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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 10-23-09, 12:46 PM   #1
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Good Laugh at new Gym

This past week I've started going to the gym again, have taken the summer off weights. Anyway had to do some tests before hand, weight 228lbs with cloths on, BFI 28.8, 6'1". After a few other things they did a cardio test. As my goal is to loose weight and gain no mass the trainer wants me to do a certain amount of cardio and even thou I told him I was a cyclist I don't think he believed me. Afterwards he admitted he invisioned me as the guy cruising on old MTB on sidewalk. Cardio test involved getting on stationary bike to determine my fat burning HR, he asks me to get on and pedal till I got up to around 125hr and raise it from there to see where I could get it toOnce I got up to 180 he said stop that's enough. He determined that my HR zone for burning fat is between 138-145. He asked how high I had seen my HR this past summer, when I said 195 he almost feel over, saying that's pretty damn goo dfor a big guy at 38. He gave me a pretty good routine with a lot of exercises I have never done before, plus it's got a track, pool, sauna and hot tub in seperate dressing room heck even supplied towels and razors, whoohoo I can shave my legs at the gym
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Old 10-23-09, 01:25 PM   #2
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so effectively, he didn't do jack other than look on a chart. He was able to magically come up with your LTHR from that little effort? Wow, what's his number?
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Old 10-23-09, 01:31 PM   #3
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the myth of the fat burning zone perpetuates.
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Well, there is some merit to keeping in Zones 2 and 3 doing LSS for fat burning. It's not absolute, but it's not totally without results either.

I like the sound of the gym! My work is setting up a deal for us where we pick a gym and they pay part of the cost. The kicker will be how much they pay when it comes tome to pick a gym with what goodies, lol.
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Yes - teaching your body to burn fat at increasingly higher intensities by training at lower intensities can help use more fat than carbohydrate for fuel in the long term. Unfortunately this is not what "the fat burning zone" is, as used in this type of situation and the reason I'm calling it a myth.
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Yes - teaching your body to burn fat at increasingly higher intensities by training at lower intensities can help use more fat than carbohydrate for fuel in the long term. Unfortunately this is not what "the fat burning zone" is, as used in this type of situation and the reason I'm calling it a myth.
Yea, I think we're both trying to say the same thing, but at the same time "not go there". I agree there isn't a set HR zone that is more efficient at regular fat burning. There is a lot more too it than that with intensities and cycling specific nutrition.
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Yeah I get a kick out of all the numbers. The trainer was actually pretty good as he said with all the cycling youdo cardio is really not the factor here. It's doing different cardio and weight training to help the metabolism going a little better.
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Odd. Is there better cardio than cycling? Why do all the gyms have bike machines? Just get out and ride the !@#$% bike!
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Odd. Is there better cardio than cycling? Why do all the gyms have bike machines? Just get out and ride the !@#$% bike!
The only problem is cardio only burns calories when you are doing it, plus it does nothing for bone mass. And one word for you WINTER. Plus some of us like the gym and I am one. And cardio is great but, and not trying to be mean here and I fit my describtion, any fat guy can train body for cardio effecientiency, I want to burn fat. I rode more this year than ever before and since I stopped going to gym in April I have put weight on, that's after 6500km on bike.
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I love it when a bunch of people jump on a thread and put the OP on the defensive for no other reason than to put him on the defensive.

And yah, youcoming, we had a similar experience today when we signed up for the "winter season" gym. Two fat people in street clothes walk into the gym automatically means we've never exercised before. Tried to tell him I've dropped 30lbs and I ride 5-6d a week but it was like talking to a brick. Against my better judgment, we signed up anyway.
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I love it when a bunch of people jump on a thread and put the OP on the defensive for no other reason than to put him on the defensive.

And yah, youcoming, we had a similar experience today when we signed up for the "winter season" gym. Two fat people in street clothes walk into the gym automatically means we've never exercised before. Tried to tell him I've dropped 30lbs and I ride 5-6d a week but it was like talking to a brick. Against my better judgment, we signed up anyway.
I'm use to being on the defensive, reason is I go against the grain on type sof thinking and stero types, hey I'm a clyde on a full carbon bike, with carbon wheels, love to work, all the things I shouldn't be doing or liking. Problem is I love to eat, I couldn't imagine how big I would be if I wasn't active, well actually I can as I was thre but no biggie. Would be nice to not love food so much.
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I've been biking for a couple of years now. And generally feel great doing it. Just recently, I've been trying to cut down on the food. That seems to be making a bigger difference weight-wise than JUST the riding.

My favorite gym story- I was down on Galveston island, it was late in the day, about sunset, and I was walking along the seawall. Nice ocean breezes blowing in, good temperature, just a great place to be going for a walk. And I passed this gym, and up on the second floor of the gym, people are walking on treadmills indoors. Sheesh. How nice would it have had to be, to get them outside?
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Ride bike, lift weights, and watch what I eat is pretty much my routine. Also, don't always go by the scale when you are measuring mass. A pound of muscle looks a lot different than a pound of fat. I'd rather my clothes feel tight around my chest than around my waist .
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My favorite gym story- I was down on Galveston island, it was late in the day, about sunset, and I was walking along the seawall. Nice ocean breezes blowing in, good temperature, just a great place to be going for a walk. And I passed this gym, and up on the second floor of the gym, people are walking on treadmills indoors. Sheesh. How nice would it have had to be, to get them outside?

My answer is habit!!! A lot of people love treadmills to work out and they do the same thing over and over. I would rather walk or run outside, but there are days that I pick a treadmill, because I want to do a special run with speed on certain degree of incline. I would guess that is the answer.
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How nice would it have had to be, to get them outside?
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some of my friends that go to the gym to ride a stationary bike or treadmill do those activities in the gym because they can't chat with their buddies/ watch the game/ don't like traffic/ just do it for the ladies.
it's hard to chat with your buddy and get a workout if you ride/ run at different paces.
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Even Lance cross trains.
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some of my friends that go to the gym to ride a stationary bike or treadmill do those activities in the gym because they can't chat with their buddies/ watch the game/ don't like traffic/ just do it for the ladies.
it's hard to chat with your buddy and get a workout if you ride/ run at different paces.
If you are talking with buddies on a treadmill or exercise bike you aren't working hard enough....lol
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If you are talking with buddies on a treadmill or exercise bike you aren't working hard enough....lol
not everyone trains in the red zone.
i personally don't use a treadmill or stationary bike.
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^^^^I'm being funny haha or sacastic I have a problem with that.
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