Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Results 1 to 24 of 24
  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    612
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    tire width for clyde

    i currently run 700/23's on my cross bike (road riding for summer, have cross tires for the offroad stuff)... since i am 220# should i be considering a wider tire? or will 23's be ok (run at 100psi).

    i purchased the current tires from performance for probably 9 dollars a tire so that I could ride on the trainer over the winter, but for obvious reasons i am concerned about the tires... unfortionately since i was naive when i go them they are wire beads, otherwise i would have turned them into a spare set for carrying on rides...

    i am considering gator skins because i would like to not have to worry about flats very much, and would rather worry about learning to cycle better.

    recommendations on tire width?

  2. #2
    Galveston County Texas 10 Wheels's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    In The Wind
    Posts
    25,050
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I ride 700 X 20's to 700 X 35's.
    Ride what you like.
    [SIZE=1][B]What I like about Texas[/B]
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGukLuXzH1E

    Set F1re To The Ra1n ( NY Night Rain Ride)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7jfcWEkSrI

  3. #3
    SuperGimp TrojanHorse's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Whittier, CA
    My Bikes
    Specialized Roubaix, Merlin Road, Bianchi Campione
    Posts
    7,403
    Mentioned
    27 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    spare tires for a ride? That's a little extreme. Tubes, yes.

    23 is fine.

  4. #4
    Banned. Mr. Beanz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Upland Ca
    My Bikes
    Lemond Chambery/Cannondale R-900/Trek 8000 MTB/Burley Duet tandem
    Posts
    20,031
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    What does naive have to do with riding wire beads? And, you can't fold a wire bead tire soo hardly doubt you'd want to take along on a ride as a spare set.

  5. #5
    Banned. Mr. Beanz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Upland Ca
    My Bikes
    Lemond Chambery/Cannondale R-900/Trek 8000 MTB/Burley Duet tandem
    Posts
    20,031
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
    spare tires for a ride? That's a little extreme. Tubes, yes.

    23 is fine.
    Actually, I know some double century riders that take along a folding tire tucked under their seatpacks. One dude saved me once on a century when my sidewall split 90 miles into a ride!

  6. #6
    SuperGimp TrojanHorse's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Whittier, CA
    My Bikes
    Specialized Roubaix, Merlin Road, Bianchi Campione
    Posts
    7,403
    Mentioned
    27 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I think a double century qualifies as "a little extreme"

  7. #7
    Insane Bicycle Mechanic Jeff Wills's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    other Vancouver
    Posts
    6,636
    Mentioned
    9 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Running 700 x 23's at 100psi with your weight is close to optimal in terms of rolling resistance. Here's some good reading: http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com/images/TireDrop.pdf . If the roads are smooth, 700 x 23's should be fine. If you ride rougher roads (poor pavement or chipseal) then 700 x 25's or 700 x 28's will be more comfortable, have about the same rolling resistance, and weigh only a little bit more.
    Jeff Wills

    All my bikes.

  8. #8
    Gears? CliftonGK1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Philadelphia, PA
    My Bikes
    '08 Surly Cross-Check, 2011 Redline Conquest Pro, 2012 Spesh FSR Comp EVO, 2009 Spesh Singlecross, 2011 RM Flow1
    Posts
    11,316
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Double-C (300k) is a nice way to spend a Saturday. For any ride 100k and up I usually have my spare folding tire in my fix-it kit. It's an over-developed rando sense of self-support. The day you leave something behind is the day you'll need it.

    I ride 23s or 25s on the track, rolled 28s on the road for a while, and I've recently moved up to 32s so I can hit more gravel trails and dirt roads.
    "I feel like my world was classier before I found cyclocross."
    - Mandi M.

  9. #9
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Valley Forge: Birthplace of Freedom
    Posts
    456
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    http://www.rivbike.com/article/components/tires

    An interesting article on tires for general purpose riding.
    Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong. Let all that you do be done in love.

  10. #10
    Senior Member late's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Southern Maine
    Posts
    8,246
    Mentioned
    8 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by stevel610 View Post
    http://www.rivbike.com/article/components/tires

    An interesting article on tires for general purpose riding.
    Common sense? Here? I thought it was banned

    The Rivendell Ruffy Tuffy is a real nice tire, I used it for a few years. If you can find
    the new Vittoria Hyper 28c, I think that would be a great choice.

    I am about to put a pair of 32c Hypers on my bike.

    Btw, Bicycle Quarterly did some rolling resistance tests and the results were surprising.
    The suppleness of the tire made a big difference, more than the size.

    I'd suggest trying 80 psi up front and 90 at the rear for a 28c.
    You don't have to worry about pinch flats. So all you need is to have the tire stay round
    when you sit on it. A little squish is fine.
    Last edited by late; 04-05-10 at 07:34 AM.
    We are as gods, we might as well get good at it.
    Stewart Brand

  11. #11
    Banned. Mr. Beanz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Upland Ca
    My Bikes
    Lemond Chambery/Cannondale R-900/Trek 8000 MTB/Burley Duet tandem
    Posts
    20,031
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    What does naive have to do with riding wire beads?
    I swear, the questions to which I would really like an answer never get answered!

  12. #12
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    612
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Beanz... was merely suggesting the lightweight cheapo tire if it were in a folding tire could be used as a spare... thus eliminating my need to purchase a 3rd tire to carry with as i commute... i cannot be late for work, and will always carry a spare tire/tube once i start commuting full time (18 miles 1 way).

    they are wire beads, otherwise i would have turned them into a spare set for carrying on rides
    as you stated, i cannot fold up a wire bead tire... now when i buy a new set of tires, i will need to buy a 3rd folding tire to carry as a spare... i am a cheapskate

  13. #13
    Banned. Mr. Beanz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Upland Ca
    My Bikes
    Lemond Chambery/Cannondale R-900/Trek 8000 MTB/Burley Duet tandem
    Posts
    20,031
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by adam_mac84 View Post
    Beanz... was merely suggesting the lightweight cheapo tire if it were in a folding tire could be used as a spare... thus eliminating my need to purchase a 3rd tire to carry with as i commute... i cannot be late for work, and will always carry a spare tire/tube once i start commuting full time (18 miles 1 way).



    as you stated, i cannot fold up a wire bead tire... now when i buy a new set of tires, i will need to buy a 3rd folding tire to carry as a spare... i am a cheapskate

    Ahhh, I see. I interpretatedid the statement incorrectly!

  14. #14
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    612
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    i guess i will go with 23 or 25... so far i have 150 miles on the 'cheapo set' (i know they should go much farther without problems), but on the front the bead has come unseated in the front 2x, which scares me (was at 100 psi on 120 psi rated tire).

    rode today at 95 psi, and seemed to be quite nice, but then again, i am a rookie, so it basically all feels the same to me if i am honest

  15. #15
    Senior Member CACycling's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Oxnard, CA
    My Bikes
    '08 Fuji Roubaix RC; '07 Schwinn Le Tour GS; '92 Diamond Back Ascent EX
    Posts
    4,427
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I'm a bit heavier than you. I run 700x28 Forte GT2/k from Preformance on my commuter (1,500 trouble-free miles and they still look fine). I run 700x23 Gatorskins on my road bike and they've been great so far. Got them at Pro Bike Kit. Current price on the 23 or 25 widths is under $30 each for the folding tires including free S+H.

  16. #16
    Banned. Mr. Beanz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Upland Ca
    My Bikes
    Lemond Chambery/Cannondale R-900/Trek 8000 MTB/Burley Duet tandem
    Posts
    20,031
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by adam_mac84 View Post
    i guess i will go with 23 or 25... so far i have 150 miles on the 'cheapo set' (i know they should go much farther without problems), but on the front the bead has come unseated in the front 2x, which scares me (was at 100 psi on 120 psi rated tire).

    rode today at 95 psi, and seemed to be quite nice, but then again, i am a rookie, so it basically all feels the same to me if i am honest
    I been riding 23's for 15 years, at 220-250. Never had tire pop off the rim.

    Not since I realized that one must check the line around the bead of the tire is consistent with the outer cirumference of the rim after installation. I've had buds pop tires off (150 lb rider) cause he didn't seat it correctly.

    I did have one bud destroy a rim when he mounted a cheap $12 tire! The sucker exploded and separated at the seam! I wouldn't use anything that cheap.

  17. #17
    Gears? CliftonGK1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Philadelphia, PA
    My Bikes
    '08 Surly Cross-Check, 2011 Redline Conquest Pro, 2012 Spesh FSR Comp EVO, 2009 Spesh Singlecross, 2011 RM Flow1
    Posts
    11,316
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    I did have one bud destroy a rim when he mounted a cheap $12 tire! The sucker exploded and separated at the seam! I wouldn't use anything that cheap.
    That can happen for any price. I had a Gatorskin rip through at the bead not 24 hours after installation. Sounded like somebody got shot in my spare room when that tire blew out! Brought it in to the LBS and they gave me a waranty replacement on it; said there's no way it was anything but manufacturing defect.
    "I feel like my world was classier before I found cyclocross."
    - Mandi M.

  18. #18
    Degenerate Grouch xray1978's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Lawrence
    My Bikes
    Kona Hahanna, Schwinn Speedster
    Posts
    212
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by adam_mac84 View Post
    Beanz... was merely suggesting the lightweight cheapo tire if it were in a folding tire could be used as a spare... thus eliminating my need to purchase a 3rd tire to carry with as i commute... i cannot be late for work, and will always carry a spare tire/tube once i start commuting full time (18 miles 1 way).



    as you stated, i cannot fold up a wire bead tire... now when i buy a new set of tires, i will need to buy a 3rd folding tire to carry as a spare... i am a cheapskate
    Actually Mr. brown shows how to make a wire bead tire portable. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsVrCAJMr_Y

  19. #19
    Banned. Mr. Beanz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Upland Ca
    My Bikes
    Lemond Chambery/Cannondale R-900/Trek 8000 MTB/Burley Duet tandem
    Posts
    20,031
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by CliftonGK1 View Post
    That can happen for any price. I had a Gatorskin rip through at the bead not 24 hours after installation. Sounded like somebody got shot in my spare room when that tire blew out! Brought it in to the LBS and they gave me a waranty replacement on it; said there's no way it was anything but manufacturing defect.
    My bud's RIM exploded at the seam, not just the tire!

  20. #20
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    415
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I run 37-622 and I consider that rather skinny. Minding the roads I have here. So everyone's definition of adequate is different. I could not imagine going any narrower due to the roads, but some local riders around here claim that they can actually ride 25's here. I don't believe them one word
    Eh, btw, you don't happen to have a picture of that rim, do you?

  21. #21
    Gears? CliftonGK1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Philadelphia, PA
    My Bikes
    '08 Surly Cross-Check, 2011 Redline Conquest Pro, 2012 Spesh FSR Comp EVO, 2009 Spesh Singlecross, 2011 RM Flow1
    Posts
    11,316
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    My bud's RIM exploded at the seam, not just the tire!
    Holy carps! I've worn some rims pretty thin at the braking surface and still never had one rip through.
    "I feel like my world was classier before I found cyclocross."
    - Mandi M.

  22. #22
    Gears? CliftonGK1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Philadelphia, PA
    My Bikes
    '08 Surly Cross-Check, 2011 Redline Conquest Pro, 2012 Spesh FSR Comp EVO, 2009 Spesh Singlecross, 2011 RM Flow1
    Posts
    11,316
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by whitecat View Post
    I run 37-622 and I consider that rather skinny. Minding the roads I have here. So everyone's definition of adequate is different. I could not imagine going any narrower due to the roads, but some local riders around here claim that they can actually ride 25's here. I don't believe them one word
    Eh, btw, you don't happen to have a picture of that rim, do you?
    What sort of roads? I'll be throwing a 35 or 37mm tire on for a 300k in August which promises to have 15 - 20 miles of unpacked gravel mountain service "roads".
    I've read of some light riders getting away with low pressure 28mm - 30mm tires on some fairly rocky and rooty trails just by manner of "riding light" and picking a good line. As a 230 pounder I wouldn't trust myself to a pair of 28mm tires on anything worse than a grass path or rock-free hardpack dirt. I roll 32mm now (measure almost 31mm on my rim) and I'm pretty confident on packed crushed gravel paths and some rocky dirt roads.
    "I feel like my world was classier before I found cyclocross."
    - Mandi M.

  23. #23
    Senior Member Seattle Forrest's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Seattle, WA
    Posts
    9,865
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by adam_mac84 View Post
    i currently run 700/23's on my cross bike (road riding for summer, have cross tires for the offroad stuff)... since i am 220# should i be considering a wider tire? or will 23's be ok (run at 100psi).
    I use the same size tires ( I think - will have to double check ), am about your weight, and like the inner tubes at around 110 psi. It's worked beautifully for me since I got the bike, in July.

  24. #24
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    415
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by CliftonGK1 View Post
    What sort of roads? I'll be throwing a 35 or 37mm tire on for a 300k in August which promises to have 15 - 20 miles of unpacked gravel mountain service "roads".
    I've read of some light riders getting away with low pressure 28mm - 30mm tires on some fairly rocky and rooty trails just by manner of "riding light" and picking a good line. As a 230 pounder I wouldn't trust myself to a pair of 28mm tires on anything worse than a grass path or rock-free hardpack dirt. I roll 32mm now (measure almost 31mm on my rim) and I'm pretty confident on packed crushed gravel paths and some rocky dirt roads.
    Roads with potholes up to 3" deep, cracks of all sorts, and all other kinds of bad things. It still sometimes suprises me with a new hole or similar thing every month or so. I can barely ride them with 37's. And those are asphalt roads. Badly serviced asphalt roads. I can ride light, but it wont do any good for my 260 lbs. All that can save me is a wider and heavier tire.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •