contained BPA) and that reason is that there was growing evidence of metal ingestion.

However, the real research with aluminum is the fact that the Pediatric vaccine schedule results in toxic levels of aluminum in babies and children.

Certainly the body is able to not absorb all ingested aluminum, the aluminum injected into the blood stream is something that definitely is raising some eyebrows.

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I view juices as healthier. But, once in awhile a Diet Coke refreshes.. Regular coke.. The thought of all those tablespoons in coke is sickening.
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Most likely it is the high fructose corn syrup that you are actually craving. Google it and then find a soda with real cane sugar, which won't tax your system anywhere near as much and switch to that. Then drop to 2 a day, then one and then one every other day. I have about 1 a day typically. Remember...the simple fact is that you HAVE to burn more calories than you take in to loose weight.
I "clyde'd" myself with soda. Went from about 165 lbs as a high-school kid to about 225 after I graduated college. I wolfed down 2L Mountain Dews all the time, Coke with meals all the time. (Beer and bad food obviously contributed too). I'm not as certain as I once was that HFCS is the culprit for T2D or America's Obesity crisis (i wouldn't be surprised), but let me tell you when you're off the stuff it tastes disgusting to go back.

For me I fell in love with drinking vinegars (http://www.nytimes.com/indexes/2008/...e=09cecchiniw&) which gave me both the "refreshing" qualities of carbonation but also a tart fruitiness that satisfied. Also some people think drinking vinegars help you lose weight.

I'm off the Coke train, but occasionally adore these:
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I drink 3 to 4 liters of water a day now, but I had a diet coke problem. Now a days if I want something different I drink diet ginger ale. Caffeine and sugar free. It gives me a nice change and I still get my carbonation fix.
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Throughout one day back in August, I had 4 liters of coke, a large (huge size) Dunkin Donuts Iced coffee, and 3 20 oz high test coffees. Needless to say, that evening I was in the ER with heart palpitations. I also liked (for 20 years) Skoal Wintergreen Longcut.

My M.D. put me through all the cardiac tests, except for a catheterizaion. All results were good, except for my weight. So in the course of 1 evening, I quit cold turkey coffee, coke, and nicotine. It has been 3 months I have dropped 30 lbs. and haven't felt this good in 15 years.

I also took up biking and that is my new addiction, I forgot how good a runners high is.
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