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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 03-23-10, 07:11 PM   #1
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How long to give a saddle before giving up?

Howdy all! 6'5" 230 lbs guy here. Bought a Specialized Avatar a few weeks ago because I thought the gel padding and cutout would help with some genital numbness I was experiencing. Sadly, after doing about 200 trainer miles on it, my sit bones feel awful after a ride. It's genuinly hard to complete the hour of riding I like to do in the morning.

So, how long should I keep trying to break in and/or get used to this sucker?
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Old 03-23-10, 07:38 PM   #2
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Hey. I'm also about 230 and it took my Terry Fly a while. The angle seemed very critical and once I got it, everything was great...good luck. BTW - do you ride a lot with no hands on the trainer? If so, that may have something to do with it...
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Old 03-23-10, 08:45 PM   #3
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So, how long should I keep trying to break in and/or get used to this sucker?
I take a new saddle out for a ride around my standard 30-mile loop. I keep my multi-tool in a jersey pocket so I can easily stop to adjust the saddle angle. At the end of the ride, if I feel even the slightest bit of discomfort the saddle gets returned immediately...

FWIW, I've tried the Specialized Toupe, Avatar, and Phenom. None of them really work for me.
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Trainer miles are hard. All my seats start to bother me after about 45 minutes on the trainer, even when I can ride for hours on the road with no problems.

That being said, I do use the trainer to adjust my saddle. 45 minutes to an hour on the trainer will let me judge what needs to be changed in height, tilt or for-aft. Change one at a time after each session, minor adjustments, come back the next day and do it again. When you think you've go it close, go for a spin on the road.

Often too much padding is the worst you can do if you have numbness problems, as you sink into the padding creating pressure everywhere, instead of just on your sitbones. Extra thick padding in your shorts can compound the issue.
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Old 03-29-10, 02:17 AM   #5
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Hey. I'm also about 230 and it took my Terry Fly a while. The angle seemed very critical and once I got it, everything was great...good luck. BTW - do you ride a lot with no hands on the trainer? If so, that may have something to do with it...
Nope, pretty much always hands-on-the-bars for me.

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Often too much padding is the worst you can do if you have numbness problems, as you sink into the padding creating pressure everywhere, instead of just on your sitbones. Extra thick padding in your shorts can compound the issue.
I tried tilting the Avatar up and moving it aft a touch, which seemed to help the numbness and sit bone issues a little, but not a ton. I picked up a Specialized Romin from the LBS to test the padding theory. Installed it dead level at about the fore-aft position that the Avatar ended up on. This thing is the polar opposite as far as padding goes, and totally alleviated the numbness issue. My sit bones feel bruised though, but that is more likely due to the fact that I took it on a 60 mile ride filled with the bumpiest roads known to man. A 3 mile unpaved section may be especially to blame!

I'll give it some trainer miles to see how that goes, but it's certainly an improvement! Just wish it had a tad more padding right at the sit bones to soak up those bumps.
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I had an Avatar. Now I have a mtb front wheel. I traded the Avatar for it because it was killing my sit bones. The Avatar got replaced with a Brooks Swift which turned out to be a keeper. I'd try an hour ride outside to while making tilt and shift changes as needed, but if you're sit bones are still hurting afterwards, I'd trade it in for something else. Saddles are very personal so what works for some won't work for others.
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I have the avatar on my Roubaix - it was the stock seat. I never thought my rear and upper legs could hurt so much. I have a fair bit of trial on the seat and am ready to chuck it.
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i have the specialiozed alias., anf its good for only a 60 minute ride after that i'm slidding back and forth to find a comfortable position. my mtb has a wtb vigo, and its pretty comfy. thinking of giving i t a try on my road bike.

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I'm with sstorkel: A saddle gets a test ride on my 25 - 30 miler loop. If I can't adjust it to a comfortable position during that ride, it's not the right saddle for me.

I did a lot of saddle switching before discovering the 1 which is perfect for me. I have a variant of the same saddle on all 3 of my bikes now.
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