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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 04-04-10, 08:27 PM   #1
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tire width for clyde

i currently run 700/23's on my cross bike (road riding for summer, have cross tires for the offroad stuff)... since i am 220# should i be considering a wider tire? or will 23's be ok (run at 100psi).

i purchased the current tires from performance for probably 9 dollars a tire so that I could ride on the trainer over the winter, but for obvious reasons i am concerned about the tires... unfortionately since i was naive when i go them they are wire beads, otherwise i would have turned them into a spare set for carrying on rides...

i am considering gator skins because i would like to not have to worry about flats very much, and would rather worry about learning to cycle better.

recommendations on tire width?
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I ride 700 X 20's to 700 X 35's.
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spare tires for a ride? That's a little extreme. Tubes, yes.

23 is fine.
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What does naive have to do with riding wire beads? And, you can't fold a wire bead tire soo hardly doubt you'd want to take along on a ride as a spare set.
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spare tires for a ride? That's a little extreme. Tubes, yes.

23 is fine.
Actually, I know some double century riders that take along a folding tire tucked under their seatpacks. One dude saved me once on a century when my sidewall split 90 miles into a ride!
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I think a double century qualifies as "a little extreme"
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Running 700 x 23's at 100psi with your weight is close to optimal in terms of rolling resistance. Here's some good reading: http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com/images/TireDrop.pdf . If the roads are smooth, 700 x 23's should be fine. If you ride rougher roads (poor pavement or chipseal) then 700 x 25's or 700 x 28's will be more comfortable, have about the same rolling resistance, and weigh only a little bit more.
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Double-C (300k) is a nice way to spend a Saturday. For any ride 100k and up I usually have my spare folding tire in my fix-it kit. It's an over-developed rando sense of self-support. The day you leave something behind is the day you'll need it.

I ride 23s or 25s on the track, rolled 28s on the road for a while, and I've recently moved up to 32s so I can hit more gravel trails and dirt roads.
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http://www.rivbike.com/article/components/tires

An interesting article on tires for general purpose riding.
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http://www.rivbike.com/article/components/tires

An interesting article on tires for general purpose riding.
Common sense? Here? I thought it was banned

The Rivendell Ruffy Tuffy is a real nice tire, I used it for a few years. If you can find
the new Vittoria Hyper 28c, I think that would be a great choice.

I am about to put a pair of 32c Hypers on my bike.

Btw, Bicycle Quarterly did some rolling resistance tests and the results were surprising.
The suppleness of the tire made a big difference, more than the size.

I'd suggest trying 80 psi up front and 90 at the rear for a 28c.
You don't have to worry about pinch flats. So all you need is to have the tire stay round
when you sit on it. A little squish is fine.

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What does naive have to do with riding wire beads?
I swear, the questions to which I would really like an answer never get answered!
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Beanz... was merely suggesting the lightweight cheapo tire if it were in a folding tire could be used as a spare... thus eliminating my need to purchase a 3rd tire to carry with as i commute... i cannot be late for work, and will always carry a spare tire/tube once i start commuting full time (18 miles 1 way).

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they are wire beads, otherwise i would have turned them into a spare set for carrying on rides
as you stated, i cannot fold up a wire bead tire... now when i buy a new set of tires, i will need to buy a 3rd folding tire to carry as a spare... i am a cheapskate
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Beanz... was merely suggesting the lightweight cheapo tire if it were in a folding tire could be used as a spare... thus eliminating my need to purchase a 3rd tire to carry with as i commute... i cannot be late for work, and will always carry a spare tire/tube once i start commuting full time (18 miles 1 way).



as you stated, i cannot fold up a wire bead tire... now when i buy a new set of tires, i will need to buy a 3rd folding tire to carry as a spare... i am a cheapskate

Ahhh, I see. I interpretatedid the statement incorrectly!
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i guess i will go with 23 or 25... so far i have 150 miles on the 'cheapo set' (i know they should go much farther without problems), but on the front the bead has come unseated in the front 2x, which scares me (was at 100 psi on 120 psi rated tire).

rode today at 95 psi, and seemed to be quite nice, but then again, i am a rookie, so it basically all feels the same to me if i am honest
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I'm a bit heavier than you. I run 700x28 Forte GT2/k from Preformance on my commuter (1,500 trouble-free miles and they still look fine). I run 700x23 Gatorskins on my road bike and they've been great so far. Got them at Pro Bike Kit. Current price on the 23 or 25 widths is under $30 each for the folding tires including free S+H.
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i guess i will go with 23 or 25... so far i have 150 miles on the 'cheapo set' (i know they should go much farther without problems), but on the front the bead has come unseated in the front 2x, which scares me (was at 100 psi on 120 psi rated tire).

rode today at 95 psi, and seemed to be quite nice, but then again, i am a rookie, so it basically all feels the same to me if i am honest
I been riding 23's for 15 years, at 220-250. Never had tire pop off the rim.

Not since I realized that one must check the line around the bead of the tire is consistent with the outer cirumference of the rim after installation. I've had buds pop tires off (150 lb rider) cause he didn't seat it correctly.

I did have one bud destroy a rim when he mounted a cheap $12 tire! The sucker exploded and separated at the seam! I wouldn't use anything that cheap.
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I did have one bud destroy a rim when he mounted a cheap $12 tire! The sucker exploded and separated at the seam! I wouldn't use anything that cheap.
That can happen for any price. I had a Gatorskin rip through at the bead not 24 hours after installation. Sounded like somebody got shot in my spare room when that tire blew out! Brought it in to the LBS and they gave me a waranty replacement on it; said there's no way it was anything but manufacturing defect.
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Beanz... was merely suggesting the lightweight cheapo tire if it were in a folding tire could be used as a spare... thus eliminating my need to purchase a 3rd tire to carry with as i commute... i cannot be late for work, and will always carry a spare tire/tube once i start commuting full time (18 miles 1 way).



as you stated, i cannot fold up a wire bead tire... now when i buy a new set of tires, i will need to buy a 3rd folding tire to carry as a spare... i am a cheapskate
Actually Mr. brown shows how to make a wire bead tire portable. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsVrCAJMr_Y
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That can happen for any price. I had a Gatorskin rip through at the bead not 24 hours after installation. Sounded like somebody got shot in my spare room when that tire blew out! Brought it in to the LBS and they gave me a waranty replacement on it; said there's no way it was anything but manufacturing defect.
My bud's RIM exploded at the seam, not just the tire!
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I run 37-622 and I consider that rather skinny. Minding the roads I have here. So everyone's definition of adequate is different. I could not imagine going any narrower due to the roads, but some local riders around here claim that they can actually ride 25's here. I don't believe them one word
Eh, btw, you don't happen to have a picture of that rim, do you?
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My bud's RIM exploded at the seam, not just the tire!
Holy carps! I've worn some rims pretty thin at the braking surface and still never had one rip through.
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I run 37-622 and I consider that rather skinny. Minding the roads I have here. So everyone's definition of adequate is different. I could not imagine going any narrower due to the roads, but some local riders around here claim that they can actually ride 25's here. I don't believe them one word
Eh, btw, you don't happen to have a picture of that rim, do you?
What sort of roads? I'll be throwing a 35 or 37mm tire on for a 300k in August which promises to have 15 - 20 miles of unpacked gravel mountain service "roads".
I've read of some light riders getting away with low pressure 28mm - 30mm tires on some fairly rocky and rooty trails just by manner of "riding light" and picking a good line. As a 230 pounder I wouldn't trust myself to a pair of 28mm tires on anything worse than a grass path or rock-free hardpack dirt. I roll 32mm now (measure almost 31mm on my rim) and I'm pretty confident on packed crushed gravel paths and some rocky dirt roads.
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i currently run 700/23's on my cross bike (road riding for summer, have cross tires for the offroad stuff)... since i am 220# should i be considering a wider tire? or will 23's be ok (run at 100psi).
I use the same size tires ( I think - will have to double check ), am about your weight, and like the inner tubes at around 110 psi. It's worked beautifully for me since I got the bike, in July.
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What sort of roads? I'll be throwing a 35 or 37mm tire on for a 300k in August which promises to have 15 - 20 miles of unpacked gravel mountain service "roads".
I've read of some light riders getting away with low pressure 28mm - 30mm tires on some fairly rocky and rooty trails just by manner of "riding light" and picking a good line. As a 230 pounder I wouldn't trust myself to a pair of 28mm tires on anything worse than a grass path or rock-free hardpack dirt. I roll 32mm now (measure almost 31mm on my rim) and I'm pretty confident on packed crushed gravel paths and some rocky dirt roads.
Roads with potholes up to 3" deep, cracks of all sorts, and all other kinds of bad things. It still sometimes suprises me with a new hole or similar thing every month or so. I can barely ride them with 37's. And those are asphalt roads. Badly serviced asphalt roads. I can ride light, but it wont do any good for my 260 lbs. All that can save me is a wider and heavier tire.
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